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Title: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 10:59
The new trailer for the next MCU show has debuted, starring Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7Krla_UxRg

This might be the first Marvel content that has gotten my attention in four years. The only Moon Knight comics I've read was was the original Doug Moench run, where he's basically more or less a Batman clone, who happens to brought back to life by an Ancient Egyptian spirit when he was double-crossed during a mercenary mission. In the original comics, he adopted multiple personas, the billionaire, the taxi driver to find out info going around the street similar to Batman's Matches Malone identity, and as his superhero ego. I've haven't read his later comics, but a friend told me he was reinvented a bit by making him suffer from dissociative personality disorder. I believe that's the direction this show might be going for.

I anticipate Moon Knight will have a bit of that formulaic Marvel humour, but hopefully it doesn't overdue like most of the MCU content does nowadays.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: Travesty on Tue, 18 Jan 2022, 15:48
I've never read a Moon Knight comic in my life, but this show looks good.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 20 Jan 2022, 11:48
Gaspard Ulliel, who plays the villain Midnight Man in this new show, has tragically died in a skiing accident.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jan/19/gaspard-ulliel-french-actor-dies-skiing-accident

Sad news.

Watching the trailer again, Oscar Isaac's English personality is called Steven. IIRC, Marc Spector adopted the billionaire identity called Steven Grant in the original comics I read. Like Batman, he had a luxury vehicle, but instead of a Batmobile knockoff, he had a plane called the Mooncopter.

(https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/square_medium/5/57347/1807091-mooncopter.jpg)

They probably won't reveal the Mooncopter in this show if Spector doesn't adopt the billionaire persona, so maybe it might be introduced in the next season, film or whatever.

In this TV show, Steven is works in a gift shop. Judging by the confusion over him holding a gun during the car chase, I assume his true identity Marc Spector - the mercenary - is the other persona. As long as they don't goof it up with too much dumb MCU humour, this dynamic could be fun to watch.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 13 Feb 2022, 05:43
Kevin Feige promises Moon Knight will be "brutal" and experimental.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/kevin-feige-moon-knight-disney-plus-loud-and-brutal-1235092511/

Here is a teaser poster for the show. If the dry blood splatter on the Crescent Dart is a sign for things to come, maybe Feige is serious. It should mean there won't be any problems bringing the original Daredevil Netflix show on Disney Plus, if MK is half as violent as that.

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYmZkYTY3YTctNTNkMS00NjZiLWIxMjMtMDY2NGJjNTFlZGU3XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMTM1MTE1NDMx._V1_.jpg)

Here is a better look at the costumes.

(https://whatsondisneyplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/empire-april-2022-subs-cover-mk.jpg)

(https://www.disneyplusinformer.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Moon-Knight-Empire-Cover.jpg)

(https://whatsondisneyplus.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/moon-knight-excl-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 15 Feb 2022, 00:41
I love how his cape transforms as a crescent moon as he jumps, very Batman like. And yes, this is typical MK imagery like in the comics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM3Yx-5Ymiw
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 17 Feb 2022, 23:07

Looks interesting.

Admittedly, I know very little of Moon Knight, but have always been aware of the character ever since I was a kid. Just wasn't something I read, and back then, my comic book pull list was enough as is without adding Moon Knight's on-off again title to it. Costume looks great, and I dug the trailer. I've considered possibly picking up the Volume 1 Marvel Epic Collection of Moon Knight, but just haven't pulled the trigger on that just yet.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 18 Feb 2022, 04:08
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 17 Feb  2022, 23:07Looks interesting.

Admittedly, I know very little of Moon Knight, but have always been aware of the character ever since I was a kid. Just wasn't something I read, and back then, my comic book pull list was enough as is without adding Moon Knight's on-off again title to it. Costume looks great, and I dug the trailer. I've considered possibly picking up the Volume 1 Marvel Epic Collection of Moon Knight, but just haven't pulled the trigger on that just yet.
Never was a big Moon Knight guy. Always thought the character had potential but most of it was never realized. Some characters are that way, waiting for the right creator to come along and give them the legitimacy they need. Wally West, Hal Jordan, Iron Man and others are all good examples of this.

Maybe MK will have his day in the comics after the show?
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 18 Feb 2022, 05:26
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 18 Feb  2022, 04:08
Never was a big Moon Knight guy. Always thought the character had potential but most of it was never realized. Some characters are that way, waiting for the right creator to come along and give them the legitimacy they need. Wally West, Hal Jordan, Iron Man and others are all good examples of this.

