Robert Richardson discusses Ben Affleck's unproduced Batman script

Started by The Laughing Fish, Wed, 31 Jul 2019, 13:08

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Thanks for the link, colors.

The only good thing I read from that subreddit is those crooks Emmerich and Hamada getting replaced, though I'm not impressed with the rumour of Sarnoff staying on. Nevertheless, you would expect changes will come after all the bad PR over the years i.e. the DCEU sabotage, publicly refusing to release the Ayer cut, the Ray Fisher affair, the HBO Max same day fiasco, the many box office flops and so on.

Whether he did it directly or indirectly, Johns was one of the culprits to push Affleck out. Even if Johns didn't do what it's alleged over the Batman project, the fact of the matter is Affleck saw what happened to the Josstice L reshoots and bemoaned what an awful experience it was working under Whedon. As producer, Johns enabled everything that went wrong behind the scenes, not to mention he took credit for getting Whedon on board in the first place.

It's no wonder why Affleck wanted to leave. Which baffles me why he'd want to come back for The Flash when he knows what the DC side at WB is like. It's even more baffling when he openly admitted to having doubts the Batman parts he enjoyed doing will make the final cut.

Some fans speculated that Affleck's poor health was being exploited by Johns, Emmerich and ex-WB chief Kevin Tsujihara, in addition to working around what Affleck wanted for his take on Batman. Knowing the lengths they made to cover up the whole Josstice L fiasco and allow Johns to still work at DC and Warner despite his bad record as a producer, I wouldn't put it past them.

After all, Affleck said in an interview that somebody privately told him his Batman script was good, but then said they'd be afraid he'd drink himself to death if he experienced another Josstice L situation again. Sure, it could've been said by an agent or a close friend of his like Matt Damon who was simply looking out for him, and understandably so. Or, it could be said by Emmerich and Tsujihara, when they allegedly went to Affleck's residence to check up on him.



I repeat, I wouldn't have paid any attention to this Reddit rumour or bothered speculating what happened behind the scenes, if it weren't for John Campea suggesting there was a falling out between Affleck and Johns.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Mon, 24 Jan 2022, 10:35 #22 Last Edit: Mon, 24 Jan 2022, 10:36 by The Laughing Fish
Before she did a 360 degree turn to become a cheerleader for Warner Butchers' DC agenda and started trolling Snyderverse fans, Grace Randolph once shared her perspective about Geoff Johns and claimed she had insiders telling her what a terrible man he is. I don't want to find the video and give her a single view, but here is this snippet that somebody uploaded on Twitter. Just in case the video gets deleted one day, I'll transcribe what she says:

Quote from: Grace Randolph
The fact that Zack Snyder, if he had never run into Geoff Johns, he never would've had to go through all this. It's mind-blowing, and quite sad. Apparently, that has been the case for a lot of people. Everyone should stay away from Geoff Johns, careerwise. I think it's a disaster.

So, someone from the creative area has come to me. Someone from the executive branch has come to me. Someone in publicity has come to me, and someone from DC Comics has come to me! You know, someone who worked as a suit there. And I also heard from these people that Geoff Johns has been reported to human resources by other people. And that people who even worked with him on Stargirl - which was well received - but I heard from two different people: one person had told me Geoff Johns had no idea what he was doing with Stargirl, that it's a miracle the show turned out great, because he was really holding it back, and he's just way in over his head. And wouldn't admit it. And then I heard from another person that most people on that show hate him! They just can't stand working with him. One of these people even described Geoff Johns, to me, as a functioning sociopath.

Can you believe it? I mean, look, I'm glad that Walter Hamada and the higher-ups had a good experience with Johns. I'm not surprised because he works for them. Geoff Johns only blows sh*t downward.

https://twitter.com/snyder_all/status/1484806538820820993

Yeah, no sh*t Walter Hamada and the higher-ups had a good experience with Johns - they're as rotten as he is. But I guess when your access credentials are on the line, people like Grace have to understate things and outright sell out.

All of this information brings another perspective to Affleck tweeting this test footage of Joe Manganiello as Deathstroke, back in 2016. Maybe it was his way to ignite the hype for his Batman movie despite the trouble he was having behind closed doors.

https://twitter.com/benaffleck/status/770259217940746245

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDvFPS__tdI
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I saw these quotes by Matt Reeves about Ben Affleck's Batman script. He clearly had ulterior motives and always wanted to do his own thing.



I remember Reeves was either staying or going over doing Batman, and now it makes sense why. He wanted to have his own version. Well, I say no thanks. I'm not interested in yet another disconnected Batman movie trying too hard to ground itself in reality.

This video by Film Gob seems to hold up rather well, in retrospect.

https://youtu.be/0EB_IoWNgNs
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Concept artist Keith Christensen showed off his artwork for Affleck's film.













There's a bit more here: https://www.instagram.com/kachristensen_art/

The Batsuit was given a complete overhaul. I have a feeling this was a studio mandate, maybe as a soft reboot for Batfleck.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 20 Mar  2022, 13:33
The Batsuit was given a complete overhaul. I have a feeling this was a studio mandate, maybe as a soft reboot for Batfleck.
More likely it was a toyetic decision. Iron Man and MCU Spider-Man have new outfits in virtually every movie. There's a reason for that.


The suit kinda looks like a cross between Keats 1992 Returns suit, and Bale's 2008 TDK suit to me.

I like it.
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."


This would have been my favorite Affleck cowl, espehally in that lighting shot. Only thing I am not a fan of is the belt. It's a little too Wumbo for me lol


Not sure if it's really a "W" but thats all I see lol

Fans organised a #MakeTheBatfleckMovie billboard in front Discovery headquarters a few days ago. I read on Twitter it apparently got their attention.

https://comicbook.com/movies/news/make-the-batfleck-movie-batman-billboard-truck-warner-bros-discovery-headquarters/
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei