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Other DC Films & TV / Re: Wonder Woman (2017)
Last post by The Joker - Today at 06:48

Interesting to read more about Zack's proposed WW1854.

Honestly, as intriguing as the concept reads, i don't think I would have traded it for what we ended up with with WW2017. As WW2017 was more or less true to what William Moulton Marston depicted with her origin, ect only trading the WW2 setting for WW1.

Having her in Crimea, globetrotting across the globe in search of Ares, taking on multiple lovers, eventually leading to Steve Trevor, ect could be a interesting story. Personally, I would eliminate the subplots of Diana having multiple lovers, with them ageing later having insecurities, ect. I think Zack would be getting dangerously close to "Pearl Harbor" love triangle territory with that stuff in a Wonder Woman movie.
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Nice scans, TLF, Colors.

The first time I recall ever hearing about BTAS, was from some magazine (definitely not Wizard or Comics Scene lol) at a doctor's waiting room due to being sick and having to be absent from school that day.

From memory, there were not many images within the article, but just enough to get excited about (i vaguely seem to remember seeing what Batman and the Joker were going to look like, and wondering if the Joker was going to sound like Nicholson or not? lol). I remember thinking it was cool just to have a Batman cartoon, period. As I don't remember the Filmation cartoon EVER being re-run on television (same with Superfriends and/or Super Powers). So, for me, there was something of a novelty in seeing a then-current Batman in animated form finally with BTAS.
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Other DC Films & TV / Re: Wonder Woman (2017)
Last post by Kamdan - Yesterday at 15:16
QuoteI have never seen WW84, but from what I've read this picture was in the film. If that's so then I don't know what Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot were thinking. They went from talking about how the original plan of Diana leaving humanity behind is supposedly going against the character - to have her do nothing and let the Holocaust happen? It doesn't make any sense.

Absolutely correct. They were totally tone deaf on handling this character with what was established from earlier. Totally embarrassing that someone actually photoshopped that picture. It's so frustrating that they threw away a terrific opportunity to have an immortal character like Diana be the wisest and most seasoned superhero living and fighting through atrocities throughout the 20th century and how certain events could make her hardened towards humanity and how people like Superman and Batman could convince her that people are worth saving. Instead, they got too focused on how glamorous Diana should be that just draws unwanted attention and how a superhero like her suffers because a cab will stop for a man instead of her.
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Comics Scene #29, October 1992














When I first heard about BTAS when I was 11 or so, I went into it with the assumption that it was going to be a very Filmation or Hanna-Barbera type of thing. And honestly, I was totally okay with that.

But this feature from Comics Scene is the first inkling I ever got that BTAS aspired to be a LOT more than a 20 some odd minute toy commercial with Good Moral Lessons at the end of each episode. I was already excited about the show. But this feature made me a BTAS True Believer very early on.

Also, this is a very Batman-oriented issue of Comics Scene. There are features about BTAS, an interview with Michael Keaton about Batman Returns and an interview with Kelley Jones where he discusses (among other things) Red Rain.

Very enjoyable issue of an underrated comics industry trade publication. I like Wizard as much as the next guy. But Comics Scene had some very high quality interviews and features too.
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Here's yet more evidence of James Gunn being a sick freak - he wrote this book in 2000 called The Toy Collector. This is about a drug addict named after himself. The stuff that's written in the page below is disgusting:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Toy_Collector

This is supposed to be funny? How the hell did this get published in the first place I will never understand.

If you're going to name a character after you, why the f*** would you do it for a character who is depraved beyond belief? To me, it seems Gunn is expressing his real thoughts either in the vein of fiction or the excuse that he has a sick "sense of humour". If there wasn't a pattern of behaviour we've seen over the years, I could honestly give him the benefit of the doubt. But somebody who does this repeatedly throughout adulthood will never change, and the losers who defend him wouldn't dare to think twice and condemn somebody else if they were an average nobody. Unless they're degenerates too.

There were screenshots of Gunn making racist remarks multiple times in the book, which makes his detractors believe he's a bigot. After the alarming track record of this man, anything is possible.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 20 Dec  2022, 11:23Afterwards, Ray Fisher expressed how unimpressed he was with Gunn, accusing him of using fake grace on Twitter, and more or less accusing Gunn of being two-faced once he got the DC job.

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1604972198984179712?cxt=HHwWgICjrcTtgMYsAAAA

Now, I should mention that Gunn did reply and defended himself, claiming he auto-deletes every tweet of his every few months and it had nothing to do with comments to Ray. But seeing as he deleted who knows how many vile tweet he made when he was exposed four years ago, I doubt his sincerity, and I get the impression he still has something to hide.

At the time of writing this post, Gunn's response to Fisher is still online.

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1605018783407804416

Yet again, what a liar. Anyone who claims to be a fan of Superman or superheroes but looks up to this creep has no credibility whatsoever.
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Other DC Films & TV / Re: Wonder Woman (2017)
Last post by The Laughing Fish - Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 01:41
Quotehttps://i.imgur.com/mWBY5SA.jpg

Zack Snyder finally explained the concept for Wonder Woman 1854. This never had a script, but had it gone through we would've gotten this instead of the film we saw in 2017.

