In Keaton related developments it's looking more likely Tim Burton will direct another Beetlejuice. I'd love a sequel to this. It's a chance for Keaton to re-emerge as the star he deserves to be and in a character he's defined as much as Batman. Plus to have Burton return to his earliest film routes is highly appropriate. I've been somewhat disappointed by his output in recent years. I guess everybody has a period when you fire on all cylinders creatively but it would be nice if Burton could capture that early magic again.
So far no word on the possibilty of any other returning faces. So who would we love to see back? Sadly we have to rule out the wonderful Glenn Shadix who played Otho. He passed away a few years back. It seems far too tragic he won't be involved as there were lots of possibilties with his character (who only really meets Beetlejuice briefly in the finale of the first film).
I really think they need to convince Winona Ryder to come back as Lydia. Besides the fact it was this character that ushered in my crush on her as a kid, the character became a major part of the universe (thanks in part to her "sidekick" role in the Beetlejuice cartoon series). It'd be great to see where that character is now and even if she's hung around still with Beetlejuice all this time. With Burton seemingly back it may be possible to persuade Ryder than a new director doing the job. Recently she worked with him on Frankenweenie which also featured her on screen stepmum Catherine O' Hara I believe. Perhaps Burton suggested the sequel to them there? Either way we simply MUST have the return of the Dietz family! Introducing a new family won't do. Their great characters I want to see more of as much as the ghost with the most. On the other hand what about Jeffery Jones? Great comic actor but his personal life has become less than savory since 1988. Would we now be comfortable seeing him again and would he perhaps alienate the return of any other returning faces? I loved the Charles character but given what Jones did in his private life I'm not sure he'd be so forgiven. Great shame.
The Maitlands were always controversial critically. Described as the most boring characters in the movie. But for me they were actually the leading characters. However I doubt we'll see them. Alec Baldwin seemed less than enthused by the final movie and of Tim Burton. The cartoon series further established there no longer around anyway. I'd like them back personally but these could defintely be a no no.
One idea I loved from the animated series was Beetlejuice's parents (and his utter disgust for them). I'd love to see them put on screen and to look just as their animated counterparts did.
I guess it's kind of cool that Winona Ryder and Alec Baldwin are still fairly popular to this day. Geena Davis hasn't acted much recently but I'm sure she could be back. Though I'd question what would be next for all those characters? The two families seemed to be happy with their lives (or after-lives).
Not that Tim Burton is ever predictable but I think how I'd do it is have Lydia need to reluctantly call on help from the afterlife; maybe a death in the family (possibly even her own) or have her being haunted.
If they don't get the main characters back, the alternative could be an entirely new story with Beetlejuice such as a new family. Or a prequel could be interesting.
To be frank, as a longtime fan, Big Eyes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126590/) is the Burton project I'm more anxious about. It's maybe a make or break situation for a director who has fallen from grace.
That said, a nostalgia trip like Beetlejuice II would be lovely, agreed. If Big Eyes is much better received than his latest movies and Burton regains some respect, I'm all for a Burton and Keaton reunion.
I was a huge fan of the Beetlejuice cartoon show and toys when I was very little. But I've always thought the film was a bit overrated. I like it on a visual level, and I thought Catherine O'Hara and Glenn Shadix gave entertaining performances. But as a comedy, I just never found it very funny. Especially when you compare it to something like Ghostbusters, or even other Burton movies like Pee-Wee's Big Adventure and Ed Wood. So the prospect of a sequel doesn't hold much appeal for me. I'd love to see Burton work with Keaton again, but I'd prefer they collaborated on something original. Maybe something in a genre that's new to both of them. A war film or a suspense thriller. Something like that.
Quote from: SilentEnigma on Thu, 24 Oct 2013, 16:20
To be frank, as a longtime fan, Big Eyes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126590/) is the Burton project I'm more anxious about. It's maybe a make or break situation for a director who has fallen from grace.
