It's probably a load of BS because there is no press release from WB. But there are quite a number of news outlets right now claiming this Aussie chick is going to play Harley Quinn. I've never heard of her before. For what it's worth, Geoff Johns teased a picture of Harley on Instagram claiming there'll be official news soon.
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Margot Robbie is Harley Quinn in David Ayer's 'Suicide Squad' Movie
There it is. Following the news from the end of last week, our friends at Collider are reporting that actress Margot Robbie has been actually cast to play Harley Quinn in the Suicide Squad movie. Last week, a big casting story broke saying that Jared Leto was being considered for The Joker role in Suicide Squad, to be directed by David Ayer coming off of the critical success of Fury. There have been rumors Harley Quinn might be in this too, and casting reports have mentioned Margot for months already, but now it seems to be confirmed from Collider's source - she will be playing Harley Quinn and we'll probably get more Joker, too.
Very talented 24-year-old Australian actress Margot Robbie has been landing roles left and right ever since her co-starring role in Martin Scorsese's The Wolf of Wall Street, where she impressed everyone. Robbie has already filmed Z for Zachariah and Focus with Will Smith, both arriving in 2015, and she's about to start shooting Tarzan starring as Jane, the big Warner Bros production directed by David Yates. She also just took a role in The Mountain Between Us opposite Charlie Hunnam. She'll be an excellent Quinn and should bring some extra attention to this by playing Harley Quinn, one of the most beloved DC Comics characters. We may finally see Joker and Harley Quinn together on the big screen soon, as long as it all comes together.
David Ayer is directing the film about a team of imprisoned super-villains who perform high-risk missions for the U.S. Government in exchange for commuted sentences. The team's actions are highly classified, and the government is able to deny any involvement by claiming that they are not responsible for the damages of a random super-villain attack. The catch: their mission will probably kill them all. Ayer has described the film as The Dirty Dozen with super villains, and that sounds fun as hell. Release is initially set for August 2016. The cast is said to include Tom Hardy, Jesse Eisenberg and Will Smith. Is Robbie the best choice?
http://www.firstshowing.net/2014/margot-robbie-is-harley-quinn-in-david-ayers-suicide-squad-movie/
Thoughts?
Eh. I googled her since I've never heard of her either. Not what I pictured for Harley. Plus I'm sad the first LA Harley isn't American. Nothing against non-Americans, you know. I just hate fake accents.
Kitty is going to have to warm up to this.
Margot Robbie is one of the sexiest, most attractive actresses of the moment, and she proved in 'The Wolf of Wall Street' that she can put on a very convincing Noo Yawk accent. Still, I'd have ideally liked to have see a Jewish actress like Sarah Michelle Gellar or Scarlett Johansson to play the part as an acknowledgement of Harleen's heritage. Robbie looks very Anglo/WASPy to me, and I wonder if she'll be able to convey her high intelligence.
Still, I guess Robbie will now joint the ranks of other incredibly beautiful Batman women like Michelle Pfeiffer, Kim Basinger, Cristi Conaway, Elle Macpherson, Nicole Kidman and Jerry Hall.
Margot Robbie as Harley could work. I guess. I've seen The Wolf of Wall Street, and outside of all the nudity, I don't really recall any of her acting scenes leaving too much of an impression. But to be fair, it was very much the Leo show, so that may not be especially fair to her. Appearance wise, I have a easier time seeing the other girl rumored for the part, Cara Delevingne, than I could Margot. Though with the latter, WB/DC could easily ramp up the observable sexualization of Harley, that, BTW, seems to be a popular theme amongst Harley Cosplayers these days. Especially in light of the Arkham games, and the classic harlequin costume even being ditched in the comics following the Nu52.
Quote from: The Joker on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 18:46
Appearance wise, I have a easier time seeing the other girl rumored for the part, Cara Delevingne, than I could Margot.
I'm not a fan of Delevingne. She always looks moody in her pics, and I don't see her appeal at all. It makes me wonder that she's only where she is because of family connections/the circles she moves in, or because the fashion industry seems to sadly favour the waifish, sullen look.
And like you said, Margot does seem to promise sex appeal in the part.
To me neither one of them are "cute" enough to be Harley, going by pics of their faces and expressions. There is this adorableness that is like critical to her being. Maybe I will be proven wrong. I just hope they don't try to focus on the sexy part and forget the cuteness, because then it won't be Harley. She's a lot more than just looking sexy (which any actress should be able to do wearing her new comic outfit lol). The personality is what makes her. This Margot better step it up and be cute as hell or she's just an empty shell.
I guess it's obvious I'm like really emotionally invested in this lol. I've been waiting a long damn time for her to get a live action movie. I don't want them to f*** it up and I'm scared to death they will. I will tell you this, if she tries to play her like Heath Ledger's Joker, only as a girl, I will strangle the bitch myself. >:(
Don't let me down, girl! :-\ :-\ :-\
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 19:51
To me neither one of them are "cute" enough to be Harley, going by pics of their faces and expressions. There is this adorableness that is like critical to her being. Maybe I will be proven wrong. I just hope they don't try to focus on the sexy part and forget the cuteness, because then it won't be Harley. She's a lot more than just looking sexy (which any actress should be able to do wearing her new comic outfit lol). The personality is what makes her. This Margot better step it up and be cute as hell or she's just an empty shell.
I guess it's obvious I'm like really emotionally invested in this lol. I've been waiting a long damn time for her to get a live action movie. I don't want them to f*** it up and I'm scared to death they will. I will tell you this, if she tries to play her like Heath Ledger's Joker, only as a girl, I will strangle the bitch myself. >:(
Don't let me down, girl! :-\ :-\ :-\
Apart from the part about straggling her I really do sympathise with your words Catwoman.
I know you're a big fan of Harley Quinn (I am too, and have been waiting a long time to see her portrayed in live-action, but I appreciate that I'm not nearly as big a fan as you). I see what you mean by her personality, although I don't know if I'd describe it as 'cute' exactly. Remember, this won't be a cartoon and Harley, if done properly, has got a real unhinged, psychotic streak alongside her adorability/apparent cuteness.
I have seen The Wolf of Wall Street and judging from that performance I do think Robbie could pull off the (fake) ditziness and borderline bi-polar mania, as well as the sexiness. Robbie may look like a model but she's got comic chops too (kind of like, and I know you hate me saying this, Cristi Conaway as the ditzy Ice Princess). Robbie reminds me a bit of a modern-era Marie Wilson who patented the whole 'dumb blonde' persona way back when ( see also Jean Harlow, Marilyn Monroe, Judy Holliday and Jean Hagan, at least in 'Singin' in the Rain').
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 19:14
I'm not a fan of Delevingne. She always looks moody in her pics, and I don't see her appeal at all. It makes me wonder that she's only where she is because of family connections/the circles she moves in, or because the fashion industry seems to sadly favour the waifish, sullen look.
And like you said, Margot does seem to promise sex appeal in the part.
I'm really not overly familiar with either. With Cara, I'm going solely on pictures (like the ones she's posted of herself with her eyes crossed, suggesting a mentally unbalanced personality ... which you pretty much would have to be to fall in love with the Joker), and am unaware of any nepotism/inner circles dealings that pertains to her. Ideally, I'm not a fan of nepotism, but it's nothing new in Hollywood. Similar to Hollywood favoring the cookie cutter blonde. Now with Margot, I've only seen in
Wolf/Wallstreet. Which was a role that relied much more on sex appeal than anything else, and perhaps a little too overtly at that. Similar to Sharon Stone in
Basic Instinct. Honestly, I think your girl Conway evoked a combo of sex appeal and comedic ability, than what I remember from Margot in Wolf. If she has played a more comedic role in a film, I would be interested in checking it out. Just to get a more accurate assessment of her acting ability.
If either lands the role, I'll give either/or a shot, and it's not like they have the burden of actually carrying the film, as they have the luxury of it being an ensemble piece. Similar to Catwoman, I've become much less emotionally invested in this, and the entire DC cinematic universe slate of films to be perfectly honest, than I was just a few years back gearing up for
Man of Steel.
Quote from: The Joker on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 21:24
I'm really not overly familiar with either. With Cara, I'm going solely on pictures (like the ones she's posted of herself with her eyes crossed, suggesting a mentally unbalanced personality ... which you pretty much would have to be to fall in love with the Joker), and am unaware of any nepotism/inner circles dealings that pertains to her. Ideally, I'm not a fan of nepotism, but it's nothing new in Hollywood. Similar to Hollywood favoring the cookie cutter blonde. Now with Margot, I've only seen in Wolf/Wallstreet. Which was a role that relied much more on sex appeal than anything else, and perhaps a little too overtly at that. Similar to Sharon Stone in Basic Instinct. Honestly, I think your girl Conway evoked a combo of sex appeal and comedic ability, than what I remember from Margot in Wolf. If she has played a more comedic role in a film, I would be interested in checking it out. Just to get a more accurate assessment of her acting ability.
The Ice Princess is a very different comic character to Harley Quinn though. One is a dumb blonde, the other just pretends to be a dumb blonde/acts like one because she's psychologically unhinged.
But bear in mind that in The Wolf of Wall Street, Robbie was part of a straight drama with satirical elements rather than a full-on comedy/comic-book fantasy, but she was still able to roll with the film's many OTT moments such as the scene where DiCaprio and Jonah Hill are off their heads on Quaaludes, and she did a great job with the broad accent.
QuoteIf either lands the role, I'll give either/or a shot, and it's not like they have the burden of actually carrying the film, as they have the luxury of it being an ensemble piece. Similar to Catwoman, I've become much less emotionally invested in this, and the entire DC cinematic universe slate of films to be perfectly honest, than I was just a few years back gearing up for Man of Steel.
I hear you, but I saw Man of Steel again a few weeks ago, and apart from Jonathan Kent's ridiculous death, the interminable final battle scene between Zod and Superman, and the overly dark, dreary look of the film, I surprisingly found plenty to enjoy and appreciate, including a new interpretation of Superman/Clark Kent that didn't exist in Christopher Reeve's shadow, genuinely menacing villains who didn't lack for conviction and some decent performances from all concerned
including Cavill.
I really want this Harley to be inspired by the animated Harley Quinn and her style and voice. After all, Harley was created specifically for animation. And she was so cool that they adapted her to the comics.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 21:43
The Ice Princess is a very different comic character to Harley Quinn though. One is a dumb blonde, the other just pretends to be a dumb blonde/acts like one because she's psychologically unhinged.
Yeah, I wasn't particularly comparing the
characters of Harley and Ice Princess. Apologies if there was some misunderstanding on that. My comparison was on what was presented by both actresses in their respective films. Which, I believe, Conway showed much more comedic chops in BR, than that of Margot in Wolf.
QuoteBut bear in mind that in The Wolf of Wall Street, Robbie was part of a straight drama with satirical elements rather than a full-on comedy/comic-book fantasy, but she was still able to roll with the film's many OTT moments such as the scene where DiCaprio and Jonah Hill are off their heads on Quaaludes, and she did a great job with the broad accent.
Unfortunately for Margot, pretty much all her scenes with Leo resulted in her being overshadowed by Leo. Course if we're talking sex, then she was the primary focus, but only fleetingly. Other than that, it was very much the Leo show. Which came across as very intentional by Scorsese. Perhaps in the hopes of Leo finally getting that Oscar? I don't know. But personally, I find it difficult to view Wolf as a straight drama in any way you look at it. Maybe a comedic satire with elements of drama, but all the over-the-top shenanigans (and there was many) really paints a picture of continual hilarity.
QuoteI hear you, but I saw Man of Steel again a few weeks ago, and apart from Jonathan Kent's ridiculous death, the interminable final battle scene between Zod and Superman, and the overly dark, dreary look of the film, I surprisingly found plenty to enjoy and appreciate, including a new interpretation of Superman/Clark Kent that didn't exist in Christopher Reeve's shadow, genuinely menacing villains who didn't lack for conviction and some decent performances from all concerned including Cavill.
I appreciate MOS for effectively getting us out of the Donnerverse, and can easily get past perceived flaws the film has (Everthing wrong with ... does a good job with nitpicking films to deah), but at the same time, understand
some of the issues people have with it. The final fight did go on a wee bit long, though I think the fight would have been a pretty accurate depiction if something like that
really went down (similar to how a similar city battle in Alan Moore's run on Miracleman presented such a notion), and if I had my druthers, the death of Jonathan Kent would have remained a heart attack as I believe it's overall more effective, but course we all have our opinions. MOS finally put us in a more Post-Crisis world when it comes to Supes, and it was ABOUT TIME! Also, Cavill is aces as Superman. Same goes for Amy Adams as Lois.
I liked MOS but that last fight was ridonkulous. I think they're still going at it. And Johnathan Kent's death in the original Supes was a lot more dramatic because he COULD have saved his dad in MOS but he told him to stay back to protect his identity. In the original, none of his powers could have done a thing unless he tried turning the world back like he did to save Lois, and even that would have only bought him a few fleeting minutes to say goodbye.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 21:45
I really want this Harley to be inspired by the animated Harley Quinn and her style and voice. After all, Harley was created specifically for animation. And she was so cool that they adapted her to the comics.
This.
I guess if I'm going to comment any further on Miss Margot I better see Wolf of Wall Street lol. I'm so out of touch on movies.
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 23:37
I liked MOS but that last fight was ridonkulous. I think they're still going at it. And Johnathan Kent's death in the original Supes was a lot more dramatic because he COULD have saved his dad in MOS but he told him to stay back to protect his identity.
Jonathan Kent's death in the 1978 Superman is one of the most powerful, poignant moments in comic-book movie history (the flashback scene in Batman 1989, Bruce trying to reach out to Selina at the end of Batman Returns, the various scenes between Alfred and Bruce in TDK and TDKR particularly in relation to Rachel, and more recently, the opening scene of the otherwise fun and peppy Guardians of the Galaxy also deserve to be mentioned). MOS was never going to top that, but it's a shame that Jonathan Kent's voluntary death by tornado was so absurd/unbelievable, especially since Kevin Costner gives an otherwise very touching, compelling performance in the role. But speaking as an animal-lover Jonathan Kent going back and sacrificing himself for the dog was just stupid and undermined the intended emotional power of his death.
To me, Jonathan Kent going back to save the dog spoke volumes of his character, his heroic nature, and flies in the face of his comment of "maybe ..." that alot of people jumped on when a young Clark posed the question of letting the people die on the bus. Which I think was quite intentional. As it's also evident, within the context of the film, that Jonathan was extremely scared for his son to reveal himself to the world. In any sort of way. So much to the extent, in that he refused to be saved because of his belief. Which Clark even touches upon shortly thereafter with Lois at the cemetery. As a result, the dynamic for Clark changes from "I couldn't save him", to "I didn't save him" (again I think the former is more impactful). Which, in the grand scheme of things concerning the film, explains why he's essentially chosen to remain a mysterious stranger during the first half of the film, and only finally deciding to fully reveal himself to the world when Zod arrives to Earth with his crew and makes the substantial death toll threat.
In theory I like Jonathan's line about possibly letting the kids on the bus die, but ultimately his words and sacrifice carry less weight and resonance than they should because Clark does reveal himself to the world as Superman and nothing in the film suggests he was right to hide himself from the world for so long. In fact, had he revealed himself earlier he could have won over the world to the idea of 'super-powered' beings/aliens being good some time before Zod and his followers played to their worst fears.
I don't think it's either right or wrong argument, but simply a decision made for the fear of the unknown. A fear of what may happen if Clark would have revealed himself when not being really prepared for it. A very human fear, that Clark took the heart, and to which played a role in his deciding not to make a full reveal until he basically had no other choice. It plays differently than SM: The Movie, because MOS Supes lacks years of training/teachings of Jor-El. Rather, he gets a crash course of his destiny, something Jonathan could only allude to, but not fully embrace, and all hell breaks loose for him practically on day 1.
B v S will no doubt show a more seasoned Superman, but given the rumored plot, the notion of the public opinion being split on him is an interesting route to take, and further pulls away from the classic perception of Superman being a nearly universally beloved hero.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 21:45
I really want this Harley to be inspired by the animated Harley Quinn and her style and voice. After all, Harley was created specifically for animation. And she was so cool that they adapted her to the comics.
