http://joequinones.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/batman-89.html (http://joequinones.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/batman-89.html)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CIdECjKwvj8/Vt-FbefYatI/AAAAAAAADfc/eZ6nJ6Bn1p8/s640/tumblr_o3qrjlg77b1r3j9f2o1_1280.jpg)
So sad this never happened.
WHOA. Great find, Johnny. It's a real shame that wasn't produced.
Kinda curious who Babs was meant to be modeled after.
Is Barbara Gordon supposed to be Christina Ricci?
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 9 Mar 2016, 07:15
Is Barbara Gordon supposed to be Christina Ricci?
It does look a bit like her, and would probably make sense considering that Ricci appeared in one of Burton's later movies, Sleepy Hollow (I'm assuming the comics were intended to be faithful to Burton's aesthetics and representative of the type of approach he might have taken had he continued with the franchise).
Great find. That cover is lovely. Fingers crossed something like this gets off the ground one of these days.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 9 Mar 2016, 07:26
Great find. That cover is lovely. Fingers crossed something like this gets off the ground one of these days.
It would be great if some of us could post some messages on the linked site and demonstrate that there is a demand out there for this (certainly among us lot...and I suspect many of the people who bought the Batman '66 limited comic-book series).
But the fact that this idea was even proposed at all, by accomplished comic-book artists at that, does at least increase the likelihood that perhaps, as you say, it might get off the ground one day. :)
Judging by the look of Joe Quinones' illustration of Poison Ivy, I gather this is supposed to be modeled after Geena Davis.
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-CIW-jPmxTTg%2FVt-FbBZx35I%2FAAAAAAAADfg%2Fb6hpFU2GePQ%2Fs1600%2Ftumblr_o3qrjlg77b1r3j9f2o3_1280.jpg&hash=8c55a28cb9cca8280d150c16120c7e61b574ccc0)
My only guess why this project got turned down was because any character designs that resembled these actors would require royalties. I remember DocLathropBrown saying in the Suicide Squad thread last year that Jack Nicholson had a clause written in his contract that said he earned the right to be paid if any other live action adaptation of the Joker resembled his portrayal. Perhaps B66 didn't have to worry about such legal issues?
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 9 Mar 2016, 09:35
My only guess why this project got turned down was because any character designs that resembled these actors would require royalties. I remember DocLathropBrown saying in the Suicide Squad thread last year that Jack Nicholson had a clause written in his contract that he earned the right to be paid if any other live action adaptation of the Joker resembled his portrayal. Perhaps B66 didn't have to worry such legal issues?
That's very interesting.
I'd hate to think that we're going to have to wait until all the main Batman and Batman Returns actors/actresses are dead before we could have such a comic-book. :-\
Also, that's a very perceptive observation in suggesting that Quinones' illustration resembles Geena Davis. Now I think of it, you're 100% right. :) He has even captured Davis' beauty mark in exactly the right place. The only difference I think is that Geena seems taller and her thighs seem less broad than this Poison Ivy.
And for what it's worth, I think Geena would have been a great choice for Poison Ivy during the 1990s. I'd like to think that such a film exists in some alternate universe out there.
I added it as a news story
http://www.batman-online.com/news/2016/3/9/burtonverse-batman-comic-pitch-was-turned-down-by-dc
Let see if we can't get a little steam behind it.
great find Johnny!
Dear comic book writers of the past now editors in charge of publishing;
I'm sure sorry you hated what Burton produced in the 1980s while you were writing comic books/thumping your comic strip bible, but now that you run the show, do you think maybe you could not cut the sack off of this property, a virtual guaranteed hit in the market/demographic of...I guess you call it the 'lowest common denominator'...that's the internet speak for the people that ACTUALLY decide what's successful with their wallets. We out here, who watch all the comic book movies, but dare to have a healthy but Laissez-faire relationship with comic-book lore/GOSPEL, well you see, crazy at it might seem...
We still like Mr. Mom as Batman and don't care how much it ruined your lives 30 years ago. We still exist and in far greater numbers than you might realize. We would gladly buy this...
Hope my rant didn't offend, but I'm done. I'll go about my day now, and let you get back to thinking that Wolverine in yellow spandex in a mask in a major motion picture is still the only way to go.
Regards, Mike aka "Crazy fanboy in minority."
In all seriousness, I mean no offense, but my knee, damn if it didn't jerk hard this morning.
I wouldn't rule out something like this happening in the future, but I don't think DC will be commissioning it any time soon. Remember back when Nolan's trilogy was being released and Warner Bros/DC seemed to intentionally downplay the previous adaptations to the point of ignoring them? We've enjoyed a respite from that single-track approach since 2012, what with a renewed emphasis on celebrating the sixties Batman and even some Burton-themed DLC for Batman videogames. But I expect that's going to change with the introduction of the DCEU Batman.