Well said. I feel exactly the same. The Keane biopic is a chance for Burton to be taken seriously again as a filmmaker. His past collaboration with this writing team was, in my opinion, his finest film to date. So Big Eyes is the first Burton film I've really looked forward to since the 90s. Let's hope it's as good as we all hope and that he follows it up with some equally intriguing projects.
Quote from: SilentEnigma on Thu, 24 Oct 2013, 16:20
To be frank, as a longtime fan, Big Eyes (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1126590/) is the Burton project I'm more anxious about. It's maybe a make or break situation for a director who has fallen from grace.
Not to be rude, but - did everyone just forget about the reception he got for
Sweeney Todd, his MoMA show, or even
Frankenweenie?
But I can't say I'm rooting for the negotiations to go well. One of the big appeals of
Beetlejuice is that it follows no formula and has a rather gonzo spirit. A sequel, by its nature, is hard-pressed to have the same atmosphere.
While a Batman sequel is one I'd want to have consistancy with the first film, Beetlejuice isn't the same for me.
The only thing I want to return is Keaton as BJ. Everything else I want gone, which is different than most people, I assume. A cameo by Lydia is cool, but if he's bothering the Maitlands/Deetzs again, it's going to be little different to the first film. I'd see no point. And I suspect Burton feels the same way. I want BJ to be caught up in something completely different. He was the villain of the first film, and I'd dislike it if they went the style of the animated series and tried to make him more likeable/friendly because he's the star. But at the same time, if he's pestering the same people, it's odd because why wouldn't he have given up on them? BJ seemed like a journeyman type anyway... he'd just let the Maitlands/Deetzs lie and move on.
My idea with my close friend is that BJ should be facing a rival bio-exorcist that's twice as goofy as himself, and all kinds of hijinks should ensue. I quite liked the idea of him being on vacation and being caught up in a fight with this rival. My friend and I feel so strongly about our ideas, we toyed with the idea of writing our film and shopping the script to WB. Seriously.
Sounds like it may not be happening after all:
QuoteAsked if he knows anything about [Beetlejuice 2], Keaton says, "No. Zero. You always hear things, that this is happening, and people seem to know more about it than I do."
While he loves the character, he says, "it's possible that ship has sailed."
"The only way to do it is to do it right," he says. "So much of it was improvised and so much was beautifully handmade by the artist that is Tim Burton. If you can't get close to that, you leave it alone."
He references remakes of other classic movies, noting, "There are certain movies that are like Indian burial grounds. You never ride over them. Bad s— happens if you cross that. You don't touch certain things. They are sacred."
http://variety.com/2016/film/news/beetlejuice-sequel-has-to-be-done-right-michael-keaton-says-1201824781/
I hope someone at Sony is reading this. I'm looking at you, Feig. >:(
comicbook.com:
QuoteIt looks like it's officially showtime for the long-awaited Beetlejuice sequel. On Monday, new reporting from The Ankler's Hollywood Transom newsletter revealed that Plan B Entertainment, inc. — the award-winning production company associated with actor Brad Pitt — is lined up to produce Beetlejuice 2. Both Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder are expected to reprise their roles as Beetlejuice and Lydia Deetz, respectively. The project could reportedly film as early as summer 2022. Plan B has produced a number of key films over the years, including Oscar winners Moonlight, The Departed, and 12 Years a Slave.
Cautiously curious.
Well, if Winona Ryder is returning, you really have to wonder how the dynamic between Beetlejuice and Lydia is going to play out this time around?
Will it continue the narrative of the original movie where Beetlejuice creepily/aggressively pursues Lydia again (only now she's not underage), or something like the cartoon where they are pals who go on adventures? Honestly, it's hilarious that such a movie got a cartoon in the first place. Course, the Toxic Avenger got a cartoon in the early '90's as well, and if you watched that movie ... wow.
In any event, here's a pretty good vid going over "Beetlejuice II" being in developmental hell for decades.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVYCccAp324&t=30s
I think it might actually be happening. I think that report from early this year might have been right.
https://thedirect.com/article/beetlejuice-2-catherine-ohara
Am I the only one just waiting for Keaton to get cast in this thing... and then subsequently replaced in reshoots?
