https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/589197792662278144
Here it is, the official release of the glorious teaser trailer. We finally see Batman in motion. We also see the awesome armor he dons to fight Superman in detail at the end. We even hear his Bat-voice, which thankfully is not a Christian Bale impression.
The (regular) Batsuit looks awesome. The voice...eh, not the approach I was hoping for, but still better than Bale's. Kinda hope it's just the voice that comes out when he's in the armored TDKR Batsuit and that his voice in the regular looking one sounds a little more normal.
Not too crazy on the Superman stuff, but we'll see.
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Fri, 17 Apr 2015, 23:11
The (regular) Batsuit looks awesome. The voice...eh, not the approach I was hoping for, but still better than Bale's. Kinda hope it's just the voice that comes out when he's in the armored TDKR Batsuit and that his voice in the regular looking one sounds a little more normal.
Not too crazy on the Superman stuff, but we'll see.
It's growly but not as OTT and grating as Bale's, so at least that's something.
I think there are way too many people drawing conclusions about Affleck's voice. I reckon it's premature to believe he'll sound like that for the rest of the film. For all we know, he speaks in that modulated voice because he's wearing that armor. People might say that doesn't make sense, but I disagree. Besides, Snyder is the kind of director who'd do things like this because it seems 'cool'. For example, Superman's apocalyptic nightmare while speaking to Zod in Man of Steel. Cool scene, but it doesn't make much sense if you think about it because Zod revealing his intentions of restoring Krypton at Earth's expense in that manner only makes Superman go against him. It didn't break the movie for me though, and it's not as bad as a lot of questionable flaws that ruined the Nolan movies that everyone prefers to ignore. And nobody has a right to make a fuss over Affleck's voice if they never had a problem with Bale's. I doubt he's going to sound like a "villain" for the rest of the film. But then again it's not the first time I was wrong about something: I was really sure people would revolt against Bale's voice in BB. :-[
As I said in the other thread, it's a teaser that didn't make me love or hate what's about to come in this movie. But if there's one thing I do like about this teaser, I'd say I'm glad that it's giving us glimpses of how the world is reacting to Superman's impact on humanity following the events of Man of Steel. Everything that Jonathan Kent said about how Clark could "change the world, our beliefs and what's it like to be human" isn't empty foreshadowing; it's actually coming to fruition. This is heaps better than, for example, all the hollow talk about Batman wanting to become a symbol of inspiration in BB, but then alll of that gets abandoned in TDK in favour of telling us what a great guy Harvey Dent was so Batman can take the fall on his behalf in the end. ::) It's a theme that has potential to progress naturally and relate to Superman's progression as a character too, which is much better than having that stupid sonar stuff in TDK that did absolutely nothing for Batman's characterization.
Oh hell to the yes!!!
Good to see this in HD.
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Visually, it looks great. No worries there.
Some good meaty plot points about Superman's impact on the world. People tagging a Superman statue, railing against 'false gods'. Others kneeling before him, like he is a God.
So there's a juxtaposition around the world. Those who rail against his power, and those who worship it. In this instance, Lex Luthor and Batman, the two most powerful humans on Earth, are excellent character choices.
Affleck looks like a beast in the regular suit, and the TDK Returns armoured one looks believable. The voice is fine. It's something completely different but not comical. You cant argue he doesn't sound intimidating.
All in all, I'm optimistic about the film.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 00:21
Some good meaty plot points about Superman's impact on the world. People tagging a Superman statue, railing against 'false gods'. Others kneeling before him, like he is a God.
And yet, there are people who still don't like this theme. But they like a movie where Batman contradicts his faith in people's inherent goodness by taking the blame for everything that Two-Face did. Yeah, that totally makes sense! ::)
There's is also the weak argument that it's impossible to believe that Superman and Batman co-exist, since lots of people never complained how Iron Man can take on Thor in The Avengers. I'm not condemning The Avengers by the way, but food for thought.
By the way:...
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One word: menacing.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 00:31
And yet, there are people who still don't like this theme. But they like a movie where Batman contradicts his faith in people's inherent goodness by taking the blame for everything that Two-Face did. Yeah, that totally makes sense! ::)
Adam West gets the bright knight tag. But in many respects, I'd find his approach emotionally stronger and more correct/sensible than Bale's. He wouldn't hide his friend Dent's crimes from the public. He'd have the full truth put in public view because he believes in the system, regardless of who is doing the crime or the repercussions in may have.