Pretty much the point I was going to make.
This isn't Harley
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This is
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Though I'm happy so see some site's using Alex Ross' fabulous art for Harley. As much as big studios want superhero costumes to be simplified to the point of being unrecognizable and muting vibrant colors, Ross' work shows that they can (and should) be done realistically with respect to the source material:
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I guess that's all I have to say, not to familiar with the actress, but if she can channel Arleen Sorkin's manic performance, then I look forward to seeing her on the big screen.
I'm in 100% agreement Slash Man regarding costumes.
This will be the first time we see Harley in a live-action film (I'm ignoring the short-lived TV show "Birds of Prey") so let's see her in her traditional animated series costume, dammit!
Agreed with you guys.
The former pic just makes me think of going to a convention and seeing a chick cosplay as Harley.
The latter pic represents the proper/classic/traditional Harley Quinn.
I'll be surprised if they actually go with the proper Harley, due to the video games, and the Nu52 staying away from it for so long now, but would be pleasantly surprised if they did go the classic route. I'm just not looking for it to happen. I've seen some fan art of both Margo and Jared Leto as Harley and Joker, and it appears people still can't get Ledger out of their heads as a good number of art I've seen has Leto in the same, or very similar style look that Ledger was seen in. I certainly hope they stay away from the face paint/scars, as we've already seen that and there's really no reason to return to it. However, Leto appearing more like the Joker from The Dark Knight Returns would be interesting, especially in comparison to Affleck's Bats clearly being inspired from that version as well.
I just hope they don't have the Joker's face cut off and re-attached. Yuck. I saw a comic someone had drew, like a funny one, of his new face and I was like "Uhhhh whats with his face?" Then I read what it was supposed to be and about puked.
I like Harley's new costumes but yes, when I think of Harley there's one look I think of and that of course is the jester costume. Her new look is both cute and sexy (I would cosplay it in a heartbeat) but that's all it is. It doesn't have the "Harley magic." Maybe it will grow on me. I love that they like showing her belly button now lol but other than that, I'm with Mr. J. It's like a cosplay of a girl trying to impress (read: get the hotel room keys from) the hot guys.
I will say this and I am being totally honest with it. If the Joker in Suicide Squad is Ledger-y, I won't even bother with it probably because to me that means it has failed to move us on from the overrated, self-righteous Nolan series that thinks it is the start all and end all. I'll follow through on it too. Y'all know I'm a Catwoman girl first and foremost and I still haven't seen TDKR even though people keep telling me how great Anne was.
The Alex Ross pic to me is just the most amazing thing ever. I got a T-shirt with it for Christmas last year and I literally did my own Harley squeal :D :D :D
I love where his hand is. Hehe.
I totally need the statue they've made of it but those things are so freaking expensive and I'm so freaking poor that I don't even bother looking at the merchandise most of the time. I stumbled onto it the other day hunting for comic books to buy on the DC site. It's amazing but out of Kitty's price range. :(
Let's remember that Robbie and Leto are still rumours at this point. But I can't deny that it's exciting to hear the possibility of Joker returning sooner than we think. And the likelihood of seeing Harley Quinn in a live action movie is great too.
Quote from: The Joker on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, 02:01
I don't think it's either right or wrong argument, but simply a decision made for the fear of the unknown. A fear of what may happen if Clark would have revealed himself when not being really prepared for it. A very human fear, that Clark took the heart, and to which played a role in his deciding not to make a full reveal until he basically had no other choice. It plays differently than SM: The Movie, because MOS Supes lacks years of training/teachings of Jor-El. Rather, he gets a crash course of his destiny, something Jonathan could only allude to, but not fully embrace, and all hell breaks loose for him practically on day 1.
I can buy the idea that Pa Kent sacrificed himself to spare his son the possibility of being persecuted by the human race. He knows what people are capable of, and no matter how misguided he might've been, he only wanted what's best for Clark. But I admittedly have a hard time believing that Clark would let his dad die. It's something too traumatic that the character didn't need; his alienation and uncertainty of his place in the world is troubling enough as it is. I honestly don't think it was necessary to kill Pa Kent at all, and the manner the filmmakers chose to get rid of him drew unfavorable comparisons to Donner's movie.
