25th anniversary releases

Started by Cobblepot4Mayor, Wed, 28 May 2014, 21:37

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Here's a quote from Goyer regarding She-Hulk:
QuoteI have a theory about She-Hulk. Which was created by a man, right? And at the time in particular I think 95% of comic book readers were men and certainly almost all of the comic book writers were men. So the Hulk was this classic male power fantasy. It's like, most of the people reading comic books were these people like me who were just these little kids getting the sh*t kicked out of them every day... And so then they created She-Hulk, right? Who was still smart... I think She-Hulk is the chick that you could f*** if you were Hulk, you know what I'm saying? ... She-Hulk was the extension of the male power fantasy. So it's like if I'm going to be this geek who becomes the Hulk then let's create a giant green porn star that only the Hulk could f***.

The following response from Stan Lee sums up my thoughts on this specific comment and Goyer in general:
QuoteNever for an instant did I want her as a love interest for Hulk, only a nut would even think of that.

Like you state Riddler, the guy's a hack with barely a single decent credit to his name.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Not sure how everyone feels about Kevin Smith but he rips a strip off Goyer (advanced caution for vulgar language)




She Hulk is Bruce Banners COUSIN. If Goyer thinks they should mate that takes his flaws to a new level.

It's very obvious this clown doesn't get it; the only success he experiences is riding Nolan or Geoff Johns coat tails.


Sat, 8 Nov 2014, 23:59 #42 Last Edit: Sun, 9 Nov 2014, 00:55 by The Laughing Fish
I don't like Kevin Smith, but I'll give him credit for questioning Goyer's logic.

Let's not forget about the comments that Goyer made about Martian Manhunter a couple of months back:

QuoteHow many people in the audience have heard of Martian Manhunter? How many people that raised their hands have ever been laid?

Well, he hasn't been rebooted but he's a mainstay in the Justice League. He can't be $%#ing called the Martian Manhunter because that's goofy. He can be called Manhunter ... The whole deal with Martian Manhunter is he's an alien living amongst us ... So he comes down to Earth and decides, unlike Superman who already exists in the world now, that he's just going to be a homicide detective ... So instead of using super-powers and mind-reading and like, oh, I could figure out if the President's lying or whatever, he just decides to disguise himself as a human homicide detective. Dare to dream!

http://www.blastr.com/2014-5-21/superman-writer-david-goyer-slams-martian-manhunter-calls-she-hulk-porn-star

Nice disparaging comments there Goyer, you farken wanker! I never got the impression he thought too highly of his own audience by the crap he normally writes. This comment proves it.

I find it rich that he writes movies about Superman and Batman who are just as 'goofy' as Martian Manhunter. Really, what makes those characters less absurd about another alien who adopts Earth as his home? They are comic book characters, aren't they?

Then again, it's not that surprising he'd write such stupidity. After all, this is the same guy who thought writing a story about an impulsive and reckless Bruce Wayne who finds no direction in life until he meets Ra's al Ghul is somehow more captivating than a man who dedicates his whole life training to be at peak condition as a crime-fighter to avenge the death of his parents.  ::)

I seriously hope BvS is drastically rewritten and I hope he has nothing to do with writing the Wonder Woman movie.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat,  8 Nov  2014, 23:59
I seriously hope BvS is drastically rewritten and I hope he has nothing to do with writing the Wonder Woman movie.
Especially this.

That whole 'She-Hulk' quote demonstrates that he should never be allowed to write another female character in his career.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Characters can't go by the name fans have associated with them for years, that's ridiculous!

That's the same logic that successfully changed Captain Marvel to Shazam. They think it makes it easier - these characters that have been adored for decades need to be dumbed down for a mainstream audience. When in reality, staying closer to the comics is in fact giving them more of the appeal that made these superheroes popular in the first place. Why can't Superman have tights? Why can't Catwoman actually have a name? Are those two things completely unreasonable in a "realistic" setting?

Sun, 9 Nov 2014, 01:23 #45 Last Edit: Sun, 9 Nov 2014, 01:36 by The Laughing Fish
Quote from: Slash Man on Sun,  9 Nov  2014, 01:05
Characters can't go by the name fans have associated with them for years, that's ridiculous!

That's the same logic that successfully changed Captain Marvel to Shazam. They think it makes it easier - these characters that have been adored for decades need to be dumbed down for a mainstream audience. When in reality, staying closer to the comics is in fact giving them more of the appeal that made these superheroes popular in the first place. Why can't Superman have tights? Why can't Catwoman actually have a name? Are those two things completely unreasonable in a "realistic" setting?

To be fair, Clark did get referred to as Superman at one stage in Man of Steel, albeit in a very unspectacular way.

But Selina Kyle not being called Catwoman in The Dark Knight Rises is laughable. A friend of mine said it best: "So some idiot can dress up in a costume and give himself a stupid name like Batman, but a girl isn't allowed to call herself Catwoman?".  What makes it even more outrageous is that she is much more convincing as a fighter because she doesn't wear any of that pointless armor like Batman and has more agility than he does.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

It's a shame because it seems the Digibook version is the best we've gotten so far.

Quote from: PJ on Fri,  7 Nov  2014, 16:40
Keaton's while interview time only totals about 2 minutes and is so sad as you know they're sitting on loads of footage from that and they've included it in amongst content that is pretty offensive to any fans of the film

Could anyone post this part up on Youtube?


Sweet! I was gonna buy a copy anyway just to have sealed (I collect the film in every major release version), and I wanted a NECA Keaton, but didn't want the video game colors!

Win/Win!
"There's just as much room for the television series and the comic books as there is for my movie. Why wouldn't there be?" - Tim Burton