WB/DC cancelled Smallville when Man of Steel went into production (supposedly they'd intended to cancel it when Superman Returns came out, but Bryan Singer intervened), they abandoned the Dick Grayson prequel series at the behest of Nolan, and they've lately cancelled the Batman 66 comic just in time for Batman v Superman. Some of these things may be coincidental, but rumours abound that WB/DC don't want more than one version of each hero in the media spotlight at any one time. They may make an exception in the case of the CW DC shows, but I doubt they'd extend that clemency to older incarnations like Burton's Batman. I'd imagine that for the next few years at least, Batfleck will be the only media incarnation we'll be seeing in the comics.
But I could be wrong. There's certainly no harm in drumming up online support for this and seeing what happens.
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1265.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj518%2FDarkMisa666%2Fnojmz1vwhavk3amtmvnu_zps4kolw1wc.jpg&hash=4fe533f8e8604970a819e38dffef8a1691703840) (http://s1265.photobucket.com/user/DarkMisa666/media/nojmz1vwhavk3amtmvnu_zps4kolw1wc.jpg.html)
I love BatGirl's bat poncho.
So Lee Bermejo posted this on his twitter. Not sure if it means anything, but he dropped this tweet with this pic.
leebermejoart: This guy again.... He keeps following me around. #workinprogress #whatmightthisbe #whatshepullingdownaftertaxes #ifyouraregoingtotakeapictureofmeyouregoingtoneeda longlense
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2F085effd26ed1b94d2750875018a13e63%2Ftumblr_of43937usO1s7d3cpo1_1280.jpg&hash=4638bfac6da389b4f73b640159751bc7b4e47002)
Fingers crossed.
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 19 Oct 2016, 20:15
So Lee Bermejo posted this on his twitter. Not sure if it means anything, but he dropped this tweet with this pic.
leebermejoart: This guy again.... He keeps following me around. #workinprogress #whatmightthisbe #whatshepullingdownaftertaxes #ifyouraregoingtotakeapictureofmeyouregoingtoneeda longlense
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2F085effd26ed1b94d2750875018a13e63%2Ftumblr_of43937usO1s7d3cpo1_1280.jpg&hash=4638bfac6da389b4f73b640159751bc7b4e47002)
Lee Bermejo revealed the artwork in its entirety on Instagram last week. Unfortunately, it was never drawn for the proposed Batman '89 comic book. It was intended as a Mondo poster, but it never got approved either.
(https://i.imgur.com/jen1bf4.jpg)
Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B97RrCai7pQ/
It's a great poster. According to Bermejo on his Instagram comment, he seemed to have added the Joker's face inside Batman's cape and on his knees. Quite the optical illusion.
Bermejo is the real deal. Seriously enjoy his stuff. Good find!
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 13:59
Bermejo is the real deal. Seriously enjoy his stuff. Good find!
He really is. From the modern era, Bermejo and Jim Lee are in a league of their own.
The art below speaks for itself:
(https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/c/cf/Secret_Origins_Vol_3_2_Textless.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140528212646)
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 13:59
Bermejo is the real deal.
He certainly is. I love his JL film tribute he drew a few years ago.
(https://i.imgur.com/JyE8J4e.jpg)
He even went out of his way to draw this picture as homage to the iconic (yet criminally deleted) shot of Batfleck.
(https://i.imgur.com/bqNDdD9.jpg)
(https://img.purch.com/o/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5uZXdzYXJhbWEuY29tL2ltYWdlcy9pLzAwMC8xOTQvMjE1L2kwMi9CYXRtYW5fSkwuanBn)
If Keaton does reprise the role again, in whatever capacity, this comic needs to be greenlit.
Imagine reading the most significant moments in Batman's career that would've taken place post-Returns. Wow.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 11:15
If Keaton does reprise the role again, in whatever capacity, this comic needs to be greenlit.
Imagine reading the most significant moments in Batman's career that would've taken place post-Returns. Wow.
I think an official announcement, and any and all info on every comic issue's subsequent solicitation and release date, would have a lot of us here like these guys.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Twd9sXfd/Attention-Attention.gif)
Quote from: The Joker on Fri, 3 Jul 2020, 20:48
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 24 Jun 2020, 11:15
If Keaton does reprise the role again, in whatever capacity, this comic needs to be greenlit.
Imagine reading the most significant moments in Batman's career that would've taken place post-Returns. Wow.
I think an official announcement, and any and all info on every comic issue's subsequent solicitation and release date, would have a lot of us here like these guys.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Twd9sXfd/Attention-Attention.gif)
You ain't just whistling Dixie.