But despite saying this, I do agree that the lack of opportunity of having proper guidance by Jor-El plays into the third act well because an untrained Clark is forced to overcome a dire situation for the human race on his first time out as Superman.
Quote from: Catwoman on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, 07:41
I will say this and I am being totally honest with it. If the Joker in Suicide Squad is Ledger-y, I won't even bother with it probably because to me that means it has failed to move us on from the overrated, self-righteous Nolan series that thinks it is the start all and end all.
You and me both.
Have you seen this bloody awful Photoshop image of Quinn as a Glasgow smiling cretin?
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No.No.NO! >:(
Quote from: Catwoman on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, 07:41
Y'all know I'm a Catwoman girl first and foremost and I still haven't seen TDKR even though people keep telling me how great Anne was.
I liked Hathaway's performance a lot. The problem is the writing for her role was weak. She was just as underdeveloped as every other character in that series.
Ditto, Laughing Fish.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 11 Nov 2014, 08:48
I can buy the idea that Pa Kent sacrificed himself to spare his son the possibility of being persecuted by the human race. He knows what people are capable of, and no matter how misguided he might've been, he only wanted what's best for Clark. But I admittedly have a hard time believing that Clark would let his dad die. It's something too traumatic that the character didn't need; his alienation and uncertainty of his place in the world is troubling enough as it is. I honestly don't think it was necessary to kill Pa Kent at all, and the manner the filmmakers chose to get rid of him drew unfavorable comparisons to Donner's movie.
Given as psychologically repressed Clark's upbringing was, and given that it's clear his father made a very conscious decision
not to be saved, I could buy
this Clark obeying his father's wishes, but perhaps regretting it ever since. I would have a more difficult time with, say, the Donnerverse Clark doing the same thing. As I found that Clark to be a bit more prone to be ostentatious with his powers, than the repressed MOS Clark was.
The trauma of watching his father die, and thus the impact of that event on his psyche is a different topic altogether. I maintain that I believe that Jonathan dying of a heart attack, much like the Donner film, would have worked better overall. Though I personally would have been fine with Jonathan continuing to live on much like he did for most of the Post-Crisis Superman comics.
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Have you seen this bloody awful Photoshop image of Quinn as a Glasgow smiling cretin?
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I've seen that floating around since '07, or '08. I
really hope they steer clear of the Ledgery appearance for Joker/Harley in this new DC cinematic universe....
I wouldn't like to see them use the Glasgow smile and sloppy makeup anywhere else. When I first saw it for the Dark Knight, I wasn't a fan, but Heath's performance and the overall setting made it work. If he didn't nail the part, the whole Joker reimagining would have been laughed off.
As I made it a point before, things like appearance do matter when capturing the character. As much as people like Heath's Joker, he simply wouldn't work in the context of a Harley Quinn. Batman: The Animated Series shows the right degree of Joker needed for that.
Though back to appearance, we actually haven't seen many attempts to fully capture the character from the comic pages. This is one of the few cases where there's a source to compare to; Conrad Veidt. Bill's illustrations were a spitting image of him in his The Man Who Laughs makeup decked out as a 1920s gangster. The permanent grin was then created by large fake teeth, which gave birth to the Joker's toothy grin. I think Jack was the closest, however, it still wasn't exact. This is stretching it a little, but IMO Hugo Blick was the closest onscreen match to the original Joker, face-wise.
Basically, I hope that they actually try to give us an accurate classic Joker, and not a trendy "gritty Joker." I haven't much to say about Jared Leto. I just hope he can get crazy.
Quote from: Slash Man on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 07:33
This is stretching it a little, but IMO Hugo Blick was the closest onscreen match to the original Joker, face-wise.
In my humble opinion, you're right. :)
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Quote from: Slash Man on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 07:33
This is stretching it a little, but IMO Hugo Blick was the closest onscreen match to the original Joker, face-wise.
In my humble opinion, you're right. :)
Your opinion is never humble.
The whole face paint and scars was just not Joker to me. I get that in Christopher Nolan's little world of realism a vat of chemicals wouldn't have worked but maybe he should have skipped the Joker then.