Doing something like that takes more of a man than running away, hiding the truth and taking blame yourself.
But anyway...let's soak up the greatness of this trailer!
The voice sounds better than the bootleg, but still not the approach I was hoping for.
Everything else looks great, though. Amazing teaser.
I reckon I'll agree with the consensus here. At the most the voice filter is unusual, but far too early to pass judgment. Personally, I love the delivery of such a simple line with the pissed-off demeanor you'd imagine from Frank Miller's Batman.
A lot of fans make a big deal about the smallest things. I remember when Batman was shown in costume, people were complaining about the bat-symbol. It's funny because it's clear that they had no idea that it was from The Dark Knight Returns.
For the voice, it's obvious he's in like a mechanized battle suit when he says it so does anyone else think that is just the voice he has while in that suit or is that just me?
And how many damn memes can there be made of one quote?! Ugh. I'm to the point that if anyone begins ANY sentence or question with "Tell me" I'm going to rip their hair out. lol.
I am finally sort of kind of sold on the idea of Ben Affleck as Batsy based on the trailer and the one shot of him as Bruce. I guess that might sound silly but I guess it just touched something inside that said "Ok this dude might really be good" lol. And the Jeremy Irons voice over, yes thank you. I don't usually go for British accents (no offense to yall here with one, just saying) but I think he could tell me to do just about anything and I would do it totally willingly. ;D
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 07:44
For the voice, it's obvious he's in like a mechanized battle suit when he says it so does anyone else think that is just the voice he has while in that suit or is that just me?
That's what some of us assume too.
I found this cool article about the teaser and the analysis on the negative attitude towards it.
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First 'Batman v Superman' trailer goes dark and moody in a big way
This seems like the only logical way to follow up 'Man Of Steel' to me
By Drew McWeeny @DrewatHitFix | Friday, Apr 17, 2015 9:40 PM
As I sit here this afternoon, my kids are playing Disney Infinity with some of the newer figures they've picked up, so I am being treated to one ridiculous battle after another. At the moment, Stitch and Green Goblin are fighting, which is one of those images that is so silly that you have to love that this game can create those absurdities.
This seems appropriate as people are losing their minds, both good and bad, over the now-officially-released "Batman v Superman: Dawn Of Justice" trailer. There's also been a good deal of indifference, which doesn't shock me. People had pretty strong reactions to "Man Of Steel," and it seems to me at this point that people are drawing battle lines over Zack Snyder in general. Right now is a pivotal moment for DC and Warner's plan for the next few years. Honestly, I can't imagine having to deliver a movie under the sort of microscope that Snyder's dealing with at the moment. No matter what he does, people are going to be watching closely and jumping immediately on anything that makes them unhappy.
I am on the record as being a pretty staunch advocate for "Man Of Steel," and one of the things that I immediately like about this trailer is that it clearly builds off of what many people disliked about the first film, and yet those same people are the ones who seem to be immediately disgruntled. I've seen lots of talk about the filmmakers "not getting" Superman, but I'm not sure how anyone can claim at this point that there is any one interpretation that is definitive.
Even more than Marvel, DC has seemed to open to a very elastic interpretation of its various iconic figures over the years, and as a result, you can have two people who are both fans of Batman who may like something totally different. If I meet someone who really only likes the Adam West version of the character, I don't dismiss them simply because that's not my preferred version. Same thing if someone's a rabid fan of the first Burton film. I may prefer the second one, and I can tell you exactly why I prefer it, but I am more than willing to accept that what I like might not be the same thing someone else does.
With Superman, I've grown very tired of the way he was portrayed on film. I like so many things about the character, but I felt like people just stopped at the Donner film and then acted like there's no other version that will do. One of the things I loved about "Man Of Steel" is how completely it felt like Snyder decided to do his own thing. I'm curious to see how he handles Batman and the other corners of the larger world he's helping to establish.