QuoteZack Snyder had come up with another Wonder Woman story that he would have liked develop as a film that saw Wonder Woman fight in the Crimean War in the 1800s.

The project was known as Wonder Woman 1854, and it would have seen Wonder Woman leave the island to pursue Ares earlier.

According to Snyder, "The idea of that was an early riff we were doing: once Wonder Woman left the island in search of Ares, what happened to her in her different incarnations?"

He added: "My idea for it was that she would travel around the world looking for Ares and she would go to every place where there was conflict."

Wonder Woman 1854 never got as far as being an actual script. but Snyder shared a photo on social media back in 2021, which saw Diana carrying the severed heads of enemies.

The resulting story would have been a combination of love and war. Snyder explained: "On those battlefields she found these lovers, warriors, and they would age out because she is immortal.

He continued: "They would be her lover for ten years or they might die in battle, and it was probably sad for a lot of the guys because they would see her starting to be nice to the next young soldier and be like, 'Oh, I'm being replaced.' But all the guys that she had with her were those loyal warriors she found on the battlefields all over the world."

Snyder confirms that the story would have led Diana to Chris Pine's Steve Trevor. "We talked about if Steve Trevor was there in Crimea. It was never a screenplay, but we talked about it so much that it kind of had its own life."

That sounds like it would've been a great Wonder Woman story to tell! But, it's one that will never end up getting made.

https://geektyrant.com/news/zack-snyder-shares-details-on-scrapped-plans-for-wonder-woman-1854-movie

I'm content with the film we got, but I reckon it handicapped itself a bit when the ending was rewritten. Having been through the horrors of war, as Diana saw of pain and  suffering during WWI, and then coming back a century later to face a greater enemy thanks to Superman's sacrifice, would've made Diana's character arc much richer. Yet despite this retconning, WW84 still had this photo of Diana looking horrified at the rise of Nazi Germany.



I have never seen WW84, but from what I've read this picture was in the film. If that's so then I don't know what Patty Jenkins and Gal Gadot were thinking. They went from talking about how the original plan of Diana leaving humanity behind is supposedly going against the character - to have her do nothing and let the Holocaust happen? It doesn't make any sense.
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This is pretty surprising to read knowing DiCaprio swore he'd never even dare to star in these kind of movies. It's interesting that Snyder confessed that DiCaprio suggested the idea of Superman fighting the Justice League and how that influenced his decision to have him combat the team after his resurrection in ZSJL.

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/zack-snyder-leonardo-dicaprio-lex-luthor-1235974867/

DiCaprio would've given BvS a greater level of gravitas. Too bad he turned the role down.
#8
Movies / Re: Rebel Moon
Last post by The Laughing Fish - Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 01:15
I saw Part Two - The Scargiver last week. It's just fine, the first hour is really about everyone preparing for war at the farm in Veldt before Noble returns to wreck havoc throughout the second half. The highlights of the film were the scenes of the main characters were having a last supper-type of moment sharing their tragic stories caused by the Imperium and some of the sacrifices deep in the second half. The film is pretty choppy though; Jimmy once again is very short-changed as a character. Probably the most out of all of them.

The sooner these director's cuts come out, the better. As it stands now, I think I prefer the ArmyVerse better. The writing was tighter, the editing was smoother and everything simply flowed better. So far, Netflix appears to be very happy with the strategy they enforced with the views that Rebel Moon is getting so far, but you still prefer to see the complete version of a film instead of a choppy one. It sucks that Snyder has this reputation of being THE director's cut director thanks to studio politics.
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Movies / Re: WBD wants to shelve Coyote...
Last post by The Laughing Fish - Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 01:14
While the odious James Gunn continues to promote himself, he was screenshotted taking a dump on the whole #ReleaseCoyoteVsACME movement.



He seems he couldn't care less, but I bet if this film were to come out he'd certainly take credit for it.
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Movies / Re: The Alien Franchise
Last post by The Laughing Fish - Thu, 25 Apr 2024, 00:58
Quote from: The Joker on Mon, 22 Apr  2024, 00:30Unfortunately, I've never played "Alien Isolation", so I am not super-familiar with that story line, but I get the idea about the Alien being resilient being something that "Romulus" can take aim at. In doing so, that sort of direction would honestly give even more credence towards Ash's admission of having high regard of the Alien itself as the "perfect organism".   

I definitely recommend you to check out Alien Isolation whenever you can. It takes place around twelve years after the first film and you play Ripley's daughter investigating a distress signal at a space station, who is also trying to find out what happened to her mum. The game contains audio recordings of all the characters from the first film, but trying to find all of them is a challenge. If you get the complete edition, you can play DLC mini-games that recreates key events from the first film e.g. Ripley's dramatic escape from Nostromo.

Tonally, Isolation more inline with Ridley Scott's vision than James Cameron in terms of scenery and atmosphere. As such, the game lives up to the spirit of that film as a survival horror game and weapons don't come into the game until you're about two-thirds into it. The only time it resembles Cameron's Aliens is the moment when you investigate deeper into the space station, where a huge hive nested there and you have Facehuggers popping out everywhere.

As for Romulus, it looks good. It may not reinvent the wheel compared to what we saw before, but that's alright as long as it has that gritty suspense.