I didn't know until I read her origin story in Suicide Squad that in the new dealio Harley went through the same thing and it isn't just makeup and stuff. I think I like that but I'm not sure lol. But of course I would much rather them do that then give her a scarred-up, sliced up mouth and sloppy face paint.
Agree about Hugo Blick. He also reminds me of Dracula for some reason.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 18:00
Agree about Hugo Blick. He also reminds me of Dracula for some reason.
Dracula! I was trying to think of who else he reminded me of.
A young Bela Lugosi perhaps?
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Quote from: Catwoman on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 17:37
I didn't know until I read her origin story in Suicide Squad that in the new dealio Harley went through the same thing and it isn't just makeup and stuff. I think I like that but I'm not sure lol.
Wasn't, and still not too big on Harley being bleached white just like the Joker. Something like that evidently being recreated, seemingly on a whim, just feels off to me. As that unique occurrence, ideally, should be a once in a lifetime type of situation with the Red Hood having leaped into the vat of chemicals, and emerged with his skin completely bleached permanently white/hair bleached green.
And as it's been said in this thread, I'm in the camp of people here who much prefer Harley's proper/classic appearance over the Arkham games/cosplay/Nu52 appearances anyways. ;)
This, come to think of it, was something that was actually addressed in the Batman comics during the early 1990's, when a character named Curtis Base started masquerading as the Joker, which eventually resulted in the drawing out the real Joker into returning, and to which Base took a flying leap into the dip, in the hopes of being bleached himself, only to be dissolved alive (think of the squeaky toon shoe from
Roger Rabbit and ... yeah).
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 17:37
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 07:47
Quote from: Slash Man on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 07:33
This is stretching it a little, but IMO Hugo Blick was the closest onscreen match to the original Joker, face-wise.
In my humble opinion, you're right. :)
Your opinion is never humble.
What is this supposed to mean? :-\ I thought we were friends Catwoman.
You being pompous has nothing to do with us being friends or not. As far as I know we are.
I'm friends with everyone I think.
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri, 14 Nov 2014, 02:27
You being pompous has nothing to do with us being friends or not. As far as I know we are.
I'm friends with everyone I think.
Okay. :)
But I didn't think I was being that pompous this time. :-\
Quote from: Slash Man on Thu, 13 Nov 2014, 23:38
A young Bela Lugosi perhaps?
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinemagraphe.com%2F_imagery%2F_bela_lugosi%2Fbela-lugosi-young-man.jpg&hash=6473185bd701030e55d7ca809a61d2fcd188f0f9)
Yes, that's what I thought too.
Suicide Squad is shaping up to be just as exciting as Batman v Superman. I mean, Joker, Harley Quinn, Lex Luthor and perhaps cameo appearances by Batman? I'm down with that. And as for Margot Robbie? I'm not familiar with her acting but in terms of aesthetics she's a great fit. I think she has a cute/unhinged type thing going on. And it just takes a simple Google search to see how she appeared in Wolf of Wall Street. ;)
(https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10518996_749593268428841_6053123645452185715_n.png?oh=10c8e549ad833cdc9ecbfa8f39cac83a&oe=54D9AFC3)
I'm sold. lol.
This was on the Batman Notes FB page.
Just occurred to me!
This will be the first movie I have seen where I'm super familiar with the source material and emotionally invested in them getting it right. Kind of exciting and frightening at once lol.
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 1 Dec 2014, 22:49
Just occurred to me!
This will be the first movie I have seen where I'm super familiar with the source material and emotionally invested in them getting it right. Kind of exciting and frightening at once lol.
Do you think you'd have liked the earlier Batman films if you'd been familiar with/invested in the source material beforehand?
Do you still like the earlier films? :-\
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Mon, 1 Dec 2014, 23:53
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 1 Dec 2014, 22:49
Just occurred to me!
This will be the first movie I have seen where I'm super familiar with the source material and emotionally invested in them getting it right. Kind of exciting and frightening at once lol.
Do you think you'd have liked the earlier Batman films if you'd been familiar with/invested in the source material beforehand?