If Keaton is announced, they'll do a catch up series. The more on the minds of the consumer he is, the more they'll be amenable to this kind of marketing. Looking forward to some kind of official confirmation. I hear the Fandom thing in August might be where we get it, if indeed Keaton's return is happening. From there, hopefully we'll get our fix.
Quote from: Gotham Knight on Tue, 7 Jul 2020, 13:50
I hear the Fandom thing in August might be where we get it, if indeed Keaton's return is happening. From there, hopefully we'll get our fix.
Yes. We are in limbo until then. A comic series that leads up to a hypothetical Flashpoint movie would be the best marketing I can think of. BvS had a limited comic series which I consider canon. B66 had a large run not long ago. If we couldn't have a long term, ongoing project, I'd go with the key events in his life and strive for quality. A time jump of roughly five years between issues. Robin's appearance (and disappearance?), whatever happened with Selina (marriage?/child?), Alfred's death and Bruce's struggles with older age. A one-shot focused on BDW's Harvey Dent would be a logical choice somewhere in there too.
To elaborate further on what TDK said, the idea of how events, characters, and relationships played out in Keaton's Batman's life between the timeline of Post-Batman Returns to Batman Beyond, is fun and interesting to think about. That's A LOT of time that could be delved into, and being that this is the Burtonverse, there are many opportunities to explore. Especially if a potential series gets a run akin to the '66 comic books.
Who's the say that Vicki Vale didn't return to Gotham right around the time that Selina entered Bruce's life again? Causing a love triangle of sorts. Perhaps a Burtonverse Killer Croc was/is affiliated with the Penguin's Red Triangle Circus Gang in some capacity? When did the Jokerz gang first emerge in the Burtonverse?
There's so much alternate history to explore with this.
Quote from: The Joker on Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 01:34
To elaborate further on what TDK said, the idea of how events, characters, and relationships played out in Keaton's Batman's life between the timeline of Post-Batman Returns to Batman Beyond, is fun and interesting to think about. That's A LOT of time that could be delved into, and being that this is the Burtonverse, there are many opportunities to explore. Especially if a potential series gets a run akin to the '66 comic books.
Who's the say that Vicki Vale didn't return to Gotham right around the time that Selina entered Bruce's life again? Causing a love triangle of sorts. Perhaps a Burtonverse Killer Croc was/is affiliated with the Penguin's Red Triangle Circus Gang in some capacity? When did the Jokerz gang first emerge in the Burtonverse?
There's so much alternate history to explore with this.
Definitely. Depending on how this iteration is worked in I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find that things haven't worked out for Keaton's Batman. Maybe there is a tragedy that focuses on the inclusion of a Robin going wrong and the failed attempt at training a protege creates an enemy. Or maybe there was no Robin. Maybe, we look at Batman's lone war and continue the trend of of RETURNS which shows a man becoming increasing isolated.
If a B89 comic ever gets made, I think it might be sort of fun to go in a 100% oppose direction from the established canon. There are a lot of live action Batmen who follow the canon. Some closer than others but there are plenty of options out there.
So a B89 comic where the Burton continuity moves in its own direction is intriguing to me. After Batman Returns, I don't necessarily need to see Burton's Robin or Nightwing or something anyway. So maybe create some original villains or supporting characters. Or perhaps allude to Bruce briefly giving up Batman for a mayoral run of his own to counter Chip Shrek's handpicked candidate. Alternatively, maybe the police continued pursuing Batman after the murder of the Ice Princess since he was never really exonerated? Something else, maybe a Punisher-like vigilante came to Gotham and showed Bruce his own worst nature?
Don't get me wrong, I love the comics but there might be an opportunity here to do something truly unique and original with Burton's Batman.
Or maybe everything I just wrote is a really bad idea...
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 18:34
If a B89 comic ever gets made, I think it might be sort of fun to go in a 100% oppose direction from the established canon. There are a lot of live action Batmen who follow the canon. Some closer than others but there are plenty of options out there.
That has basis in logic, given the plan for Marlon Wayans to be Robin, and the fact BDW was Harvey Dent. Burton apparently wanted BDW for the black and white concept, meaning the scarring would've been much different. Overall, I would take the supernatural weirdness that BR explored and run with it.
It's interesting trying to fill in the Burtonverse gaps because B89 and BR were more or less constructed as stand-alones. I think the gaps weren't ever really meant to be filled, which makes the timeline so mysterious and alluring.