And if audiences really don't like this one or don't go (yeah, right, like that's going to happen), then Warner is going to have to take serious inventory of what they've got planned. There is a particular tone that this trailer seems to be establishing, and it's verrrrrrry different than anything we see from Marvel. That's important, because the worst thing DC could do would be pure imitation. It's more important that they figure out how to make their world serve the stories and the characters they're using, and I like that they are pushing things are far as they appear to be in this trailer.
We've still got a long way to go before 2016, and a million giant movies, it feels like, but this is a hell of an announcement for the general public who isn't dialed in to every little development at Warner.
"Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice" is in theaters March 25, 2016.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captured/first-batman-v-superman-trailer-goes-dark-and-moody-in-a-big-way#ozJ1aQY63deoOWSZ.99
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 08:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 07:44
For the voice, it's obvious he's in like a mechanized battle suit when he says it so does anyone else think that is just the voice he has while in that suit or is that just me?
That's what some of us assume too.
Oh ok. Cool. lol.
There's alot to digest and theorize about after watching that trailer, but overall, looking good. Yesss it does.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 07:44
And how many damn memes can there be made of one quote?! Ugh. I'm to the point that if anyone begins ANY sentence or question with "Tell me" I'm going to rip their hair out. lol.
This is the only one I've seen, and I thought it was pretty funny.
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"Huh. The video game spin-offs don't usually get their ads out before the main thing. Well, the cut scenes look good. I wonder what the gameplay will be li - WAIT A MINUTE!!!"
But seriously - the aesthetics are a great departure from Man of Steel. Having disliked or hated virtually every aspect of that film's design, such a departure is welcome. The new look isn't really to my tastes either - if you couldn't tell from the above, I think it looks like a game - but it is more interesting and fun than its predecessor.
In terms of the content...meh.
The Bat/Supes conflict in TDKR wasn't an aspect of that book that I enjoyed. The fact that BvS is taking certain cues from TDKR is no secret, but this trailer reinforced that, and it also reinforced my feeling that this isn't going to be the Bat/Supes team-up for me.
I'm also reminded of Mark Waid's critique about the end of Man of Steel, about how Superman as a character isn't built for the no-win scenario. I'd extend that to say that I don't feel that Superman, or his world, are designed for the sort of Marvel-style conflict over superpowers that this film is selling. Your mileage may vary.
I'm worried about collateral damage. Supes and Zod's fight will be like a toddler tipping over Legos compared to him and Batsy going at it lol.
One of the comics I read had them fighting and one of them (I think it was Batman) did a narration thing about people asking who wins in their fights. He said "No one." And it's true! I don't get this fascination with pitting superheroes against each other physically but that's just me. I hope that part like gets over and done with and they can keep their moral conflict for all times if they want for all I care but work together damnit.
I think they'll have two main fights, and then a big climax where they come together to defeat the real enemy.
Obviously, there's a lot leading up to the fight; seeing the anti-Superman armor itself shows that they didn't just have a conflict by chance, Batman went in full-strength in order to fight Superman.
In terms of content, I like that we're seeing more of Superman's perspective in the fight against Batman. In TDKR, Superman was kinda two-dimensional as an antagonist. If done right, we'll be invested in both sides here.
Quote from: zDBZ on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 20:28
The Bat/Supes conflict in TDKR wasn't an aspect of that book that I enjoyed. The fact that BvS is taking certain cues from TDKR is no secret, but this trailer reinforced that, and it also reinforced my feeling that this isn't going to be the Bat/Supes team-up for me.
I think the Superman fight in DKR completes the book. "And who will they send after you?," Batman asks Superman. Good question. The answer is nobody. This is the endgame.
I'm sure they team up in the movie, but only after battling each other.
Quote from: Slash Man on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 22:45
In TDKR, Superman was kinda two-dimensional as an antagonist. If done right, we'll be invested in both sides here.
Alot of fans, who like TDKR, will say that it's a great Batman story, but not in terms of portraying Superman. Who comes across as more of a pawn for the Government and President Regan in the story itself. With BvS, I'm not really getting that as so much as Superman's intentions being
suspect for alot of people. Thanks, probably, to Luthor's influence with social media and whatever.
Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 19 Apr 2015, 14:15
Quote from: Slash Man on Sat, 18 Apr 2015, 22:45
In TDKR, Superman was kinda two-dimensional as an antagonist. If done right, we'll be invested in both sides here.
