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I've allowed you to change votes, so it would be great if some of you could offer a explanation as to your choice so we can get an idea what the general feeling is.  :)

I've chosen Black Mask, mainly because he's one of the most interesting, and nastiest, of the Batman rogues we've yet to see on the big-screen, and I think a character who starts off as a contemporary/school-peer/rival businessman to Bruce Wayne would make for a fascinating dynamic, especially if a similarly handsome and charismatic actor to Affleck was chosen for the part (imagine how awesome Matt Damon would be as Roman Sionis!)

That said, I'd also want to see Catwoman incorporated into any story featuring Black Mask, and although I'd disagree, some people might feel that it was too early to introduce a new big-screen Catwoman after 2012's TDKR.  Personally, I'd love to see Olga Kurylenko or Affleck's rumoured current girl-friend, Charlize Theron, play Catwoman, as they're both only a few years younger than Affleck, and more than capable of playing a feisty and ultra-athletic anti-heroine.

I'd like to see them follow up on Robin's 'death' and bring Red Hood into the mix at some point. And I also like the idea of exploring some of the more outlandish characters who were excluded from Nolan's trilogy: Clayface, Mr. Freeze, Man-Bat, the Court of Owls, etc.

However, if I could only pick one villain I think it would have to be... the Riddler. For several reasons. Firstly, there's never been a dark cinematic version of Nygma before now. Secondly, it's been over 20 years since we last saw him on the big screen. And thirdly, it would make a nice payoff for the Riddler Easter egg in Batman v Superman.

I know it's trendy at the moment to stuff these films with as many characters as possible, but I prefer the idea of a more focused, streamlined narrative where Batman faces just one main opponent. We haven't seen that since Batman 89. I don't mind a lesser known adversary like Amygdala or Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's Killer Croc providing some extra muscle for Batman to fight, but only in a minor supporting role. As far as the main antagonist goes, I think there should just be one. And Riddler's the perfect candidate.

I want Clayface so bad, but I know we'll get The Joker.

I have a feeling we're only getting one solo movie out of Affleck.

Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 13 Apr  2016, 17:11I have a feeling we're only getting one solo movie out of Affleck.

Me too.  :(  But I'm sure if it's as good as we hope/expect, and it makes a ton of money, WB will do practically anything to keep him for a follow-up/follow-ups.

At age 44 Affleck is already the oldest actor to play Batman (Keaton was second at age 41) so it depends how long he can handle the physicality.

Hoping for no joker, catwoman, two face, or bane as we've seen them all at least twice. I'd prefer to see a villain never portrayed live before, my choice would be the mad hatter.

The solo film will be the end of his run, probably. But that would've been five appearances, more than any other live action Batman.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 00:00
The solo film will be the end of his run, probably. But that would've been five appearances, more than any other live action Batman.

I think Affleck's Batman deserves to be seen in some really good movies so I'm hoping that he'll make more than one solo movie.  He isn't that old, and he's most likely in better shape than most men half his age.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 00:00
The solo film will be the end of his run, probably. But that would've been five appearances, more than any other live action Batman.

Yeah, I know, but when you see someone like RDJ with Iron Man, he had a full trilogy, and then he'll be in 5 different teamup movies. So overall, he has a prominent role in 8 MCU movies.

I was just hoping we would get a trilogy, but I just have that feeling like the solo will be it. But who knows, maybe that will change if the solo movie is a success.

I'd be cool if we held off from seeing Scarecrow or Ra's for awhile after how prominent they were in the previous trilogy.

We know from the trailers that Joker and Harley will encounter Batman. Hope we'll see Affleck's Batman face off against Deadshot and Killer Croc too (and maybe even encounter Katana), either in Suicide Squad or in a later film.

As for new villains, maybe it's from watching Gotham lately but I'd love to see Penguin, Riddler, or Hugo Strange up against Affleck's Batman. While Robin Lord Taylor has an interesting take on Penguin, we haven't had a traditional Penguin onscreen since Burgess Meredith. SN is right that we haven't seen a cinematic "dark" Riddler. Corey Michael Smith on Gotham is the closest though I personally think they went a little too far with the serial killer angle. And Hugo Strange has never been on the big screen before (though BD Wong is doing an excellent job playing him and I'm having trouble thinking of another actor who could take it on right now).

Would also love to see Selina since that ties into Bruce's "I've known a few women like you" line from BvS (and they should actually call her Catwoman this time :))

Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 01:47

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 00:00
The solo film will be the end of his run, probably. But that would've been five appearances, more than any other live action Batman.

Yeah, I know, but when you see someone like RDJ with Iron Man, he had a full trilogy, and then he'll be in 5 different teamup movies. So overall, he has a prominent role in 8 MCU movies.