In all seriousness, I find I'm not opposed to a new Beetlejuice. I like the first one okay. But it's not sacred to me or anything. Personally, I can afford a bad Beetlejuice sequel. But if it turns out great, that works too.
Interesting that Catherine O'Hara is returning as Delia Deetz. I wasn't expecting that; as I figured the elder Deetz's probably wouldn't be included at this point in a sequel.
Makes me wonder how the Charles Deetz character will be addressed? Recast (can't imagine Jeffrey Jones is going to be asked back)? Happily divorced from Delia? Passed on?
I assume with Delia returning, there will be some sort of reference to Otho. Those two came across as joined at the hip at times in the original Beetlejuice. Especially in terms of seeking approval and validation.
This rumor has been picking up steam:
QuoteSink will be playing the daughter of Lydia Deetz, whom Winona Ryder portrayed in the original film.
Nobody wanted to believe it at first as the news originated on Giant Freakin' Robot, but more scoopers have someou5t this month and said that yes, she is in talks and Winona Ryder made it happen.
I've never watched "Stranger Things", so I am largely unfamiliar with Sadie Sink. The overall likelihood of the sequel taking place in 'Winter River, Connecticut' like in the original seems pretty dim. Cause that would just raise too many questions on what's happening with the Maitlands. Still interested in seeing just how much influence the early '90's toon is, or is not, going to have on the sequel. Especially in terms of Beetlejuice being portrayed as more of a comedic guardian ghost with Lydia and her daughter, opposing a more sinister spectre (not quite the best buds deal that was going on with Beetlejuice/Lydia in the toon but similar), or very much remaining a antagonist ghost that plots a revenge scheme against Lydia, with her daughter being a more naive target in doing so ....
Totally on board!
This link has two major things to say
1. Jenny Ortega of Wednesday is closing a deal on BJ 2.
2. More importantly a budget is trying to get set because the production is eyeing MAY OF THIS YEAR for the shoot.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jenna-ortega-beetlejuice-2-1235342774/ (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/jenna-ortega-beetlejuice-2-1235342774/)
As a big fan of Beetlejuice, I don't want it. The first Beetlejuice was lightning in a bottle. If someone made a sequel it would just be cashing in on the name. There is no filmmaker today that's like 80's Tim Burton. Beetlejuice is a weird script that was mostly improvised on the fly and still worked. You can't replicate something like that. I mean look at Ghostbusters. They've tried to reboot multiple times now and none of the attempts even come close to the first film. Sometimes movies are made in the right place at the right time.
Quote from: BatmanFurst on Fri, 10 Mar 2023, 06:01
As a big fan of Beetlejuice, I don't want it. The first Beetlejuice was lightning in a bottle. If someone made a sequel it would just be cashing in on the name. There is no filmmaker today that's like 80's Tim Burton. Beetlejuice is a weird script that was mostly improvised on the fly and still worked. You can't replicate something like that. I mean look at Ghostbusters. They've tried to reboot multiple times now and none of the attempts even come close to the first film. Sometimes movies are made in the right place at the right time.
I like it but I'm not a devout fan of the first movie. I would like to see Keaton back for this, and I'm intrigued to see how Burton would fare. However I do agree with your sentiment. Ghostbusters Afterlife was competely underwhelming and forgettable. I can't consider that the official third film regardless of what canon says. As much as I maintain The Matrix Resurrections' approach is on better ground compared to other nostalgia revivals, I also kinda wish it wasn't made. If they're going to do another Beetlejuice, swing for the fences and make it worth our time.
Okay, here's a a little conjecture on my part:
Budget and stars are connected. To settle the budget you have to know who's in the movie IE the studio approves the money you can spend based on who's in it. In other words it all currently rests on Ortega. Her final price will likely be determined by how well Scream 6 does. If she signs on as the star it will cause a chain reaction. The budget will be set, the schedule finalized, and then look for an announcement. If it goes smoothly, I'd would expect an official press release from WB by the end of April.