Maybe MK will have his day in the comics after the show?

I know what you mean.

As a kid, I was always aware of Moon Knight thanks mostly to his guest appearances, but just never really had the keen interest in reading. For some reason, I specifically remember Moon Knight getting some buzz during the early-mid 1990's due to artist Stephen Platt's covers (yes, this was during the Image era where stylized comic artists got A LOT of attention), but for the most part, MK was just kinda there to me. I liked his comic costume, I understood the concept (was aware of the Doug Moench connection due to reading '90's Batman titles to be perfectly honest), but due to MK's own book coming and going, I basically felt like he was something of a inconsequential Marvel character. Good for those interested, but not a major player in the Marvel Universe comics by any stretch of the imagination. 

We'll see how this goes. I haven't been too terribly interested in the bulk of Disney +'s MCU Shows, but this might just be an exception....
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: Travesty on Fri, 18 Feb 2022, 16:27
I'm extremely excited for this, although, I know next to nothing about Moon Knight other than a brief synopsis that I read. But I think this looks great.

I'll be watching, for sure.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 19 Feb 2022, 06:43
Here is a better look at the Moon Knight costume. I like it.

(https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/g_disneyplusoriginals_moonknight_20656_06_084713c7.jpeg)

Since Ethan Hawke plays the cult leader Arthur Darrow, this shot must be taking place at his temple/hideout.

I'm looking forward to seeing this show. Although, I hope it doesn't copy the same annoying Venom style of comedy with the voices in Marc Spector/Steven Grant's head, as we saw with Eddie Brock and Venom.

Here's another poster.

(https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/images/p_disneyplusoriginals_moonknight_v1_20656-1_a4b76256.jpeg)

https://disneyplusoriginals.disney.com/show/moon-knight?
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 07:46
Here is another look at the "Mr Knight" persona.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMvWQCzVUAIvirc?format=jpg&name=large)

Rumour has it that Mark Ruffalo might be reprising his role as Bruce Banner in an episode. Hopefully he doesn't come across as a goof this time.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 10 Mar 2022, 21:44
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 10 Mar  2022, 07:46
Here is another look at the "Mr Knight" persona.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMvWQCzVUAIvirc?format=jpg&name=large)

I saw this, and some people were comparing it to Janine Lindenmulder's appearance on a Blink-182 album cover back in the day.

(https://www.lifeandstylemag.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/janine-lindemulder-3.jpg)

;D


QuoteRumour has it that Mark Ruffalo might be reprising his role as Bruce Banner in an episode. Hopefully he doesn't come across as a goof this time.

That would be unexpected at this point, but a rather pleasant surprise.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 20 Mar 2022, 12:18
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 10 Mar  2022, 21:44
I saw this, and some people were comparing it to Janine Lindenmulder's appearance on a Blink-182 album cover back in the day.

Janine Lindemulder, now that's a name I haven't heard in ages!

This short featurette has the tone of the show being described as Fight Club and Indiana Jones. I can see why they'd mention Indy because of the whole Egypt backstory and the spirit of Khonshou, but I really doubt there is any inspiration taken from Fight Club. This reminds me of the same tired and baseless claim of an MCU movie taking inspiration from The Godfather. It's ridiculous, but blame Marvel's PR for putting the words in the actors' mouths.

https://youtu.be/YodHqxovMAU

With that all said, the show still looks very interesting and has a unique visual style. Ten days to go now.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 2 Apr 2022, 01:17
I watched the first episode.

It's a solid start so far, Ethan Hawke oozes creepiness as the cult leader Arthur Darrow, and the imagery between Khonshu and Steven Grant's sudden blacking out between scenes adds suspense.

My only complaint, though, is that Steven Grant's awkwardness reminds me a little bit of Tom Hardy's portrayal of Eddie Brock in Venom. Him as a goofy gift shop museum worker is obviously a far cry from the days when he was a Bruce Wayne-like billionaire in the early comics, but I think Isaac's English accent is fine. A lot of people complain how forced he is, but I've heard worse. I knew the MCU comedy influence wasn't ever going to go away completely, but as long as the show alternates between Steven and the more badass mercenary Marc Spector - which we got a taste of in the final moments of episode one - I will be satisfied.

I look forward to the next episode.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 7 Apr 2022, 04:18
I watched the second episode. It was alright, but Steven Grant's awkwardness is getting annoying. Episode got better when we saw more of the Marc Spector persona, who is more intense. The imagery of Khonshu is great and Ethan Hawke is still very solid as the villain as Arthur Harrow, menacing without overacting.