Much like the B66 series, doing a comic years after the fact feels like a tribute act, rather than like a pure continuation. But if we want an extension of the world it can't be anything else right now. Depending on the quality, we could accept or decline canon status as we pleased. So hopefully they do it – there's nothing to lose.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 15 Jul 2020, 18:34
If a B89 comic ever gets made, I think it might be sort of fun to go in a 100% oppose direction from the established canon. There are a lot of live action Batmen who follow the canon. Some closer than others but there are plenty of options out there.
So a B89 comic where the Burton continuity moves in its own direction is intriguing to me. After Batman Returns, I don't necessarily need to see Burton's Robin or Nightwing or something anyway. So maybe create some original villains or supporting characters. Or perhaps allude to Bruce briefly giving up Batman for a mayoral run of his own to counter Chip Shrek's handpicked candidate. Alternatively, maybe the police continued pursuing Batman after the murder of the Ice Princess since he was never really exonerated? Something else, maybe a Punisher-like vigilante came to Gotham and showed Bruce his own worst nature?
Don't get me wrong, I love the comics but there might be an opportunity here to do something truly unique and original with Burton's Batman.
Or maybe everything I just wrote is a really bad idea...
Nice ideas, but the only suggestion I have an issue with is the police going after Batman. I think the Batsignal lighting up in the end of BR implies that he had been cleared of any wrongdoing. Mask of the Phantasm ended exactly the same, we never really saw Batman exonerated for the Valestra mob murders, but the Batsignal shining up in the sky at the end had indicated he cleared his name.
If this comic were to ever get up and running, I wonder if DC Comics would have to pay any royalties for using Michael Gough and Pat Hingle's likenesses to their estates? Assuming if a legal requirement does exist.
I've read rumours that Sam Hamm devised a back story for the 1989 Bruce, which he subsequently used as the basis of 'Blind Justice' (Detective Comics Vol 1 #598-600, March-May 1989), which in turn influenced Batman Begins. It might be an idea to go back to Hamm and ask for his input on a potential comic series. However if a comic were to be published, I wouldn't want it to focus on origin stories for movie characters. I would like to see flashbacks depicting a pre-1989 Keaton-Bruce learning the ropes, but I want to see them in a Batman Beyond movie, not a comic. I'm not too bothered about what happened to Oswald between the time he was dumped in the sewers and the time he resurfaced to plague Gotham; I can infer all that from the hints dropped in the movie.
I'd rather a comic series told tales about new characters, or built upon outstanding plot points that were never resolved in the films. Let's see how Ratcatcher and Kite Man's costumes ended up displayed in Wayne Manor. Let's see how Knox's career was affected once his Batman story was validated by the wider press. Let's see how Gordon and the GCPD regained Batman's trust after falsely blaming him for the Ice Princess' death. I'd like to see Burtonised versions of Scarecrow, Man-Bat, Solomon Grundy and the Court of Owls. Remember back in 'Night of the Owls: Gangland Style' (Birds of Prey Vol 3 #9, July 2012) where Starling explicitly describes one of the Talons as resembling a Tim Burton creation?
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhR7Fn2F/starling1.png)
Later she makes a joke about how she hopes he looks like Johnny Depp under his mask.
(https://i.postimg.cc/XvxN6WMY/starling2.png)
This kind of gothic supernatural material is a no-brainer for a Burton Batman series. I'd love to see a comic set around Halloween where Keaton's Batman and Hingle's Gordon have to contend with the Court of Owls. We're never going to see that in a movie (maybe with Pattinson, but not with Keaton) so we may as well see it in a comic.
Batman was armored, Joker was scarred. Catwoman's costume was as fragile as her psyche. Penguin was deliberately unattractive.
Burton had said that Two Face would have had black on one side and white on the other.
I always thought Poison Ivy would be scantily clad and more plant like, with green skin and petals for hair (changing length at will).
Mr. Freeze would have had a ice/steampunk outfit.
How do you think other characters would have been "Burtonized" had the movies continued?
Quote from: GBglide on Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 01:54
Batman was armored, Joker was scarred. Catwoman's costume was as fragile as her psyche. Penguin was deliberately unattractive.
Burton had said that Two Face would have had black on one side and white on the other.
Really? I wonder if that's where BTAS got the idea for Two-Face from.
Quote from: GBglide on Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 01:54
How do you think other characters would have been "Burtonized" had the movies continued?
