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It'll be interesting to see what these 'Nolan Nazis' do when the next batman film comes along; they don't seem to have the mentality to accept more than 1 version. Some are the 'newer is better' mentality and thus would likely abandon Nolan, perhaps some stay loyal to him.


And yes I agree as well that the 'trilogy' aspect was stupid and hypocritical; didn't Goyer say at one point that Burton had no business killing the Joker (something Nolanites went off on a tangent about until the dark knight and Dent was killed)... well Nolan Killed Batman more or less! That's breaking a golden rule in comics. I can understand killing the villains, there's plenty to go around so they don't need to be re used in films but killing the hero? And you can go on about how Wayne isn't really dead; he painted the series into a corner. It'll need some clever writing to be salvaged.

Into a corner? It's the conclusion of the series. Besides even if it wasn't it still isn't hard to bring him back.

I've found this picture on some meme website with a caption titled "How The Dark Knight Rises Really Should Have Ended".

But that doesn't apply because Joker didn't try to do the same thing that Ra's did.

I'm sorry, but no. He didn't kill Ra's. Ra's stabbed the console while Batman was trying to shut it down. Ra's got himself killed. What Batman says later seems to be just him talking smack.

The temple thing, if anyone was killed, was fully accidental. He didn't do it to kill anybody.

It was the same with Two-Face's death. He didn't tackle Harvey to kill him. He did it to save Jim's son. Harvey died as a result.

The truck driver was killed inadvertently. Batman was shooting at the truck to get it to change course, but Talia forced the driver to stay in the same spot.

When Batman says he doesn't kill, he means that he doesn't choose to murder someone.

I have given a lot of thought to this. I even came up with four seasons of it. It would exist in the Flash/Arrow universe.

This is my fan cast. The only one's I'm not sure about are my choices for Bruce and Selina, so if you have better choices, please tell me.

Luke Mitchell as Bruce Wayne/Batman

Shelley Hennig as Selina Kyle/Catwoman

Jack Coleman as Captain James Gordon

Colin Donnell as Harvey Dent/Two-Face

Brie Larson as Barbara Gordon/Batgirl/Oracle

Dylan Minnette as Richard "Dick" Grayson/Robin/Nightwing

Roger Rees as Alfred Pennyworth

Alan Tudyk as The Red Hood/The Joker

Alison Brie as Dr. Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn

Lacey Chabert as Zatana Zatara

Seth Gabel as Edward Nashton/Edward Nygma/The Riddler

Tobin Bell as Victor Fries/Mr. Freeze

Giancarlo Esposito as Professor Hugo Strange

Garret Dillahunt as Julian Day/The Calendar Man

Yvonne Strahovski as Firefly

Alexis Denisof as Zsazz

Kevin Durand as Killer Croc

Mark A. Shephard as Oswald Cobblepot/Penguin

Joe Morton as Lucius Fox

Enver Gjoak as Roman Sionis/Black Mask

Mark Pellegrino as Kirk Langstrom/Man-Bat

Jeremy Davies as Jonathan Crane/The Scarecrow

Claire Holt as Pamela Isley/Poison Ivy

I also couldn't think up someone to play the Mad Hatter. So, I would really like a suggestion on that.

This is a season one episode list.

The Bat
Dark Disguise
Not So Smart
Enough Days In The Week
Like Father, Like Son
The Birdcage
Inspiration
The Sincerest Form Of Flattery
Eco-Friendly
A Really Bad Day
The Long Halloween Part One
Joke's On You
A Magician's Touch
Cold Blooded
Lips Of Poison
Fan The Flames
Heads Or Tails
Batgirl
Hat Of Madness
How To Catch A Bat
Everything To Fear
A Holiday's End
The Long Halloween Part Two

The first half is mainly dealing with mobsters and killers, with the Red Hood being the antagonist at the end in the mid-season finale. The idea of this is that the city is just average crime-wise. The insanity hasn't taken over the city yet. There's little things, like a Riddle based criminal who likes to prove he's smarter than everyone else, or a Cat burglar who takes the "cat" part a little too literally, even an over-enthusiastic eco-terrorist and a thug working for Oswald Cobblepot that has a scaly skin condition, but that's about it. The criminals are fairly average, as are their crimes: Serial killers and mobsters. Batman changes the way people look at themselves as criminals. A joke of a mobster Ozzy "The Penguin" Cobblepot the joke of the criminal underworld becomes angrier more vicious, less cowardly, Roman Sionis kills his Father, the head of the Sionis crime syndicate, by setting him on fire, leaving only his blackened skeleton and smashes his coffin at his funeral and keeps a piece of it to carry around like a security blanket. The Red Hood's view of reality starts to warp and become distorted. The Red Hood kidnaps the mobsters in the mid-season finale to force them to prove to him that they deserve to live in the vision he has for Gotham. Harvey Dent begins to crack as well, lashing out in anger, taking an almost vicious view of justice at first. The idea is seeing the the city become the city we know about. The character becoming the characters we know. Jim has to develop a trust and partnership with Batman. Bruce has to fully become Batman. Barbara has to become restless and agitated with the state of the city and develop a desire to do something about it and become inspired by Batman. The RH gathers the mobsters at Ace Chemicals Plant, where Batman comes after him. This concludes with The RH falling into the chemicals.

We then time jump ahead a year.

The second half is when stuff gets crazy. Like Frozen Men and a Super Strong Zombie and Magician's and Giant Bat Creatures and Fear Toxin spraying Men and Mind Controlling Hats and Fire shooting Bug Women. The Joker comes in and Harvey Dent cracks in half finally and becomes Two-Face. Robin comes in and Barbara becomes Batgirl. That's basically about how now that Bruce is fully Batman how does he deal with it, especially now that he's got a team to worry about, with this background arc of The Holiday Killer.

Does anyone have any thoughts?

EDIT: I changed my Catwoman decision. I'm pretty happy with it now.