Alot of fans, who like TDKR, will say that it's a great Batman story, but not in terms of portraying Superman. Who comes across as more of a pawn for the Government and President Regan in the story itself. With BvS, I'm not really getting that as so much as Superman's intentions being suspect for alot of people. Thanks, probably, to Luthor's influence with social media and whatever.
Exactly. Superman in Man of Steel made it very clear that he'd cooperate with the military on his own terms, and refused to be manipulated under any circumstances. Don't be surprised if this stance of his will leave him subject to criticism and scrutiny.
Anyway, the first teaser posters for the film have been released!
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http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/431555-zack-snyder-reveals-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-teaser-posters#/slide/2
Love the posters!
Just a fun video incorporating Adam West and Christopher Reeve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6cpTjsHTNk
That was great. They combined the words of the real trailer with the images of the old actors quite well. :)
Quote from: The Joker on Mon, 20 Apr 2015, 14:17
Just a fun video incorporating Adam West and Christopher Reeve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6cpTjsHTNk
OH MY GOD I FREAKING LOVE IT! Hahaha!
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What do people think of the brand new Batwing?
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It may not have any bat-themed designs like in the Burton/Schumacher years, but surely it's better than the recent "Bat" in The Dark Knight Rises, right?
As you can see in the teaser, the Batwing fires and blows up crooks and their vehicles. As long as Batman kills scum while avoiding any moral cop-outs, I don't care. There were rumours that the Batwing is actually the Batmobile with the ability transform into an aircraft, but who knows?
It seems okay to me, but I'd like a proper look at it.
Originally, the Batplane wasn't too fancy, simply a modified fighter jet, and I'm kinda seeing that here. Again, the whole "sleekness" element of Batman's vehicles was missing in recent films, hopefully we'll get that back.
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I'm honestly unsure if that's really the Batwing or a LexCorp jet.
If it is the Batwing, I like the comparison that Slash Man brought up. It's way better than The Crab, I mean, The Bat from the last movie, but I prefer the bat-shaped ones from B89 and Batman Forever.
It depends if it has any bat features to be spoken of. I don't wanna go from a flying lump of black cube to a flying flat black triangle. They need to shake off this militaristic design sh*t of the arsenal. It's really begun to piss me off.
I still can't believe there are some fans who laughed at the old Batwing and applauded what I refer to as either "the Ladybug" or "the poorer man's Batcopter". What the frig are those fans "on"?
Quote from: Cobblepot4Mayor on Tue, 28 Apr 2015, 22:19
They need to shake off this militaristic design sh*t of the arsenal. It's really begun to piss me off.
This.
Quote from: Cobblepot4Mayor on Tue, 28 Apr 2015, 22:19
I still can't believe there are some fans who laughed at the old Batwing and applauded what I refer to as either "the Ladybug" or "the poorer man's Batcopter". What the frig are those fans "on"?
Should this really be surprising to you by now? Most Batman fans on the internet nowadays are apologetic of comic book characters coming to life on the big screen. They're the ones who are openly against Batman teaming up with Superman or whoever because they think it's "unrealistic" that Batman can work with other superhuman heroes, or fight other superhuman villains. But strangely, they have no problems with any of that in the comics or cartoons. When you compare them to Marvel fans, who get excited of seeing characters like the Guardians of the Galaxy or one of the Avengers facing off against each other, you realize how sad most of these so-called Batman fans are. Thankfully, they don't visit this forum. :-X
Anyway, enjoy this fan-edited version of the BvS teaser with Michael Keaton and Christopher Reeve. The crazed look in both of their faces near the end as they face each other off scared the sh*t out of me. Keaton definitely had that psychotic look at times...but make no mistake about it, Reeve could be scary to look at too. That Superman III junkyard fight was scary to watch as a kid.
https://youtu.be/3TnYZomTtzY (https://youtu.be/3TnYZomTtzY)
Henry Cavill has confirmed what most people thought: that Dawn of Justice is NOT a sequel to Man of Steel, but rather a prequel to the Justice League.