My guess is that the film will release October 2024. If it is a smooth ride. I think it will be.
I'd say that's a astute observation, and I agree. Being that Jenna Ortega is basically a hollywood "it" girl these days, her inclusion would, theoretically, cause the spark that finally gets the ball rolling on the sequel, rather than all the hemming and hawing we've seen for decades now with this proposed sequel.
Ortega as Lydia Deetz's daughter is pretty good casting I think. So hopefully that pans out. Both Jenna and Winona are rather tiny, and both have had previous successful collaborations with Burton himself. Which brings a interesting subtext to such a project like this where they would be playing mother and daughter.
A new rumor suggests that...wait for it...Jean-Claude Van Damme is being eyed for a role in BJ 2.
Haha!
Well, that'll be a way to get me even MORE interested in this project! ;D
(Not an April Fool) It has been quiet on this front, but apparently, there are whispers that Ortega has dropped out of some other project and cleared her schedule for BJ 2. She is expected to start shooting in May.
It's showtime! ;)
This next tidbit comes not from any major report but from a smaller twitter user who recently visited the original films shooting location (with nice photos to back it up) in East Corinth, Vermont. Apparently a 'little bird' told her that the Beetlejuice 2 production is expected 'soon'. The Hollywood Reporter article claimed that shooting would take place primarily in London, but we may be (exteriors or a short visit) seeing more of Winter River.
Tim Burton spoke at a 'Master Class' session in Malaysia where he mentioned that he's filming Beetlejuice 2 very soon.
A source in the UK claims these are photos of set construction for BJ 2.
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Mad Monster is responsible for these claims. Link: https://madmonster.com/2023/04/22/beetlejuice-2-finally-in-production/
Beetlejuice 2 was confirmed as 'in development' at Cinemacon. I hoped for something firmer than that.
Well, babes...
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The article below is about the writer's strike and how it will impact upcoming films. It is a good and worthwhile read, but apparently Beetlejuice 2 will be one of the least affected films as the production start date for the film is June 9th. The script is locked and they are rolling.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/writers-strike-movie-production-impact-delays-gladiator-2-bad-boys-4-1235341085/
There is rumor flying around that the Wednesday (and Spider-man 2!!!) guys, Alfred Gough and Miles Millar are the guys that wrote it. Anyway all WGA work is expected to continue until contract expiration on June 30th, also the film is in the UK and they have work arounds.
It's not a rumor anymore. Miles Millar confirms it on today's episode of Talk Ville. They don't go into it super deep but Millar does confirm that it's true.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLdMgG0O7S4
Just skip ahead to closer to the end when Gough and Millar show up. Millar confirms it just before he and Gough exit.
Dan the Man is official. I wooped aloud at work.
https://deadline.com/2023/05/beetlejuice-2-danny-elfman-on-sequel-wednesday-score-in-concert-1235355363/
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Tue, 25 Apr 2023, 18:11
Beetlejuice 2 was confirmed as 'in development' at Cinemacon. I hoped for something firmer than that.
I'm happy to hear this for what it means to Keaton and his resurgence. His return to Batman appears to be a success, and hopefully Beetlejuice II can consolidate that. Burton, Keaton and Elfman together in the same movie has to excite the true believers to some degree even after all these years.
Nothing but good news so far. Glad to read Elfman is returning alongside Burton being confirmed! 8)
OFFICIAL!
https://deadline.com/2023/05/beetlejuice-2-theatrical-release-date-1235360977/
DEADLINE:
'BEETLEJUICE 2', starring Michael Keaton, Winona Ryder, and Jenna Ortega, releases on September 6, 2024.
Jenna Ortega will officially star in 'BEETLEJUICE 2' as the daughter of Winona Ryder's Lydia Deetz.
Justin Theroux has been cast in 'BEETLEJUICE 2'.
Another interesting note is that Seth Grahame-Smith is expected to be one of the producers. He was the guy who did Dark Shadows and approached Burton about writing it.
