Blade (1998)

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Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 17:44 Last Edit: Fri, 24 Aug 2018, 17:48 by Silver Nemesis
Happy anniversary to Stephen Norrington's Blade, which turned 20 earlier this week. For a teenage comic book fan back in 1998, this movie was a lifeline. Batman & Robin had delegitimized superhero movies for many youngsters, and things weren't looking good for the genre. But then Blade came along and showed that CBMs could still be hip, modern and edgy.


The final showdown remains one of my favourite fight scenes in any superhero movie. Blade tanks up on blood and rage-modes his way through Deacon Frost's entire army of vampire goons, massacring them with his bare hands. This was Snipes in his prime.


Most people seem to prefer Guillermo del Toro's Blade II over the original, but the first film will always be my favourite.

The latest Deadpool 3 rumour claims Snipes is returning as Blade 8) : https://geekositymag.com/wesley-snipes-brings-horror-to-deadpool-3-as-blade/


Jackman's Wolverine, Affleck's Daredevil, Garner's Elektra and Snipes' Blade in the same movie. Get Thomas Jane as the Punisher and this could be the best multiverse superhero line-up to date. That's assuming the rumours are true.

I'll be curious to see if Deadpool 3 has a negative impact on the mainstream MCU reboots of Daredevil and Blade. It's going to be hard enough to get fans to accept someone other than Snipes in the role, and it'll be ten times harder if Snipes has only recently played him again. Particularly if Deadpool 3 is a good movie that does justice to the character.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 21 Jul  2023, 20:07The latest Deadpool 3 rumour claims Snipes is returning as Blade 8) : https://geekositymag.com/wesley-snipes-brings-horror-to-deadpool-3-as-blade/


Jackman's Wolverine, Affleck's Daredevil, Garner's Elektra and Snipes' Blade in the same movie. Get Thomas Jane as the Punisher and this could be the best multiverse superhero line-up to date. That's assuming the rumours are true.

I'll be curious to see if Deadpool 3 has a negative impact on the mainstream MCU reboots of Daredevil and Blade. It's going to be hard enough to get fans to accept someone other than Snipes in the role, and it'll be ten times harder if Snipes has only recently played him again. Particularly if Deadpool 3 is a good movie that does justice to the character.

This very well could shape up to be a more satisfying take on the multiverse concept, than what "Dr. Strange and the Multiverse of Madness" proved to be. Course, that wouldn't be too difficult a task either. Heck, I would be game for a Eric Bana Hulk cameo, though you just know the Shrek jokes would come flying soon after he appears. Course, it would be cool to maybe see Bana's Hulk in a skirmish (if just briefly) with Jackman's Wolverine. Which would be a nice little nod to the many Hulk/Wolverine battles from the Marvel comics history.


"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 22 Jul  2023, 00:18I would be game for a Eric Bana Hulk cameo
That's... a very interesting point.

But same. I mean, I'd prefer Edward Norton. But that's probably never happening. So, Bana? Yeah, I could go along with that.

Bringing back Bana's Hulk would be amazing.

But I'd go one step further. Why not bring back Ferrigno? Not just as the voice of the Hulk, but actually playing him in live action again. Sure, he's 71, but he's still in good shape for his age. In the old days they used perspective photography to make him appear bigger, but now they could enhance his size using digital effects. They could even bring back these guys for a cameo.


Most people wouldn't have a clue who they are, but older comic fans would get a kick out of it.

The funniest cameo would be if they got some random DC hero in there. Like if Dean Cain appears dressed as Clark Kent and Deadpool says, "Are you even allowed to be here?" Cain could then change into his Superman costume, only to find the S-shield digitally blurred for copyright reasons. He could only be referred to or credited as C.K., but everyone would know who he was. That would really shatter the fourth wall.

Maybe I'm going too far back in time though. The multiverse aspect of Deadpool 3 seems to be specifically concerned with those abandoned Marvel properties from the 2000s. If that's what they're focusing on, then adding Bana and Jane to the line-up they've already got would be perfect. They could also get Cage as Ghost Rider. Presumably all the Raimiverse characters are off limits.