Do you still like the earlier films? :-\
Of course. Nothing will make me not like those films. They're like engrained in me or whatever the term would be lol.
The movie doesn't have to be like the pages of the comic book coming to life to capture my heart. Just as long as they get the vibe right. If they get the vibe with the characters right in SS (specifically Harley is done justice and not made into a Ledger clone) I'm sure I will enjoy it.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/david-ayers-suicide-squad-shoot-753015
WEEEEE!
Only problem is the release date. I don't even know if I'll be alive in August 2016. If I am, I'll (gulp) be THIRTY. :o :o :o
Quote from: Catwoman on Tue, 2 Dec 2014, 15:57
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/david-ayers-suicide-squad-shoot-753015
WEEEEE!
Only problem is the release date. I don't even know if I'll be alive in August 2016. If I am, I'll (gulp) be THIRTY. :o :o :o
Why? Will Belly Button Girl cross paths with the wrong people? :o
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 10 Nov 2014, 15:00
Eh. I googled her since I've never heard of her either. Not what I pictured for Harley. Plus I'm sad the first LA Harley isn't American. Nothing against non-Americans, you know. I just hate fake accents.
Kitty is going to have to warm up to this.
QuoteTo me neither one of them are "cute" enough to be Harley, going by pics of their faces and expressions. There is this adorableness that is like critical to her being. Maybe I will be proven wrong. I just hope they don't try to focus on the sexy part and forget the cuteness, because then it won't be Harley. She's a lot more than just looking sexy (which any actress should be able to do wearing her new comic outfit lol). The personality is what makes her. This Margot better step it up and be cute as hell or she's just an empty shell.
I guess it's obvious I'm like really emotionally invested in this lol. I've been waiting a long damn time for her to get a live action movie. I don't want them to f*** it up and I'm scared to death they will. I will tell you this, if she tries to play her like Heath Ledger's Joker, only as a girl, I will strangle the bitch myself. >:(
Don't let me down, girl! :-\ :-\ :-\
Just like with the Affleck post, Kitty has some crow to eat. :-\
lol.
Ben made a believer out of me long before I ever walked in the theater and Margot has done the same up to this point. Of course we're still four months away from popcorn time but I'm in love with what I've seen so far.
I predict Margot Robbie will become a fan favourite in the role. It helps that the character she's playing is a fan favourite too.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 8 Apr 2016, 11:49
I predict Margot Robbie will become a fan favourite in the role. It helps that the character she's playing is a fan favourite too.
She looks utterly adorable in the part (I'm even willing to forgive the film the absence of the traditional two-tone jester costume, which I believe the filmmakers at least attempted before figuring it would look too ridiculous). I hope we get plenty of footage of Margot as Dr. Quinzel, before her change, since she's such a gorgeous woman it would be great to see her without the white makeup and the platinum/white blonde hair.
For all my misgivings about BvS, I do think the current DCEU seems to have gotten all the Batman-orientated elements right (including Affleck's Batman, Irons' Alfred, Robbie's Harley Quinn, Leto's Joker, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's Killer Croc, as well as J.K. Simmons' casting as Commissioner Gordon), and that this bodes well for some solo Batman movies, hopefully featuring Margot, Jared and Adewale in some capacity, later down the line.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWc8V-iKJ7s
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages4.hiboox.com%2Fimages%2F0615%2F918033668ea4d2cde446b9cb1641f580.gif&hash=e715baaa1116e27e2b362df558017a60b81695ab)
That was amazing!
Well one good turn of Margot deserves another.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t228nErxUA
Okay first off she's too adorable for words. I love her accent!
Second off, NOTHING is wrong with wanting to win.
Third off, I think my fave part we've seen so far might be "Seriously. T'hells wrong with you people?" "We're bad guys. It's what we do."
Fourth off I have no clue who this Rob person is. lol
Fifth, I can NOT wait for this move!
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Wed, 18 May 2016, 15:56
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWc8V-iKJ7s
I'm totally adopting this routine
My Leto Joker article will be called Jester of Genocide. I've started, too. I'm hoping to replicate the Batfleck piece in quality...hopefully I don't have to re-write it again after a computer glitch!
Great! Looking forward to it.