Sounds good! 8)
A rumor swirling around is that Willem Dafoe is playing a Ghost police officer.
8)
I hope the filmmakers will use stop-motion animation instead of CGI.
Catherine O'Hara has been confirmed.
Monica Bellucci has been cast as Beetlejuice's wife.
Willem Dafoe is official.
Also worth noting is that production began 2 days ago.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Thu, 11 May 2023, 19:11
Catherine O'Hara has been confirmed.
Monica Bellucci has been cast as Beetlejuice's wife.
Willem Dafoe is official.
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This is shaping up to be a heck of a
stacked cast that's been announced so far (and I am not just insinuating Monica Bellucci there)!
I haven't been keeping up with this, at all. I had no idea both Burton and Keaton were back.
Very exciting times for us Keaton fans. 8)
Spy shots from the set as filming is in progress. Lydia's gothness was not a phase, I see.
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What do we think about that? Should Lydia have "grown up"? Or was she always staying in the goth world?
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu, 18 May 2023, 20:09
What do we think about that? Should Lydia have "grown up"? Or was she always staying in the goth world?
I'm fine with the gothness, but it feels like she's frozen. Goths do change their hairstyle now and again. She doesn't feel like an 'adult' goth. She looks like she's worn the same clothes for 35 years. Still very 'teen.' We'll see. I won't deny that I was super excited to see the picture.
Evidently, Lydia's life has remained, "One ... big ... dark ... room."
Some people having a "goth" phase in their life, and then eventually getting out of it, would be conventional. However, Lydia was already illustrated in the original "Beetlejuice" as being 'in tuned' with the afterlife by being able to see and react with the Maitland's when seemingly no one else could. Throw in that the realm beyond the living was on full display to her (in addition to being unsought after pursued by an antagonistic ghost) at such a young age, and yeah, Lydia's wardrobe remaining the same or stunted would be fully understandable.
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 20 May 2023, 00:37
Evidently, Lydia's life has remained, "One ... big ... dark ... room."
Some people having a "goth" phase in their life, and then eventually getting out of it, would be conventional. However, Lydia was already illustrated in the original "Beetlejuice" as being 'in tuned' with the afterlife by being able to see and react with the Maitland's when seemingly no one else could. Throw in that the realm beyond the living was on full display to her (in addition to being unsought after pursued by an antagonistic ghost) at such a young age, and yeah, Lydia's wardrobe remaining the same or stunted would be fully understandable.
I like your take on that.
Evidently, a part of Shoredich was shut down for a week, and posters of Catherine O'Hara were seen. Looks like Delia is doing some self promotion for something. Also, (it might be a misunderstanding) some people are claiming that Johnny Depp has been seen.
I'd be surprised if he was, didn't Burton and Depp have a falling out over Helena Bonham Carter? Depp hasn't worked with him since Dark Shadows, if I recall correctly.
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 22 May 2023, 17:22
I'd be surprised if he was, didn't Burton and Depp have a falling out over Helena Bonham Carter? Depp hasn't worked with him since Dark Shadows, if I recall correctly.
Did Depp and Carter date or something? Must have missed that.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 22 May 2023, 23:04
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 22 May 2023, 17:22
I'd be surprised if he was, didn't Burton and Depp have a falling out over Helena Bonham Carter? Depp hasn't worked with him since Dark Shadows, if I recall correctly.
Did Depp and Carter date or something? Must have missed that.
No, they were close friends and Burton dumping her made Depp angry, I believe.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Mon, 22 May 2023, 16:37
I like your take on that.
Evidently, a part of Shoredich was shut down for a week, and posters of Catherine O'Hara were seen. Looks like Delia is doing some self promotion for something. Also, (it might be a misunderstanding) some people are claiming that Johnny Depp has been seen.
Huh.
I wonder if she found herself a new hobby, and subsequently found success? Or did her sculpting(s) of Beetlejuice (which captured his likeness pretty well considering her prior quirky/abstract sculpturing that apparently no one that mattered liked) bring her a following of some notoriety?
