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Here is a pair of pretty cool on set pics taken of the batboat.
These are original pics taken by a crewmember.
They are pretty cool... Notice the emblem on the steering wheel.

True, I should been more specific.
The scene where Bruce walks away and they show a crazy close up of Jim and he says.... "You were supposed to understand.......I'll make you understand."
That was the only time i think he nailed it, Riddler was obviously not potrayed as he should. But in some scenes i think he did a great job, Mostly as he was Edward.

I dont know what to belive, But overall i think it was a good read.

Great Pics, I have always found it funny that Batman have the Sonar fins on the Panther suit in the main poster.

Great Pics! I'll add these to my folder.
Thanks.

I didnt care much for his Riddler, But his Edward Nygma was awesome....Aside from the man crush for Bruce Wayne.

Thanks man.
I will upload some pics of my Screen used/Original Batman Forever Pieces in a week or so.

I have been a lurker for a long time, But decided to join up cuz this board is about the whole movie's and not just the suits. But i enjoy talking about the original suits wich is hard to do on other boards that are about replicas.

Thanks.

They used silicone for all water scenes because foam would have soaked up the water as a Foam sponge and been too heavy after he hit the water. They did Silicone suits of the Sonar and Robin suits aswell for the water scenes at the end for the same reason.

In the fire scene they had to use silicone because Foam would burn up in an instant. They did the same in Begins.

The black Panther cowl on the Kilmer lifecast is one of the cowls in Silicone, Used for the Water and Fire scenes. That picture was taken during pre-production because you can see a early design of the Sonar cowl in the back, So they had probably not started filming yet when that pic was taken.

Notice the small cowl maquette in the back on the picture were Jose is working on the Panther cowl sculpt. It was somewhat based on the Returns Cowl.

I dont think Keaton was still considered for the role when those pics were taken, Considering the pics shows Jose sculpting the Panther cowl on Kilmers lifecast with part of the torso on. And based on the Silicone cowl on the Kilmer lifecast they were probably pretty far in pre-production... Maybe even started to film some scenes.
Those Keaton Maquettes were probably only early designs that they did when they thought Keaton would return. They probably just happened to have them around the shop while they worked on the suits for Val. I read about rumors of Keaton being there doing test fittings aswell. But its not been confirmed and i highly doubt he did that.