I read that Burton wanted to shave the Riddler's head into a question mark, but I don't know if that's true. Jim Carrey wanted to do the same, but he couldn't because he had to attend court for divorce proceedings.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112462/trivia
Some artists drew up their interpretation of what Burton's third Batman might've been, as you can see in this example below.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b148d284-829d-47c8-aa6a-dbd9fc935b83/d32sdce-c629c624-fb19-4999-9c02-f1e27863620e.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjE0OGQyODQtODI5ZC00N2M4LWFhNmEtZGJkOWZjOTM1YjgzXC9kMzJzZGNlLWM2MjljNjI0LWZiMTktNDk5OS05YzAyLWYxZTI3ODYzNjIwZS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.sr693Bhr5sBDnPNLq4mhTjRZaDerQCRkfbiDrEC8tBI)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b148d284-829d-47c8-aa6a-dbd9fc935b83/d1asg5y-b9851317-4106-4a0f-8d59-e8a7576db5ed.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjE0OGQyODQtODI5ZC00N2M4LWFhNmEtZGJkOWZjOTM1YjgzXC9kMWFzZzV5LWI5ODUxMzE3LTQxMDYtNGEwZi04ZDU5LWU4YTc1NzZkYjVlZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.oEPT4f0sjXLbClfKI88W_g3ooLUhQoF01kfvRbELiAs)
https://www.deviantart.com/micromaned/art/Tim-Burton-s-Batman-Forever-78589654
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Jul 2020, 05:36
Quote from: GBglide on Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 01:54
Batman was armored, Joker was scarred. Catwoman's costume was as fragile as her psyche. Penguin was deliberately unattractive.
Burton had said that Two Face would have had black on one side and white on the other.
Really? I wonder if that's where BTAS got the idea for Two-Face from.
Quote from: GBglide on Wed, 22 Jul 2020, 01:54
How do you think other characters would have been "Burtonized" had the movies continued?
I read that Burton wanted to shave the Riddler's head into a question mark, but I don't know if that's true. Jim Carrey wanted to do the same, but he couldn't because he had to attend court for divorce proceedings.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112462/trivia
Some artists drew up their interpretation of what Burton's third Batman might've been, as you can see in this example below.
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b148d284-829d-47c8-aa6a-dbd9fc935b83/d32sdce-c629c624-fb19-4999-9c02-f1e27863620e.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjE0OGQyODQtODI5ZC00N2M4LWFhNmEtZGJkOWZjOTM1YjgzXC9kMzJzZGNlLWM2MjljNjI0LWZiMTktNDk5OS05YzAyLWYxZTI3ODYzNjIwZS5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.sr693Bhr5sBDnPNLq4mhTjRZaDerQCRkfbiDrEC8tBI)
(https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/b148d284-829d-47c8-aa6a-dbd9fc935b83/d1asg5y-b9851317-4106-4a0f-8d59-e8a7576db5ed.png?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOiIsImlzcyI6InVybjphcHA6Iiwib2JqIjpbW3sicGF0aCI6IlwvZlwvYjE0OGQyODQtODI5ZC00N2M4LWFhNmEtZGJkOWZjOTM1YjgzXC9kMWFzZzV5LWI5ODUxMzE3LTQxMDYtNGEwZi04ZDU5LWU4YTc1NzZkYjVlZC5wbmcifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6ZmlsZS5kb3dubG9hZCJdfQ.oEPT4f0sjXLbClfKI88W_g3ooLUhQoF01kfvRbELiAs)
https://www.deviantart.com/micromaned/art/Tim-Burton-s-Batman-Forever-78589654
I always assumed Harvey was black in the animated series because of Billy Dee's casting in the 89 film.
Quote from: BatmanFurst on Sat, 25 Jul 2020, 20:12
I always assumed Harvey was black in the animated series because of Billy Dee's casting in the 89 film.
People have been debating that ever since BTAS first aired.
I was looking at Joe Quinones's Twitter page the other day and saw this nice sketch of Batman and Robin, starring Michael Keaton and Marlon Wayans. 8)
(https://i.imgur.com/P00Hpi8.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Joe_Quinones/status/1275808811429826561
Yeah, you can tell this guy is a huge Burton Batman fan. I love the detail he puts into drawing Wayans's features onto the Robin suit.
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D21WX9/meh-geld-mo-money-johnny-damon-wayans-und-seymour-marlon-wayans-local-D21WX9.jpg)
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 28 Jul 2020, 13:28
I was looking at Joe Quinones's Twitter page the other day and saw this nice sketch of Batman and Robin, starring Michael Keaton and Marlon Wayans. 8)
(https://i.imgur.com/P00Hpi8.jpg)
https://twitter.com/Joe_Quinones/status/1275808811429826561
Yeah, you can tell this guy is a huge Burton Batman fan. I love the detail he puts into drawing Wayans's features onto the Robin suit.
(https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D21WX9/meh-geld-mo-money-johnny-damon-wayans-und-seymour-marlon-wayans-local-D21WX9.jpg)
That is cool! 8)
Comic book artist Chris Samnee shared his artwork of Keaton's Batman on social media, while paying homage to Prince by writing "Tonight I'm gonna party like it's 1989".