Can't really speak on Depp. If he actually
does have a part in this, perhaps Burton gave Depp a call of support during the whole Amber Heard-Turd divorce trial and they patched things up?
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During the Flash Q and A, Keaton spoke about BJ 2. Apparently he and Burton are having a lot of fun. Also, practical effects are being heavily used. The Waiting Room is back.
Sets are being built in Vermont in the original town that stood in for Winter River. We're returning to the Maitland house.
Just to confirm East Corinth is indeed hosting BJ 2. I'll upload photos when I can, but they are currently building the Maitland house on the same hill.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 13:41
During the Flash Q and A, Keaton spoke about BJ 2. Apparently he and Burton are having a lot of fun. Also, practical effects are being heavily used. The Waiting Room is back.
I wonder if that's how the film opens up. With Beetlejuice's waiting number finally being called? ;D
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Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 19:25
Sets are being built in Vermont in the original town that stood in for Winter River. We're returning to the Maitland house.
That's interesting. Curious to see how the Maitland's absence is fully addressed? Right now, I'm leaning more into the idea that Beetlejuice will be more of a protagonist for the sequel (as he also was in the animated series). With Lydia very reluctantly summoning him from the Neitherworld out of desperation against a
probably living antagonist who exorcising ghosts. Which, in the grand scheme of things, would give Beetlejuice the opportunity to prove his "Living Buster" claims of 'getting rid of the living' fully...
Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 20:19
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 13:41
During the Flash Q and A, Keaton spoke about BJ 2. Apparently he and Burton are having a lot of fun. Also, practical effects are being heavily used. The Waiting Room is back.
I wonder if that's how the film opens up. With Beetlejuice's waiting number finally being called? ;D
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Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 19:25
Sets are being built in Vermont in the original town that stood in for Winter River. We're returning to the Maitland house.
That's interesting. Curious to see how the Maitland's absence is fully addressed? Right now, I'm leaning more into the idea that Beetlejuice will be more of a protagonist for the sequel (as he also was in the animated series). With Lydia very reluctantly summoning him from the Neitherworld out of desperation against a probably living antagonist who exorcising ghosts. Which, in the grand scheme of things, would give Beetlejuice the opportunity to prove his "Living Buster" claims of 'getting rid of the living' fully...
I've always suspected that would be a gag they couldn't pass up. He finally gets his day in court.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 23:44
I've always suspected that would be a gag they couldn't pass up. He finally gets his day in court.
The waiting room would be the perfectly logical way to start a sequel. It provides a seamless continuation.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Sun, 4 Jun 2023, 23:44
I've always suspected that would be a gag they couldn't pass up. He finally gets his day in court.
The closest we have seen of this, was when Beetlejuice performed his own unique "test of strength" on Maxie Dean and his wife, but it's inconclusive if they actually died, or were just left with, at the very least, splitting headaches.
I wouldn't be surprised if the
living antagonist is related, or was an associate with Otho in the past. Being that Otho, prior to the events in '88, had been a paranormal researcher, I'm sure his interest in the field would have definitely increased following his access to the "Deceased" book, and run in with Beetlejuice. They could also play with the notion of Delia (with her being successful now with her sculpturing) eventually considered Otho a 'hanger on' at some point, and severed ties with him. Leaving him financially stressed, and perhaps even passing away as a consequence. But not before providing his knowledge to a relative/associate/protege that proves to be more proficient and adept with the paranormal, and exorcisms (and can also change a tire if need be). Perhaps, kicking the plot off by paying a visit to the Maitland's house and performing an exorcism out of nothing but pure spite.
