I just hope they have learned from the mistakes of the prequel trilogy and will bring us something better, more akin to the classics.
Yes. More story less focus on visual effects.
Love the name. Very original trilogy-y lol.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Thu, 6 Nov 2014, 18:14
I just hope they have learned from the mistakes of the prequel trilogy and will bring us something better, more akin to the classics.
I think the prequel trilogy progressively improved from the awful TPM to the rather thrilling ROTS, but one thing all three prequel movies lacked was a sense of joy. Even the 'dark' The Empire Strike Back had plenty of moments of levity, mainly between Leia and Solo ("scruffy-looking Nerf-herder" indeed), and Lando's constant refrain that "this deal is getting worse all the time". :D
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Fri, 7 Nov 2014, 16:39
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Thu, 6 Nov 2014, 18:14
I just hope they have learned from the mistakes of the prequel trilogy and will bring us something better, more akin to the classics.
I think the prequel trilogy progressively improved from the awful TPM to the rather thrilling ROTS, but one thing all three prequel movies lacked was a sense of joy. Even the 'dark' The Empire Strike Back had plenty of moments of levity, mainly between Leia and Solo ("scruffy-looking Nerf-herder" indeed), and Lando's constant refrain that "this deal is getting worse all the time". :D
Yes! I nearly said this myself but I never saw Revenge of the Sith so I wasn't sure if I'd be speaking out of turn lol. But the first two seemed just so miserable. I guess it is because these were supposed to be miserable times but yea. lol
I liked ROTS a lot more than the first two, but it can't really compare to the original trilogy.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Fri, 7 Nov 2014, 19:08
I liked ROTS a lot more than the first two, but it can't really compare to the original trilogy.
This is my ranking:
Episode V>IV>VI>III>II>I
Basically, if you watch the films in sequential order they more or less improve with each film (I don't think there's a lot between Episodes IV, V and VI).
Now, here's a question: if you had a kid which order would you introduce them to the series? I don't think it would be a good idea to start them off with Episode I because it would immediately put them off all the others. :-\
This is my suggested order:
Episode IV, V (basically ending on the Vader reveal), than a flashback to I, II, III (which explains Anakin/Vader's backstory and how he got to become and man/machine he ended up as), and then we end triumphantly with the upbeat Episode VI.
How the new trilogy will fit into all this I don't know. ;D
I like your ranking and viewing order! I'd just flashback to III and skip I and II though. ;D
The new trilogy will be a "sequel trilogy", won't it? So it would come after episode VI, I guess.
Well Attack of the Clones is my personal least favorite. But not funnily enough for the reasons a typical fan may first think, the rather "yawn infested" Anakin and Queen Amidala romance which I'm sure you'll all first assume? Despite the dialogue between them being at times awkward I found it all the more interesting than what fans give it credit for because we're basically watching the origins of Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia here. And this I found fascinating to see. More so in fact than an army of 200 cgi Jedi! Shame it couldn't have been better written.
I think Revenge of the Sith should have focused more on Anakin's anxieties about becoming a father and what that meant to him among everything else. It all got sort of lost there in that General Grievous/Sidious plot. Luke and Leia's birth in the final act gets sort of tacked on out of nowhere because basically everybody else was more interested in seeing Vader dumped in lava. Although it's all still very good it didn't flow naturally enough for me or wasn't given the special focus I hoped to see. For example I used to imagine the back-story Obi Wan describes to Luke about how he was hidden by Vader when he was born in Return of the Jedi. It all seemed quite perverse and scary sounding to me and may have made for a tense sequence if done correctly. Instead Obi Wan's hides the kids relatively easy. That final act of Revenge of the Sith is simply rushed far too quickly to wrap everything up. They could have done with dumping that massively overlong opening sequence on Grievous's ship and getting to the juicier parts they ran out of time for.
In Clones I hated the overuse of digital effects. Digital Yoda is particularly disgraceful. At least Phantom Menace was a purer film made in a slightly purer time with actual sets, locations and old fashioned space ship models still being used.
At least in the prequel films you get the babe that is Natalie Portman lol I just ignored Jar Jar and watched her (strange that nobody else seemed to do so?). Unfortunately her character gets really bland in the last two. In Phantom Menace she was kinda cool and more like Princess Leia, racing into battle with her armed guards and all that. Turning her into a dull political obsessed senator really destroyed her coolness for me. Having her being looked after like a damsel in distress by Anakin (a guy five years her junior no less) was even worse in Sith.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Fri, 7 Nov 2014, 19:35
I like your ranking and viewing order! I'd just flashback to III and skip I and II though. ;D
The new trilogy will be a "sequel trilogy", won't it? So it would come after episode VI, I guess.
Don't you need to watch I and II to fully understand the story leading up to III etc? Actually, I don't think I is all that essential. One can easily skip to Anakin as a teenager and understand all that has gone befor without sitting through the interminable podrace, Jar Jar and that annoying kid they got to play pre-adolescent 'Annie'. ::)
I think you're right about the new trilogy, but I don't know if there will be any twists that would be conducive to a non-linear viewing order.