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee1XHUvXoAEWTOk?format=jpg&name=large)
https://www.twitter.com/ChrisSamnee/status/1291784457834369030
It's good, but I prefer the level of detail that Joe Quinones puts into his artwork. Nonetheless, I love how Keaton's Batman can translate in comic book form so well.
Introducing Burtonized characters that were not present in the two Burton films is an interesting concept. Since the Burtonverse lends itself to yet another alternate history of a specific, and beloved Batman universe, DC could also play with the idea of merging characters together as well, to be perfectly honest. Depending on how far you want to go with that notion. For instance, the '66 villain False-Face is revealed in the comic to be Basil Karlo, who then becomes a '66 version of Clayface.
To me, Chip Shreck would be a shoe in for something like this. But for which villain? Sure, you could go with just Chip Shreck, and that's it. Or the writer/editor can go with merging Chip with an established comic book Batman villain together. Being that Chip was apparently close to his father Max, I could see Chip going into a deep depression as a consequence to his father's untimely demise. Possibly even suffering from a mental breakdown as well, and wanting revenge. Perhaps in his misery, Chip goes so far as to dig up his father's coffin, and use pieces of the coffin to create his own grotesque black mask. Creating not a Roman Sionis Black Mask, but a Chip Shreck Burtonized Black Mask.
Course I'm just spitballing here.
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 01:34
Introducing Burtonized characters that were not present in the two Burton films is an interesting concept. Since the Burtonverse lends itself to yet another alternate history of a specific, and beloved Batman universe, DC could also play with the idea of merging characters together as well, to be perfectly honest. Depending on how far you want to go with that notion. For instance, the '66 villain False-Face is revealed in the comic to be Basil Karlo, who then becomes a '66 version of Clayface.
To me, Chip Shreck would be a shoe in for something like this. But for which villain? Sure, you could go with just Chip Shreck, and that's it. Or the writer/editor can go with merging Chip with an established comic book Batman villain together. Being that Chip was apparently close to his father Max, I could see Chip going into a deep depression as a consequence to his father's untimely demise. Possibly even suffering from a mental breakdown as well, and wanting revenge. Perhaps in his misery, Chip goes so far as to dig up his father's coffin, and use pieces of the coffin to create his own grotesque black mask. Creating not a Roman Sionis Black Mask, but a Chip Shreck Burtonized Black Mask.
Course I'm just spitballing here.
Great ideas. I got a crazy imagination of Chip Shreck becoming Bane, only because I know Andrew Bryniarski is a big man in real life. I can't believe he's the same guy who played Zangief in Street Fighter.
(https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Bane-DC-Comics-Batman-Batbreaker-a.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzQMvGdUwAA1xRx.jpg)
A goofy premise could go something like this: with his father now dead, the Shreck business empire and family name is left in tatters because Max's crimes have been exposed, Chip leaves Gotham City a broken man. He escapes to South America, finds himself at the wrong place at the wrong time and is sent to prison in Santa Prisca.
Similar to Bane's backstory in Vengeance of Bane, Chip could have a near death experience behind bars, but instead of hallucinating his future self like in VOB, Chip hallucinates the spirit of his father who tells him he must avenge his death by killing Batman (similar to Norman Osborne telling Harry to avenge his death in Raimi's Spider-Man). Chip's hatred of Batman enables him to survive prison, and his willpower makes him a candidate for the Venom experiment. He survives, and returns to Gotham City as Bane with the promise of "breaking the Bat" and reclaim the city, in a warped attempt to rebuild the Shreck family heritage. Catwoman returns upon hearing that Chip is wrongfully blaming Batman for his dad's death, and takes responsibility by working together with Batman to stop Bane.
It's fan fiction stuff, sure, but most of these comic tie-ins are. ;D
If Burton had imagined his own take on Bane, maybe the costume would've resembled as Victorian era strongman attire, with a bizarre circus looking Luchador mask. Something that would blend well with the Red Triangle Gang.
If they actually did go the Batman Beyond route in the comic or the films, I like the idea of Terry going to Shreck's High School. The idea there would be that since no one knows what happened behind closed doors Max is seen as a mortar. Just a bit of world building that I would like.
Jim Lee drew this very nice picture of Keaton's Batman with Axis Chemicals appearing in the background. Except he called the factory its original name in the comis, Ace.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgDUjryUcAEWiFF?format=jpg&name=large)
https://twitter.com/JimLee/status/1297270406919806976
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 13:35
Great ideas. I got a crazy imagination of Chip Shreck becoming Bane, only because I know Andrew Bryniarski is a big man in real life. I can't believe he's the same guy who played Zangief in Street Fighter.