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Filming, likely just for exteriors begins later this summer. Above you can see the Maitland house going up. It is now a virtual guarantee that one way or another we will learn the late of Adam and Barbara. I'll bet they were moved on to the other side early for good behavior OR....
if they do appear it will be late in the film, maybe the final act. I'm thinking maybe ala Dr Sleep where we must finally go back to the Overlook to exercise one last demon Maybe the Maitlands are taken hostage and are aged to death again, which would allow them to just be their age as they slowly transition. I'm suspecting at least cameos.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Mon, 5 Jun 2023, 14:31
It is now a virtual guarantee that one way or another we will learn the late of Adam and Barbara. I'll bet they were moved on to the other side early for good behavior OR....
if they do appear it will be late in the film, maybe the final act. I'm thinking maybe ala Dr Sleep where we must finally go back to the Overlook to exercise one last demon Maybe the Maitlands are taken hostage and are aged to death again, which would allow them to just be their age as they slowly transition. I'm suspecting at least cameos.
I kinda think if the Maitlands appear at all, it would be very brief. Perhaps something like Lydia and her daughter saving the day, but the ultimate fate of the Maitlands being ambiguous at best. Lydia, along with her daughter, are now at this point in the process of departing from the Maitland property where Lydia decides to take one final look at the house, only to see, and as a call back to the original, the Maitlands in the attic window waiving at her as a farewell. Giving Lydia both relief and closure. Burton could also incorporate a shot from behind the Maitlands using stand ins as they approach the window to wave at Lydia, just to further indicate to the viewer that what she's seeing isn't just wishful thinking.
Quote from: The Joker on Tue, 6 Jun 2023, 13:12
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Mon, 5 Jun 2023, 14:31
It is now a virtual guarantee that one way or another we will learn the late of Adam and Barbara. I'll bet they were moved on to the other side early for good behavior OR....
if they do appear it will be late in the film, maybe the final act. I'm thinking maybe ala Dr Sleep where we must finally go back to the Overlook to exercise one last demon Maybe the Maitlands are taken hostage and are aged to death again, which would allow them to just be their age as they slowly transition. I'm suspecting at least cameos.
I kinda think if the Maitlands appear at all, it would be very brief. Perhaps something like Lydia and her daughter saving the day, but the ultimate fate of the Maitlands being ambiguous at best. Lydia, along with her daughter, are now at this point in the process of departing from the Maitland property where Lydia decides to take one final look at the house, only to see, and as a call back to the original, the Maitlands in the attic window waiving at her as a farewell. Giving Lydia both relief and closure. Burton could also incorporate a shot from behind the Maitlands using stand ins as they approach the window to wave at Lydia, just to further indicate to the viewer that what she's seeing isn't just wishful thinking.
Stop having good ideas and setting my expectations!
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Tue, 6 Jun 2023, 20:10
Stop having good ideas and setting my expectations!
;D :D
What would you say is the probability of Jenna Ortega, miming Lydia to Harry Belafonte's "Jump In The Line (Shake Senora)", right before the end credits hit?
I'm thinking that's a very likely way the film ends with a high note. Though, at this moment, I doubt we'll see the football players once again doing a dancing jig to the song along with Jenna, but rather Beetlejuice himself, especially if they go the route of being to a degree influenced by the Beetlejuice animated series (ala similar to how "The Real Ghostbusters" cartoon impressed upon "Ghostbusters 2"), and possibly even his wife (depending on just how Monica Bellucci is presented of course)? She's a wild card to me right now.
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First photo 'Maitland House'
Second Photo 'The Hardware Store'. Maitland Hardware is back.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Thu, 8 Jun 2023, 17:46
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First photo 'Maitland House'
Second Photo 'The Hardware Store'. Maitland Hardware is back.
Hope there is a gag where we see the old barber still sitting there talking, but as a ghost
More construction photos. Although not featured here the bridge is going back up too.
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Here's a recent video of the exteriors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya9mziF_Xew
Maitland House is about done.
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The bridge is progressing.
https://youtube.com/shorts/g5YUqpAnB7g?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzl01uQloIU
More video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4T2OYzDE-O8&t=17s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KiA8C3Rl0b4
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The set photos of Lydia's daughter getting hitched are interesting to say the least.
Jane is still around. File attached.
This is from Massachusetts where some filming will also take place.