Darth Vader is an interesting character and an iconic villain. But "Anakin Skywalker" ? Not so much, I think. All we know is that he was a Jedi and Luke's father who turned to the dark side. He works best in the original trilogy because we only see the calm and yet menacing lord Vader and not child "Annie" or the stereotypical teenager Anakin, or the Darth Vader who shouts "NOOOOO!" in the most corny way possible. :-\
Oh god Anakin was SOOOO annoying in Attack of the Clones. Teen angst sucks in every galaxy.
The teaser has been released.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMCcOt9zfro
Not sure about that lightsaber lol. But I'm so damn excited!
I can't stand Star Wars anymore. My enthusiasm has been crushed, and this trailer was underwhelming.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 23:44
I can't stand Star Wars anymore. My enthusiasm has been crushed, and this trailer was underwhelming.
Mesa thinka that no good.
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 23:58
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 23:44
I can't stand Star Wars anymore. My enthusiasm has been crushed, and this trailer was underwhelming.
Mesa thinka that no good.
;D
Mesa thinks that no Jaja or baby Ani makes mesa hopeful.
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 22:25
Not sure about that lightsaber lol. But I'm so damn excited!
To the skilled user it would do exactly what a real life crossguard would do...which is block attacks more effectively.
Besides, the sith seem to always have more variety with their light sabers.
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 29 Nov 2014, 00:37
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri, 28 Nov 2014, 22:25
Not sure about that lightsaber lol. But I'm so damn excited!
To the skilled user it would do exactly what a real life crossguard would do...which is block attacks more effectively.
Besides, the sith seem to always have more variety with their light sabers.
Yeah you're right. Darth Maul's for instance. I thought it was badass. Of course I'm like the one person I know who liked The Phantom Menace lol. And Count Dookie (yes, I'm 8 years old) with his curved handle.
Apparently there is like some outrage about the black guy being a trooper since apparently the Empire never branched out from the Jango Fett clones. Just a hunch but after losing millions in two Death Stars plus the rest of the ass kicking they got from the Rebels kind of makes me think they had to hire some outside help lol.
That's just taking fanboyism too far. Hell he may be a good guy who like infiltrated the troopers like Han and Luke when they rescued Leia.
WONDERFUL interview with Mark Hamill :)
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mark-hamill-on-playing-with-the-star-wars-the-105015597302.html
So excited for this. But they better not kill off Luke or Leia or Han or Chewie or R2D2 and C3PO or Lando or I will be pissed! On top of being completely emotionally shattered.Don't mess with a geek's childhood.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 13 Dec 2014, 17:45
WONDERFUL interview with Mark Hamill :)
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/mark-hamill-on-playing-with-the-star-wars-the-105015597302.html
So excited for this. But they better not kill off Luke or Leia or Han or Chewie or R2D2 and C3PO or Lando or I will be pissed! On top of being completely emotionally shattered.Don't mess with a geek's childhood.
We all have to meet our maker some day Catwoman. Not all of us have nine lives. ;)
I don't mind if one or more of the original characters are killed off, as long as they die with dignity.
Shut up >:(
lol
I know WE have to meet our maker but there's not much reason why our wonderful fantasy characters should. Would you want them to do a Batman Beyond movie where Bruce dies? Eh, wrong person to ask, you'd cross your arms, nod, and mutter something about the Ice Princess so nevermind. :P
I'm sure if any of them go it will be Han Solo. Harrison wanted him to die in Return of the Jedi so I bet he gets his wish, if not in this one then in 8 or 9. Probably Chewie too, I bet they use the Millennium Falcon to block some big laser blast or something to give the new heroes a chance to save the day. Bleh. I will be sobbing lol.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 13 Dec 2014, 18:29
Shut up >:(
lol
I know WE have to meet our maker but there's not much reason why our wonderful fantasy characters should. Would you want them to do a Batman Beyond movie where Bruce dies? Eh, wrong person to ask, you'd cross your arms, nod, and mutter something about the Ice Princess so nevermind. :P
I'm sure if any of them go it will be Han Solo. Harrison wanted him to die in Return of the Jedi so I bet he gets his wish, if not in this one then in 8 or 9. Probably Chewie too, I bet they use the Millennium Falcon to block some big laser blast or something to give the new heroes a chance to save the day. Bleh. I will be sobbing lol.
They can die like heroes rather than feeble old men/wookies in a Tatooine retirement home. There's no light speed on a zimmer frame. :-\
There was an end to Batman Beyond where Terry found out he was Bruce's son. It showed Bruce in what appeared to be a state of dementia.
I haven't heard anyone's opinon on that.
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Sat, 13 Dec 2014, 19:18
They can die like heroes rather than feeble old men/wookies in a Tatooine retirement home. There's no light speed on a zimmer frame. :-\
Think they got some more years left in 'em before they become feeble. Look at Christopher Lee as Count Dooku. Nothing about him was conveyed as being brittle or weak. He was pretty bad ass actually, and I would assume Luke, even more so by the time of "The Force Awakens".
I'm sure the theme of 'passing of the guard' will be clear in Ep 7-8-9, but it's natural for alot of people to want to see the original trilogy characters stick around. All of them were key components in making Star Wars such a phenomenon, and with that, comes alot of attachment and interest in their further adventures. The expanded universe stuff certainly made that evident over the decades...