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#1
According to people who have seen David Ayer's cut of Suicide Squad, Batfleck is still a capable fighter during an underwater tussle with Killer Croc, by using his body to grapple and subdue him. Below is a script excerpt for the allegedly filmed scene.



Makes me wonder if there is any more unseen footage of Batfleck.
#2
Misc Comics / DC has sunk to a new low
Tue, 31 Dec 2024, 03:07
https://leagueofcomicgeeks.com/comics/series/183561/harley-quinn-fartacular-silent-butt-deadly

Really, DC? You're going to publish this gross stupidity to the market? I thought the comics side of the business had some standards. Not even the most woke comic out there would stoop to this level.

Unbelievable.
#3
Other DC Films & TV / Re: Man of Steel
Tue, 31 Dec 2024, 03:00
I saw Sonic The Hedgehog 3 a few days ago, and thought the shot where Sonic and Shadow charging towards each other mirrored the shot of Superman and Zod clashing with each other during the Battle of Metropolis in MOS. But others have noticed that Sonic 3 is the latest example to copy the Superman punch on Zod.

https://youtu.be/CSJLROxeqzM
#4
Other DC Films & TV / Re: Superman (2025)
Tue, 31 Dec 2024, 02:48
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 21 Dec  2024, 02:03Nevermind the bloated cast list, what's the budget on this?

Gunn denies it, but it's documented that the budget costs $363 million. I'm sure Hollywood's creative accounting will do whatever it takes to make it look less expensive. The Flash's budget was supposed to be $220 million, but The Hollywood Reporter later revealed its real budget was $300 million and possibly more, thus making it more of a flop than it already was.

I'll say it before, and I'll say it again: it goes to show how hypocritical how Snyder got heavily criticised for "rushing" the Justice League in BvS, but then turn around be sycophants for justifying the amount of other superheroes in a Superman movie. Idiotic excuses like it's "similar to the DCAU".

A friend of mine showed me the trailer against my wishes because he wasn't impressed with it. What can I say? It's rubbish. Everything about it looks cheap, from the cinematography, the VFX, the costumes. I gotta love how Gunn stated took inspiration from Richard Donner AND Zack Snyder, knowing he sabotaged Cavill's return. But you can see how derivative the shots are from many other Superman movies, with Superman and Lois floating up in the air holding each other, a shot of an angry crowd showing their contempt for Superman similar to the Capitol scene in BvS. Knowing Gunn, he'll use Krypto for cheap sentimental factor and possibly crude attempt at humour, if that awful GOTG Vol. 2 is anything to go by, and will shake up all the darkness in his film with cheap jokes and hokey attempts at "hope and optimism". I'm also not impressed that Clark Kent is going to be socially awkward again. Not only by the goofy broccoli hair but even in modern-day quirky stereotypes which I despise.

Joker, as much as I don't care for Ethan Van Sciver, he wasn't enthused by the trailer and even called out Guy Gardner's appearance from wig to costume "a humiliation". If costume designs look much better in an Arrowverse TV show than a big-budget feature film then that's a serious problem.

As I've said many times before, Gunn has hijacked the DC brand to line up his own pockets. The vast majority of stuff he greenlit are stuff he wrote, including crap like Creature Commandos where a fifty something year old Rick Flagg Sr apparently sleeps with teenage girls and Doctor Phosphorus gives enemies the middle fingers as he melts them to death, and another season of Peacemaker where you're subjected to this stupidity:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gWkJTp0Ld8

https://youtu.be/A6_yCaI-grs

I don't care if the joke is about how stupid Peacemaker the character is, why the f*** would you associate such toilet humour with Superman? Do people seriously want this garbage to be part of the DC brand?

To demonstrate what a farce this soft reboot of the DC franchise on film is, it's now officially revealed that Jason Momoa is playing Lobo in the Supergirl reboot. Ten years ago, I'd say that's perfect casting. Now? That's just stupid for two reasons: 1) you go from playing Aquaman to a lesser-known character in the eyes of the public who'll definitely be a goofy clown (and let's face it, Momoa is lowering his standards like Chris Hemsworth by appearing in dumb comedies and commercials), and 2) this makes the DC timeline even more nonsensical as Peacemaker is confirmed to be canon - except for the JL cameo. What sort of world-building is this?

If people still think James Gunn is a great choice to be in charge of DC despite all the controversial sh*t surrounding him both professionally and personally and his juvenile at best, creepy at worst sense of humour...all I can say this without getting censored even further is God help them.

Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 23 Dec  2024, 05:36I guess typing all this out, maybe I did figure it out? And it basically comes down to smoke and mirrors. I'm being tricked into liking this, when I want to organically like it. I can see the bunny in the hat, and they're trying to gaslight me into thinking this is real magic, and that I didn't see anything. I want the these movies to succeed. I love DC, and I don't want these things to fail, but damn, are they making it hard right now.

I dunno, whatever....

For me, they've made it impossible. The Justice League saga, attempts to gaslight everyone over The Flash and squandering Keaton's Batman comeback, and the non-stop dirty politicking that screws up everything they promise to deliver. As much as I like DC characters, why support a brand where the decision makers treat everyone from creatives to fans with utter contempt?
#5
Imagine watching B89 in its entirety without Joker's prosthetics.

https://youtu.be/BxTqGuZAxSQ
#6
Quote from: Travesty on Sat, 28 Dec  2024, 17:38
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 13 Mar  2024, 00:46Well, it looks like the sequel is delayed to October 20-friggin-26.