Source: http://sciencefiction.com/2015/04/23/henry-cavill-agrees-rest-us-batman-v-superman-dawn-justice-isnt-sequel-man-steel/
Although it's confirmed that the incidents in Man of Steel will be addressed (unless it's all window dressing), I do worry if the film ends up being biased towards one of the main characters.
Here are two new pictures of Batfleck: one without the Superman symbol covering his eyes, and an unofficial upper body shot of him.
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Source: http://au.ign.com/articles/2015/04/30/batman-v-superman-purported-new-photos-of-ben-afflecks-batman
Without any doubt, the best live action Batsuit we've had in a long, long time.
Thanks for the photos, Laughing Fish. I agree this is an impressive batsuit, and equally placed with Keaton's designs even though they take different approaches. In terms of adapting the DKR/Arkham aesthetic, this is absolutely perfect. Well done to all involved.
He totally has the look. Now he's got to bring it to life!
I know we have only seen the teaser and don't know much about the film yet, but I thought I'd start the discussion by asking how Batman's relationship with Superman will progress in the movie, as well as how Batman will be depicted in the upcoming film.
The biggest assumption from many people, me included, is that Batman is very threatened by Superman and doesn't trust him following the events in Man of Steel. I'm not too crazy about Batman returning from retirement again if the rumours are true. But if it does happen, I hope that this time Superman's emergence in addition to Bruce Wayne's guilt for the deaths of people he cared for will spur him onto becoming Batman yet again. Judging from the set pieces of Ben Affleck, I predict his Bruce will still be involved in the public eye, yet his Batman will be uncompromising similar to Miller's Batman, or even Keaton's Batman i.e. the shot of the Batwing gunning down crooks in the trailer.
So it will be interesting to see at what point Batman's appearance will take place in the film, and how will it occur. I wouldn't be surprised if Batman's certain style of vigilantism catches Superman's attention in the wrong way, leading him to investigate in Gotham. Batman might call out on Superman and accuse him of having a double standard; arguing that Superman doesn't have to answer to anybody either, especially if collateral damage is involved. Some of the comics I've read that starred Batman and Superman together included how the two heroes have vastly different ideologies to each other, despite sharing a common goal to keep the peace. Batman tends to do whatever it takes to break the rules, whereas Superman prefers to trust the common man and not to break certain boundaries. Sure, people will complain that Superman killing Zod right in the first movie undermines that tension, but I strongly doubt Superman will kill every criminal he encounters. The same goes for Batman too.
An intriguing point that a friend of mine mentioned that this movie might be changing aspects of the The Dark Knight Returns' storyline to suit Superman's arc: how the public reacts to Superman. Instead of having people in Gotham debate whether Batman is good or bad for society, it looks like we'll be seeing dividing sides of the spectrum debating about Superman. One group will worship him as a god for saving the world from genocide and continued heroism, whereas the other group will see him as a monster and blame his existence for creating such disasters like Zod's attempted invasion on Earth in the first place. I wouldn't be surprise if Lex Luthor starts a smear campaign to demonise Superman, which tricks Batman in the process at first.
Just another mash-up video for fun. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk9dXG4fMw8
Truly spectacular teaser, and man does Affleck look like Batman!!
I honestly feel like we're gonna be seeing a proper Batman movie again, for the first time since 97, I feel like this is worthy of the Batman name and will not be ashamed of going all in with it!
But yeah, Affleck looks great, he's intimidating as sh!t, like WOAH, he's bulked up and is straight outta the DKR comics, though I hope its a case of Batman has had a long career already as opposed to a retired old man Batman, we've JUST seen that and makes me think we wont see too much Batman in the JL movie run.
Having him at the stage where he's lost Jason and Dick is NW is the best point I'd say, he's a veteran, he knows what he's doing without being a rookie, him in his prime.
It sounds great though, man that bass blow every few beats is so powerful, really brings the movie full circle more than any score for a Batman film has in some time.
I'm so excited for this, the battle between Batman and Superman is gonna be epic, but I also hope its personal and doesn't go all over the city, keeping it close and tight would be best - just one heck of a fist fight!
Plus really hoping Jenna Malone is playing the Oracle, she'd be perfect as her, she easily looks the part and has the acting chops for it too.
Eeeee so excite for thas!!