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Mmmmm, nice, but far too dear!

That was great! Good to see Elfmans band too, never seen or heard any of their stuff before.

Elfman is a great composer.

Just want to say well done to Ral for getting the Dave Lea interview!! Very interesting and enjoyable.

Thanks mate.

love your pic Ral, of Christmas Vacation. I just bought that today on DVD lol

What a great interview - Alex Zane was really geniunely excited to speak to Mr Keaton, calling him the best Bruce Wayne to date and citing Batman Returns as his fav between Keaton's 2 movies.  Alex kept the whole thing fun and allowed Michael to be a real goof ball for 20 minutes.

I won't transcribe the whole thing here but i will highlight the main things said about Batman.

MK's favourite is Batman 89 and he hasn't yet seen either of Chris Nolan's Bat-flicks (he is saving them so he can sit down and really get into them).

Interesting Ral, good to know me and him have something in common, our favourite Bat-flick lol. Hopefully I can catch this some time.

I agree with a lot of what you guys have all said. And I also agree, and have said before that in the context of story telling, and the fact Batman was made not with a sequel in mind, making Jack Napier the killer of the Waynes makes that movie more rounded. It has a start middle and an end. It also gives us a reason why the Joker is Batmans arch-enemy, and yes I also like the fact they made each other. They are both born out of eachothers worst nightmares.

jonnygobbs made the point that some fans think the fact Batman caught up with his parents killer and stopped him means that he wouldnt want to be Batman no more. Nonsense - why would he? In otherwords he was only Batman to avenge his parents death? I thought he was Batman to stop crime, and to stop what happened to him happening to others. In that case, wasnt Joe Chill caught and charged? In some versions he was killed wasnt he?
So thats the same arguement in my opinion. He didnt need to become Batman if Chill was caught or killed. Why didn't he just join the police? I have to say this is the problem I have with Batman Begins.

Easy, the chinese guy in this scene also features at the start Batman Begins when Bruce fights other inmates in the prison.

He was a nameless thief who was never caught.

What?  Not Jack Napier/ The Joker?   

Not Joe Chill either. And didnt Bob Kane, the creator of Batman by the way, say that if the Joker had of been created at the time of 1939, and Batmans first origin story appearance that he would have had the Joker as the murderer of Bruce's parents. If that doesnt carry no wieght then what does? Batmans creator endorsing it! You cant get much better than that. And dont be saying he only said it because of the 89 film, or Burton wanted it. Because someone like Bob Kane doesn?t achieve what he done in his career by bowing to others and letting others walk over him. If it was wrong and he didn?t like it he would have said.

I am not knocking the Joe Chill story line, or how it evolved over the years. But what I am saying is people knocking that sub plot in Batman, when its as valid as any story written by any artist or writer or director since 1939. If its good enough for Bob Kane, why cant we accept it. Now that?s splitting hairs.

Agreed the Cathedral!! I love it and wouldnt change a thing about it.

Going off the subject with Spiderman, but again if you want to stay faithful to the 'original' comics Joe Chill didnt kill Bruce Waynes parents. He was a nameless thief who was never caught.