2027

Gunn claimed a few weeks ago that there hasn't been a first draft completed yet, but if Reeves stated he has a script and is planning to shoot next year, then this latest delay reeks of sabotage. Gunn can spin any other bullsh*t all he wants, but where there is smoke there is fire.

I never had any interest in the Reevesverse, but I've followed the behind-the-scenes news and it's not the first time that fishy stuff has affected that franchise. Reeves said there were plans to develop TV spinoffs based an Arkham Asylum and GCPD in his universe, but then they didn't come to fruition. The most suspicious moment was Gunn claiming the Arkham show was always set in his DCU once he and Safran came on-board, but then that project got scrapped. The GCPD project never got off the ground because it was a show primarily about a corrupt cop (sounds like The Shield but based in Gotham City), but Reeves said the project was scrapped because the studio wanted to focus on marquee Batman characters. There was also talk about Clayface, Joker and Catwoman getting their own TV spinoffs on Max at one point, but now Clayface is announced and set in Gunn's universe instead. Now this supposed film sequel has been delayed five years and seven months after the first film?

Either Reeves is being forced to join Gunn's DCU, or he is being pressured to the point of he'll quit. I can't say care after the sh*t that happened to Snyder, Affleck and company, but it goes to show WB will never change its dirty habits.
#7
So, that Creature Commandos sh*t came out, and despite the supposedly rave reviews, the show is full of toilet humour, necrophilia and sex scenes. On top of that, events from Gunn's Suicide Squad movie and Peacemaker (minus the Justice League cameo) are supposedly canon, because there's no way Gunn would ever reboot his own sh*t. Great way to start the DCU, right?

But on top of that, Gunn uploaded a five-second video of one of the actresses on the show recording kissing and moaning sounds for one of the sex scenes in the show. This f***wit is co-CEO of DC Studios, and out of all things he could've shared behind the scenes of his new show, he shares THAT. Meanwhile, some fans are claiming the character designs for Rick Flagg Snr and the Princess he had sex with are modelled after Gunn and his wife. I can believe that, because Gunn himself has a cameo of himself in the opening credits typing on his laptop. Creepy narcissism is off the charts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFGQFD2RROw

Those who have watched the show claimed that the Princess is seventeen years old, while Flagg Snr is in his fifties. If that's true, it's gross, but it's not surprising knowing he wrote it.

Meanwhile, Gunn is confusing everyone on social media about the status of Reeves Batman. Apparently,, Reeves reportedly said the script for the sequel is finished, but Gunn not only denied this, he even claimed a first draft isn't even finished yet. While denying rumours that Clayface and Scarecrow would appear in the sequel, Gunn suddenly announced a Clayface movie has been greenlit and will be set in his DC universe.

What a confusing mess, and reeks of ulterior motives going on behind the scenes.
#8
I'm watching this interview of Paul Williams who played Penguin in BTAS. Aside from looking back on his experience working on the show, he revealed he nearly wrote songs for Donner's Superman, but he had creative differences and didn't like "Can You Read My Mind?". He sings the song he wanted to write, which he explained was a reference to Superman turning back time. Pretty cool bit of trivia.

https://youtu.be/AZIRbzRLfKc?t=1349
#9
Holy crap, Penguin as a kid was shot on film with the parents. I never knew this was planned, nor did I know these film dailies even existed. But unlike the shots of Batman driving the Batmobile, the frames on the left appear to be screen tests.



All I could find out about the actor who played young Oswald was her name was Nitko Botelho, and she played one of the Penguins who discovered him as a baby at the end of the opening credits.

Now I'm curious to know if there were any actual scenes of this deleted concept got filmed at all.
#10
Finished Runs / Re: Batman in the '70s
Sun, 15 Dec 2024, 09:34
I was reading this article praising Neal Adams as a Batman comic book artist, and I was surprised to learn that he hated Joker, Penguin and Riddler. There's no citations for it though.

I can see the comparisons between Batman and Ra's al Ghul and Sherlock Holmes and Professor Moriarty. Moriarty always admired Holmes as his intellectual equal, and Ra's al Ghul complimented Batman as "detective" is pretty obvious, so it's not so surprising to hear Adams was a big Sherlock Holmes fan.

QuoteNeal wanted to do more. He helped created Ra's al Ghul to be Batman's Moriarty; he loved Sherlock Holmes. He drew (in my opinion) the sexiest woman ever when he drew Talia and drew the best Alfred of all time. His Robin was always Dick Grayson, a brilliant gymnast and loyal to a fault.

Neal knew Batman needed big adventures. That's where Ra's Al Ghul came from. That's where sexy Talia came from. That's where Man-Bat came from. A desire to expand Batman from the "clowns" — the Joker, the Riddler, the Penguin. Neal secretly hated all of those characters. He never did the Penguin because... well, an umbrella helicopter? Maybe he could deal with the Joker — and he did, with Denny, in one of their very best stories — but he really wanted to expand Batman's world.

https://13thdimension.com/why-neal-adams-is-still-the-greatest-batman-artist-of-them-all/