Next episode appears to focus on Egypt, maybe a backstory to how Marc Spector got brought back to life? Let's see.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: Travesty on Thu, 7 Apr 2022, 13:59
I'm liking it quite a bit. I think it's the best MCU show that Disney+ has made. I get the annoyance of Steven's awkwardness, but I think they're doing a good job of building up to Marc and Moon Knight. I like how Arthur knows Khonshu enough to repeat his talking points that Steven can hear. I do hope we start focusing on Marc a little more, though.

So far, so good.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 7 Apr 2022, 23:39
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat,  2 Apr  2022, 01:17
Ethan Hawke oozes creepiness as the cult leader Arthur Darrow.

Initially, I misread Arthur's last name as Darrow, when it's really Harrow. I definitely misread his name, I must've been thinking of Hugh Darrow, the villain from the game Deus Ex: Human Revolution. Gotta love the name Harrow, when the word itself means distressing and haunting. Classic comic book name.

Quote from: Travesty on Thu,  7 Apr  2022, 13:59
I'm liking it quite a bit. I think it's the best MCU show that Disney+ has made. I get the annoyance of Steven's awkwardness, but I think they're doing a good job of building up to Marc and Moon Knight. I like how Arthur knows Khonshu enough to repeat his talking points that Steven can hear. I do hope we start focusing on Marc a little more, though.

So far, so good.

Yeah, it's fair to point out they needed the distinguish the two personalities, so I definitely can't complain about the idea there. It's just that bit of MCU comedy recurring through Steven that makes me feel he's overstaying his welcome a bit. That sort of comedy was always going to be present, it's the MCU after all, but I believe it will be different with Marc.

Arthur being able to anticipate what Khonshu says without actually being able to hear him is a great scene, I agree.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 15 Apr 2022, 08:39
The third episode is the best one so far. As I had expected, the show gets better when Marc gets the focus. I liked the Ancient Egyptians subplot as Marc and his wife Layla travel around Cairo to search for Arthur and the sarcophagus. One of my friends told me the show takes a lot of liberties with the modern comics by adding supernatural elements such as the scene where Mr Knight and Khonshu change the sky to nighttime to find Ammit's tomb, but I'm fine with that as we immediately saw repercussions of taking that risk.

The Moon Knight fight scene was pretty cool, but I hope we don't see a recurring pattern of Mr Knight interrupting the action for a cheap laugh.

Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 1 May 2022, 01:20
Despite a huge lack of costume action, the last couple of episodes have been rather solid, and the latest episode does a great job in exploring Marc/Steven's backstory while going into surprisingly supernatural territory. Excellent performance by Oscar Isaac, he even humanised the Steven side as well. The goofy stuff with the talking hippo was a bit much though, but that's typical of the MCU nowadays.

I do wonder if the show will end on a satisfying note, though. There's only one more episode left to go, but there are a few things that need to be wrapped up. Here's hoping this mini-series has a great finale in store.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: Travesty on Thu, 5 May 2022, 13:23
I hated the ending. I don't think I've ever done a 180 on a show like this before? I was loving this up until the last few episodes.

Really disappointed in it.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 13 May 2022, 02:14
I thought the last episode was okay, but I there were some editing, scene transition issues that bogged it down. LITTLE SPOILER: I didn't care for the revelation that Jake Lockley came in as a mid-credit scene. The should've come in as the last scene of the finale.

Moon Knight was watchable thanks to Oscar Isaac and Ethan Hawke. They carried the show. The whole series was solid, and I thought the exploration of the two personalities in Steven and Marc in the penultimate episode was done very well, but the show definitely could've been better in other aspects. It was perhaps a little too experimental and even too psychological if you were hoping for more costume action. And yes, some of the eye-rolling MCU cheese is there, though not quite as bad in other movies and shows. But it still caused some tonal problems, which has become an issue the MCU has had for years.

I believe Isaac will return at some point in the future. Rumour has it he will team up with Mahershala Ali's Blade in Midnight Suns.

One more bit of observation about a moment in the finale: Moon Knight flying across Egypt in the shape of a crescent moon reminded me of his Mooncopter in the comics.
Title: Re: Moon Knight (Disney Plus)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 6 Sep 2022, 14:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIQc2g4tWi0

https://youtu.be/zaJ7dReNFYM