I was just hoping we would get a trilogy, but I just have that feeling like the solo will be it. But who knows, maybe that will change if the solo movie is a success.

I basically consider BvS a Batman solo film, given Fleck's screentime. Justice League One will have him playing a heavy role, seeking these super powered suckers out. But yeah, more Fleck the better. He's the best of the lot.

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 07:53
I'd be cool if we held off from seeing Scarecrow or Ra's for awhile after how prominent they were in the previous trilogy.

We know from the trailers that Joker and Harley will encounter Batman. Hope we'll see Affleck's Batman face off against Deadshot and Killer Croc too (and maybe even encounter Katana), either in Suicide Squad or in a later film.

As for new villains, maybe it's from watching Gotham lately but I'd love to see Penguin, Riddler, or Hugo Strange up against Affleck's Batman. While Robin Lord Taylor has an interesting take on Penguin, we haven't had a traditional Penguin onscreen since Burgess Meredith. SN is right that we haven't seen a cinematic "dark" Riddler. Corey Michael Smith on Gotham is the closest though I personally think they went a little too far with the serial killer angle. And Hugo Strange has never been on the big screen before (though BD Wong is doing an excellent job playing him and I'm having trouble thinking of another actor who could take it on right now).

Would also love to see Selina since that ties into Bruce's "I've known a few women like you" line from BvS (and they should actually call her Catwoman this time :))

Happy someone else said it. Yes, the "Gotham" versions of these characters are excellent.

I'd like to see Riddler, Two Face, Mad Hatter, Man Bat, Clayface, some of the more cartoony and extravagant ones that either have never been done, or never been done "properly".

Theron would be an excellent Catwoman. She looks the part, she's a great actress, she has the right age for Affleck's Batman, she has action movie credentials.

Does anybody else think it would be too weird if Hush was a villain? Can you imagine what the confusion among the general audience would be if there was a scene where Bruce sees his own reflection as soon as Hush reveals his surgically modified face, similar to the sidequest scene in Arkham City? It would give Affleck a chance to chew the scene up a bit.  :D

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Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 14:17
Does anybody else think it would be too weird if Hush was a villain? Can you imagine what the confusion among the general audience would be if there was a scene where Bruce sees his own reflection as soon as Hush reveals his surgically modified face, similar to the sidequest scene in Arkham City? It would give Affleck a chance to chew the scene up a bit.  :D

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Is Hush meant to look like Ben Affleck or is it just a coincidence?  ;D

Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 01:47

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 00:00
The solo film will be the end of his run, probably. But that would've been five appearances, more than any other live action Batman.

Yeah, I know, but when you see someone like RDJ with Iron Man, he had a full trilogy, and then he'll be in 5 different teamup movies. So overall, he has a prominent role in 8 MCU movies.

I was just hoping we would get a trilogy, but I just have that feeling like the solo will be it. But who knows, maybe that will change if the solo movie is a success.

You're right but Iron man is slightly easier in the sense that RDJ is rarely in the suit since the characters entire body is covered (only when he shows his face). Batman is a different animal. That being said Batman is not always fighting or doing physical things, there's the detective aspect. It really depends how the next film goes, if it underwhelms the way BvS did, Affleck will bow out. I understand and respect where he's coming from, he loved the Daredevil character and so he took it to heart when that film failed initially refusing any sequel or any superhero film again.

Quote from: riddler on Thu, 14 Apr  2016, 14:56You're right but Iron man is slightly easier in the sense that RDJ is rarely in the suit since the characters entire body is covered (only when he shows his face). Batman is a different animal. That being said Batman is not always fighting or doing physical things, there's the detective aspect. It really depends how the next film goes, if it underwhelms the way BvS did, Affleck will bow out. I understand and respect where he's coming from, he loved the Daredevil character and so he took it to heart when that film failed initially refusing any sequel or any superhero film again.

One of the major differences here is that Affleck has been almost universally acclaimed as Batman, whereas his performance as Daredevil, whilst by no means one of the most criticised aspects of the film, mainly got lukewarm notices.  And now that Affleck is established as an acclaimed filmmaker in his own right, with a 100% batting average so far behind-the-camera, there is no reason to think that his solo Batman film will fail or underwhelm.  In fact, it might even benefit from lower expectations following BvS's performance.

http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/01/you-will-probably-see-your-favorite-villain-in-afflecks-batman-movie

Latest rumor is that the movie will feature several Batman villains. I wouldn't be surprised if Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley show up. This may have the feeling of a Jeph Loeb Batman comic, where multiple villains play small roles along the way.

When I heard this rumour the first story to pop into my head was Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. WB has a problem with their DC movies going over budget, so a more claustrophobic setting would help keep costs down.