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Maitland Hardware is now a coffee shop.
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Filming in East Corinth.
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Delia in the house. Looks funereal at Maitland House.
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Although it didn't release with much fanfare, an actual honest to God readable 'Handbook for the Recently Deceased' is now available in multiple formats including kindle. It is literally over 250 pages long and never 'breaks' character. It covers everything heard about it in the film and more. Whether or not it forecasts anything in the second film interests me as there is a tremendous amount of detail and introductions of new concepts like dream visitations and nonlinear time. It is a dry read, with a few much appreciated laughs, as it never wavers from 'reading like stereo' instructions. Anyway just a heads up for super fans.
More notes on the handbook.
The afterlife as a AAA program. Afterlife Assistance Agency. Agents (Dafoe?)can extricate you from a bad situations if you cannot draw a door. It costs you a help voucher, which of course, are limited. Officers of the afterlife are referenced strongly as being able to take action when you break rules also. There are 10 rules in regards to the living and the dead.
Time and how it affects/doesn't the afterlife is a concern that comes up again and again. It seems to indicate that the receptionist of the afterlife may be different and that once again some kind of nonlinear time is in play.
Notes continued.
There is a huge section on the role of your case worker, how to contact them, and their role. They both act as guide, advocate(!!), and authority in disciplinary matters (!!) Also:
They can help you facilitate and start the paper work on wait for it...reincarnation and transmigration!!! So that's a thing.
Whelp, looks like I got a new book to put on the 'shopping cart' list now.
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 20 Jul 2023, 00:58Whelp, looks like I got a new book to put on the 'shopping cart' list now.
Highly recommended to fans. Just wait until you get to the BioExorcist chapters and it describes what they actually are. Even though it confirmed my suspicions it made my blood chill.
Also dream visiting comes up again and again. Contacting loved ones, the risks, etc.
Tim Burton was interviewed the other day. There were only two days of shooting left when the strike went into effect so no one is panicking.
big spoilers ahead. Below is a (leaked?) first look at BJ himself.
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BJ photo attached to this post now.
Spoilers:
Willem Dafoe stars as Wolf Jackson in 'BEETLEJUICE 2'
He's an actor who starred in a 70s cop franchise. Now serving as the Afterlife police chief to relive his glory days.
Jenna Ortega stars as Astrid in 'BEETLEJUICE 2'
She's 16, attends a boarding school, and hates her mom's (Lydia) supernatural show.
Justin Theroux stars as Rory in 'BEETLEJUICE 2'
Rory is Lydia's manager/fiance who hopes to tie the knot on Halloween.
Interesting photo ....
Lydia having a "Supernatural Show", could suggest that she, at some level, is able to harness a supernatural song/dance routine that the Maitlands granted her at the end of the first film thanks to her approved school grades.
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The first official poster has released. The film is officially titled 'BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE'
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Quote from: Gotham Knight on Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 19:09The film is officially titled 'BEETLEJUICE BEETLEJUICE'
That's actually a pretty smart title. It could also indicate that the studio isn't planning to milk the franchise beyond three films. Not unless they make a Beetlejuice 4, aka Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice Beetlejuice.
I've renamed the thread.
If Beetlejuice sequels actually get put out in quick succession where it gets up to #4 ... they may as well go with "Beetlejuice Goes Hawaiian" at that point with some revised/rewritten script. ;D
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Looks good.
Keaton's transformation into the Juice is next level. It's like a whole other person, voice and all. It's up there with all the other highly praised method acting performances such as Heath Ledger.
Batman and Beetlejuice. Two iconic roles at opposite ends of the spectrum.
Now that's a teaser!
I'm not too proud to say that I got goosebumps seeing Beetlejuice reacquaint himself to Lydia (along with the subsequent OMG face)! With the original being one of my favorite movies with Keats, I'm very much looking forward to this one.
Its nice to see it seems like WB gave Burton the room to do what he wanted and I think that's reflected in this feeling like a reason to exist rather than an IP refresh.