I have no interest in any new movies on the immediate radar. Goodbye. See ya later. I hope they tank harder than an M1 Abrams. I remember having fond memories of the first two Blade movies, but I haven't seen them for ages. Dark humor from a badass black beast sounds good to me. So it's back to 1998 and 2002 for my entertainment - the current crop apart from Mission Impossible and Wick can't be trusted.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 22 Jul  2023, 03:10I mean, I'd prefer Edward Norton. But that's probably never happening. So, Bana? Yeah, I could go along with that.

Yeah, between the two, I would agree with Norton being the choice if it wasn't for the circumstances, and probably more difficult to get on board as opposed to Bana. Plus, Bana kinda fits better in the grander scheme of things with the notion of the multiverse in Deadpool 3 acknowledging the late 1990s-2000's era of Marvel movies. The "Experimental Phase", as I would call it. Before Disney got into the game, and increasingly became formulaic.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 22 Jul  2023, 11:00Bringing back Bana's Hulk would be amazing.

You know, seeing Bana's Hulk ripping apart Jackman's Wolverine would not only be inspired by the "Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk", but they could also have it as a call-back to what Juggernaut 2.0 did to Deadpool in the 2nd movie. With Deadpool snarkily referencing his own experience of course.

I kinda want to see that now.

QuoteBut I'd go one step further. Why not bring back Ferrigno? Not just as the voice of the Hulk, but actually playing him in live action again. Sure, he's 71, but he's still in good shape for his age. In the old days they used perspective photography to make him appear bigger, but now they could enhance his size using digital effects.

As much as I love that show, I would be game for that. Even if big Lou just ADR's his voice, I'm sure they have more than enough footage of his face as the Hulk during the series to deepfake on top of a bodybuilder stand in. Similar to how "Terminator Salvation" recreated the bulkier Arnie from 1984. Complete with the same hair style and all.


QuoteThey could even bring back these guys for a cameo.


Most people wouldn't have a clue who they are, but older comic fans would get a kick out of it.

Nothing wrong with that. Warners pretty much did the same with the Golden Age Jay Garrick Flash, and Nic Cage Superman appearing in "The Flash". With absolutely no frame of reference for either by the majority of the audience I'm sure.

QuoteThe funniest cameo would be if they got some random DC hero in there. Like if Dean Cain appears dressed as Clark Kent and Deadpool says, "Are you even allowed to be here?" Cain could then change into his Superman costume, only to find the S-shield digitally blurred for copyright reasons. He could only be referred to or credited as C.K., but everyone would know who he was. That would really shatter the fourth wall.

Outstanding!  ;D

QuoteMaybe I'm going too far back in time though. The multiverse aspect of Deadpool 3 seems to be specifically concerned with those abandoned Marvel properties from the 2000s. If that's what they're focusing on, then adding Bana and Jane to the line-up they've already got would be perfect. They could also get Cage as Ghost Rider. Presumably all the Raimiverse characters are off limits.

Yeah, I still remember all the rumors about Cage's Ghost Rider appearing in "Dr Strange Multiverse of MadnesS", along with a Tom Cruise Iron Man, ect ect ect. Seems like if a Cage Ghost Rider cameo were to EVER happen ... this would be the time. Absolutely.


"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 22 Jul  2023, 11:00Bringing back Bana's Hulk would be amazing.

But I'd go one step further. Why not bring back Ferrigno? Not just as the voice of the Hulk, but actually playing him in live action again. Sure, he's 71, but he's still in good shape for his age. In the old days they used perspective photography to make him appear bigger, but now they could enhance his size using digital effects. They could even bring back these guys for a cameo.


Most people wouldn't have a clue who they are, but older comic fans would get a kick out of it.

The funniest cameo would be if they got some random DC hero in there. Like if Dean Cain appears dressed as Clark Kent and Deadpool says, "Are you even allowed to be here?" Cain could then change into his Superman costume, only to find the S-shield digitally blurred for copyright reasons. He could only be referred to or credited as C.K., but everyone would know who he was. That would really shatter the fourth wall.

Maybe I'm going too far back in time though. The multiverse aspect of Deadpool 3 seems to be specifically concerned with those abandoned Marvel properties from the 2000s. If that's what they're focusing on, then adding Bana and Jane to the line-up they've already got would be perfect. They could also get Cage as Ghost Rider. Presumably all the Raimiverse characters are off limits.
If they want to go ALL the way, what's Nicholas Hammond up to these days?

Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 23 Jul  2023, 00:08You know, seeing Bana's Hulk ripping apart Jackman's Wolverine would not only be inspired by the "Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk", but they could also have it as a call-back to what Juggernaut 2.0 did to Deadpool in the 2nd movie. With Deadpool snarkily referencing his own experience of course.

One of my favourite Hulk comics ever is Peter David's 'Vicious Circle' (Incredible Hulk Vol 1 #340, October 1987), where Grey Hulk fights Wolverine in the snow. I got a reprint of this issue back in the nineties and read it repeatedly as a teenager. I know they've fought in other comics as well, but this is the one I always think of when I imagine them facing off. Something like that in live action would be spectacular.

Just so long as we don't have to see Logan do the Basic Instinct leg crossing thing when his limbs grow back...

Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 23 Jul  2023, 00:08As much as I love that show, I would be game for that. Even if big Lou just ADR's his voice, I'm sure they have more than enough footage of his face as the Hulk during the series to deepfake on top of a bodybuilder stand in. Similar to how "Terminator Salvation" recreated the bulkier Arnie from 1984. Complete with the same hair style and all.

I'd be happy with this approach. I'd just love him to be involved in some way. For me, the TV show starring him and Bixby ranks alongside the Peter David and Greg Pak runs in the comics as definitive Hulk.

And let's be honest, the MCU's Hulk material has been terrible of late. An appearance by Ferrigno, Bana or Norton in Deadpool 3 might be just the thing to wash away the bad taste left by the She-Hulk TV series.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 23 Jul  2023, 02:50If they want to go ALL the way, what's Nicholas Hammond up to these days?

Or Reb Brown, for that matter? He played Cap in two TV movies, one of which featured Christopher Lee as the baddie.


He seems proud of them now and would probably be up for a cameo.


Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 23 Jul  2023, 16:58One of my favourite Hulk comics ever is Peter David's 'Vicious Circle' (Incredible Hulk Vol 1 #340, October 1987), where Grey Hulk fights Wolverine in the snow. I got a reprint of this issue back in the nineties and read it repeatedly as a teenager. I know they've fought in other comics as well, but this is the one I always think of when I imagine them facing off. Something like that in live action would be spectacular.

That's the one where they are fighting in the snow, right? Yeah, that's a good one. About 20 years ago, there was a local comic store to me closing shop, and liquidating their entire stock. I got extremely lucky and got that issue at a really good price. Don't think I have a reprint though, unless it's in one of the collection trades I have....

QuoteJust so long as we don't have to see Logan do the Basic Instinct leg crossing thing when his limbs grow back...

Right! haha I remember uncomfortably laughing during that scene in the theater. Mainly because of the memorable Jerry Goldsmith score being used briefly, but it was one of those situations where it was like, yeesh!

That's a very distinctive score, and I'd rather associate it with Sharon Stone circa 1992 crossing and uncrossing her legs rather than something like Deadpool!

Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 23 Jul  2023, 00:08I'd be happy with this approach. I'd just love him to be involved in some way. For me, the TV show starring him and Bixby ranks alongside the Peter David and Greg Pak runs in the comics as definitive Hulk.

Yes, those runs were pretty great. Admittedly, I do have a soft spot for the early 2000's Bruce Jones run. When I was getting back into comics during that time, I had been out of the loop for a good 4-5 years, so with the Jones run getting some buzz, I decided to check it out. Personally, I remember thinking that it was a fresh take, and different from before, so I kinda liked it. The covers for the Bruce Jones run are top notch.


QuoteAnd let's be honest, the MCU's Hulk material has been terrible of late. An appearance by Ferrigno, Bana or Norton in Deadpool 3 might be just the thing to wash away the bad taste left by the She-Hulk TV series.

Exactly. It certainly couldn't hurt.

QuoteOr Reb Brown, for that matter? He played Cap in two TV movies, one of which featured Christopher Lee as the baddie.


He seems proud of them now and would probably be up for a cameo.


Why not? Looks like he's stayed in good shape. I mean, I'm sure there would be some sort of snark remark about brown's CA motorcycle helmet, but his appearance would surely spark some renewed interest. I would expect many more videos popping up chronicling Reb Brown's two Captain America tv movies at the very least.


"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."