(https://www.writeups.org/wp-content/uploads/Bane-DC-Comics-Batman-Batbreaker-a.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DzQMvGdUwAA1xRx.jpg)
A goofy premise could go something like this: with his father now dead, the Shreck business empire and family name is left in tatters because Max's crimes have been exposed, Chip leaves Gotham City a broken man. He escapes to South America, finds himself at the wrong place at the wrong time and is sent to prison in Santa Prisca.
Similar to Bane's backstory in Vengeance of Bane, Chip could have a near death experience behind bars, but instead of hallucinating his future self like in VOB, Chip hallucinates the spirit of his father who tells him he must avenge his death by killing Batman (similar to Norman Osborne telling Harry to avenge his death in Raimi's Spider-Man). Chip's hatred of Batman enables him to survive prison, and his willpower makes him a candidate for the Venom experiment. He survives, and returns to Gotham City as Bane with the promise of "breaking the Bat" and reclaim the city, in a warped attempt to rebuild the Shreck family heritage. Catwoman returns upon hearing that Chip is wrongfully blaming Batman for his dad's death, and takes responsibility by working together with Batman to stop Bane.
It's fan fiction stuff, sure, but most of these comic tie-ins are. ;D
If Burton had imagined his own take on Bane, maybe the costume would've resembled as Victorian era strongman attire, with a bizarre circus looking Luchador mask. Something that would blend well with the Red Triangle Gang.
That's pretty cool!
That's the great thing about spitballing with a elseworlds/alternate earth type of stuff. Because you can go far out with the ideas, and not harm the main continuity and history in any way. This was also fun with the Ultimate Marvel comics for awhile there, until it went on for years and years with hundreds of comics under that imprint. Eventually getting bogged down by it's own continuity.
Also, thanks for posting that Jim lee Batman art. Hadn't seen that one.
Hey I just found out that some fans are doing a comic book sequel to Batman Returns. It's called Batman: Enigma. You can see some of the art on Instagram here https://www.instagram.com/batmanenigma1/?hl=en
Thanks for providing the link.
I echo what the one and only Joker says - thanks for providing the link. I usually don't pay attention to many fan projects, but this one actually looks like it has merit. The art style looks solid, and the concepts from what I see from the sketches look engaging (Joker being a fear has hallucination, etc). Will definitely keep my eyes on this.
DC Comics artist V Ken Marion shared this great picture he drew of Batman and Catwoman.
(https://i.imgur.com/f24UTsv.jpg)
https://www.instagram.com/p/CJJ_vB-BzWW/
Jason Fabok, another artist at DC, drew this stunning portrait of Pfeiffer's Catwoman, which is coloured differently in two pictures.
(https://64.media.tumblr.com/8f5aaf92a3bf8274afe44811310c9dc8/tumblr_pwc1rj7qoz1solxeko1_500.png)
https://batmannotes.com/post/187050933353/michelle-pfeiffer-as-catwoman-by-jason-fabok
(https://i.redd.it/2p82k9fye4m31.jpg)
https://batmannotes.com/post/187050933353/michelle-pfeiffer-as-catwoman-by-jason-fabok
So much artwork paying tribute to Burton's take on these characters. Once again, it makes me wish for official tie-in comics. It would be a fun project for DC to do, seeing as so many artists taking great pride in sharing their own artwork on social media.
It's happening!
https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/02/16/the-movie-worlds-of-superman-78-and-batman-89-are-heading-to-comics-in-two-all-new (https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/02/16/the-movie-worlds-of-superman-78-and-batman-89-are-heading-to-comics-in-two-all-new)
If it's just Hamm's script for Batman II, I'm gonna be very upset.
(https://www.dccomics.com/sites/default/files/imce/2021/02-FEB/batman89_adv_60270ac1ea6732.27010521.jpg)
(https://www.dccomics.com/sites/default/files/imce/2021/02-FEB/superman78_adv_60270b013fa8d8.11870889.jpg)
https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/02/16/the-movie-worlds-of-superman-78-and-batman-89-are-heading-to-comics-in-two-all-new
So, Joe Quinones is teaming up with Sam Hamm. We'll be seeing Catwoman and for the first time ever, Robin AND Two-Face in the Burtonverse.
Can't wait!
As for S78, I hope we get to read about Reeve's Superman confronting new villains.
Quote from: Kamdan on Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 21:10
If it's just Hamm's script for Batman II, I'm gonna be very upset.
I understand that it's supposed to take place after Batman Returns.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 21:13
I understand that it's supposed to take place after Batman Returns.
Hope the initial writer involved with the original proposal of a Batman '89 comic series gets a shot at doing what they proposed. Wish that this was more of an on-going series than a one-shot, starting with adapting Hamm's original screenplay before the rewrites.