I'm hoping they'll have Batman trapped in Arkham or some similarly unpleasant environment, having to fight his way through a gauntlet of classic foes. Tonally it would be a cross between Game of Death and The Temple of Doom, with a heavy dose of the Arkham games thrown in for good measure.

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Tue,  3 May  2016, 16:47
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/05/01/you-will-probably-see-your-favorite-villain-in-afflecks-batman-movie

Latest rumor is that the movie will feature several Batman villains. I wouldn't be surprised if Leto's Joker and Robbie's Harley show up. This may have the feeling of a Jeph Loeb Batman comic, where multiple villains play small roles along the way.

He did Long Halloween right? I would love to see that adapted as a movie but it would be impossible to do justice unless it was released over the course of like 3 movies or something.

I like the idea of Hush as a live action nemesis too. I usually hate mistaken identity stories but that one could be interesting maybe. I didn't realize Hush is in Arkham City, I need to play the story on that game. I remember there being a Riddle about Tommy Elliott in Asylum though I think?

I really want to see Mr. Freeze done right, I doubt he would be the villain in the first movie (unless it's the ensemble dealio) but the second, if there is a second, he could be perfect. Maybe we can snatch Patrick Stewart from Marvel like Ben and JK Simmons and have him play Freeze. Or someone else, but it needs to be the "Heart of Ice" type Freeze. Not Arnie on Ice.

I'd like to see Pam in a movie again too.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Tue,  3 May  2016, 17:09
When I heard this rumour the first story to pop into my head was Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. WB has a problem with their DC movies going over budget, so a more claustrophobic setting would help keep costs down.

I'm hoping they'll have Batman trapped in Arkham or some similarly unpleasant environment, having to fight his way through a gauntlet of classic foes. Tonally it would be a cross between Game of Death and The Temple of Doom, with a heavy dose of the Arkham games thrown in for good measure.

Keeping the whole movie within the creepy confines of Arkham would be really cool. Once it's over and he's won and steps out for fresh air and sees the city across the river (I would have Arkham be one massive building instead several buildings on one island to keep him from going outdoors until the end) there's this sense of relief and breathing for the audience too.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Tue,  3 May  2016, 17:09
When I heard this rumour the first story to pop into my head was Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. WB has a problem with their DC movies going over budget, so a more claustrophobic setting would help keep costs down.

I'm hoping they'll have Batman trapped in Arkham or some similarly unpleasant environment, having to fight his way through a gauntlet of classic foes. Tonally it would be a cross between Game of Death and The Temple of Doom, with a heavy dose of the Arkham games thrown in for good measure.

I agree that if Affleck is looking at incorporating multiple villains in his Batman film, an Arkham Asylum set story makes the most sense.

It does however sound like it will be a one-off movie for Affleck however, since a multi-villain movie leaves less room for novelty when it comes to sequels.  Plus, although I'm sure Affleck will be attract top talent in view of his reputation as a filmmaker, I do wonder if a multi-villain movie might not only be overcrowded but also skewed to less high-profile actors/actresses since it's unlikely that a Nicholson or Carrey-sized star would want to share the screen with half a dozen other rogues.

Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 13 Apr  2016, 17:11
I want Clayface so bad, but I know we'll get The Joker.

I would love to see Clayface as well. If we're going with a Arkham setting, where alot of villains are to be featured, I could kinda see them going with the Preston Payne Clayface route, kinda like in Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum, but ideally, a more Matt Hagen/Basil Karlo shapeshifting Clayface would be right on the money. I've been wanting to see that in live action ever since I first watched the 2-part "Feat of Clay" episodes from Batman the Animated Seris back in the day.

Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Tue,  3 May  2016, 17:09
When I heard this rumour the first story to pop into my head was Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. WB has a problem with their DC movies going over budget, so a more claustrophobic setting would help keep costs down.

I'm hoping they'll have Batman trapped in Arkham or some similarly unpleasant environment, having to fight his way through a gauntlet of classic foes. Tonally it would be a cross between Game of Death and The Temple of Doom, with a heavy dose of the Arkham games thrown in for good measure.

My thoughts too.

Quote from: Catwoman on Tue,  3 May  2016, 17:13
Keeping the whole movie within the creepy confines of Arkham would be really cool. Once it's over and he's won and steps out for fresh air and sees the city across the river (I would have Arkham be one massive building instead several buildings on one island to keep him from going outdoors until the end) there's this sense of relief and breathing for the audience too.

That would be the perfect ending. Have Batman emerge from the shadows into the daylight, basking in the warmth of the sun like Andy Dufresne embracing the rain in The Shawshank Redemption.