They need a new artist for the Superman comic. Pretty obvious he traced a couple of publicity photos.
I wouldn't mind seeing Jerry Ordway get another turn at the Burtonverse. His art for the 1989 comic adaptation was nothing short of outstanding!
i think even Ordway himself has said he's a notoriously slow artist, and to that I say, give the guy some notice so he can get a head start and be well ahead of the curve by the time the release dates start coming. The art alone would be well worth it.
Quote from: The Joker on Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 22:20
I wouldn't mind seeing Jerry Ordway get another turn at the Burtonverse. His art for the 1989 comic adaptation was nothing short of outstanding!
i think even Ordway himself has said he's a notoriously slow artist, and to that I say, give the guy some notice so he can get a head start and be well ahead of the curve by the time the release dates start coming. The art alone would be well worth it.
Ordway himself points back to the B89 adaptation as one of his finest works. He's not wrong.
These look interesting, I must say.
Ordway did a '89 commission as recently as last year.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ETb9pSpWsAAbPbK.jpg)
Quote from: The Joker on Tue, 16 Feb 2021, 22:20
I wouldn't mind seeing Jerry Ordway get another turn at the Burtonverse. His art for the 1989 comic adaptation was nothing short of outstanding!
Dan Jurgens agrees.
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If I were casting a Batman '89 project, I'd ask @JerryOrdway to draw it. After all, he has already set the standard by which every other artist will be measured.
https://www.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/1361859219121709057
Ordway is great, but I'm very impressed with what I've seen from Quinones. I can tell this comic run will be a labour of love.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 17 Feb 2021, 02:25
Dan Jurgens agrees.
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If I were casting a Batman '89 project, I'd ask @JerryOrdway to draw it. After all, he has already set the standard by which every other artist will be measured.
https://www.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/1361859219121709057
Ordway is great, but I'm very impressed with what I've seen from Quinones. I can tell this comic run will be a labour of love.
Beggars can be choosers of course, but if this does end up to be a successful endeavor, with the possibility of succeeding volumes, I sincerely wouldn't mind if Ordway gets a shot at doing a prequel/sequel of sorts. Perhaps a finite story set in between Batman'89 and Batman Returns. As it would make for a
great companion piece with the 1989 Comic Adaptation. In addition, I can see how Hamm could reincorporate his initial ideas of Batman being more accepted within Gotham following the events of '89, debris from the Batwing is being sold, Batcreeps ect.
Quote from: The Joker on Fri, 3 Jul 2020, 20:48
I think an official announcement, and any and all info on every comic issue's subsequent solicitation and release date, would have a lot of us here like these guys.
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Yeah, you called it.
For me, my Batman fandom started with B89. Yes yes yes, I quickly followed it up with The Greatest Batman Stories Ever Told, the West show, BTAS, BR, etc. But B89 remains my first love with Batman, other amazing versions notwithstanding.
I'm a cheerleader from way back when it comes to a Burton comic. So for me, this is like a wish come true. I have nary a criticism to offer... but I would like to say that I will be watching. Closely. I'm hoping for the best. Not necessarily expecting it. But hoping.
Now that the Batman '89 comics written by Sam Hamm came and went, I'd like to know if the ideas behind the original pitch were drastically different than what we ended up getting. You can tell the original idea for Barbara Gordon was much younger than the police Sargeant, so there's no way she would've been romantically involved with Harvey Dent. Maybe she would've become Batgirl, as a concept of her in costume was drawn by Quinones. Whatever ideas he had, surely it would've been worthwhile than the wasted character she ultimately became in Hamm's writing. Unless another volume is coming, I don't see that ending having any sort of payoff, if you can call it that.
I'm just going to place this here.
Recent Jerry Ordway sketch cover featuring Jack Nicholson's Joker!
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F2VYjVZWcAApkKI?format=jpg&name=large)
Jerry Ordway drew this amazing sketch back in 2021. It appears to be based on a newspaper comic strip that was an alternative tie-in between B89 and Returns.
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https://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1746585
I suppose that's Robin fighting King Tut, the villain from the Adam West show. Ordway modeled Robin's mask after the one that Chris O'Donnell wore in Forever. It appears Catwoman is holding Vicki Vale hostage.
There is a link to a podcast that discusses these newspaper comic strips.
Another Jerry Ordway commission done in 2021, depicting the Gotham Cathedral confrontation from Batman 1989.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDxwStaWoAAPoa8?format=jpg&name=large)
Batman 1943 gets a shout out with Lewis Wilson getting a name drop.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJE8AIZbUAAxdbD?format=jpg&name=900x900)