max is hot.
lol.
idk, i guess since i'm getting older and i always looked at him as like the old evil guy and never really LOOKED at him but now i'm older and FINALLY starting to maybe mature a little bit, i've started to find him more than a bit attractive in an evil power hungry sexist chauvanistic murderous sort of way. who knew i was even capable of such deductions? ;D of course he probably wound have defenestrated me a loooong time ago, but hey, who doesn't have their hang ups?
i promise i'm not losing my mind! but if i start coming onto OSWALD (yes i totally just trolled him there, see i'm only STARTING to mature) get me help IMMEDIATELY.
By the end of the movie, he was definitely hot ;)
HAHAHAHAHA
OMG
i freaking choked on the piece of hard candy i was sucking on when i read that. that was great!!!!
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has it been acknowledged that him being electrocuted at the end was kind of funny seeing as he was so eager for power earlier? he got it. lol.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 18 Oct 2014, 11:50
has it been acknowledged that him being electrocuted at the end was kind of funny seeing as he was so eager for power earlier? he got it. lol.
Remember, there's no such thing as too much power. Shame on you Catwoman. :P
Never realized how he ended up dying of "too much power." Clever, Burton. 8)
As a businessman, Shreck was charming and handsome, as well as cunning and manipulative. You need to ask yourself; who was the most dangerous villain of Batman Returns? In terms used by the Penguin, Shreck's "mask" was that of a lovable social figure
Quote from: Slash Man on Sun, 19 Oct 2014, 06:47
Never realized how he ended up dying of "too much power." Clever, Burton. 8)
As a businessman, Shreck was charming and handsome, as well as cunning and manipulative. You need to ask yourself; who was the most dangerous villain of Batman Returns? In terms used by the Penguin, Shreck's "mask" was that of a lOvable social figure
I was thinking about who is the most heinous villain in the Burton movies recently. Joker killed Bruce's parents gassed people to death, Penguin was a deviant, and Shreck was a cold blooded manipulator who didn't care who he hurt...except for his son. All of them are depraved, but at the same time they have some degree of humanity inside them. :-\
I'd say Joker was the worst. He did seem funny to us, but he even killed his closest friend Bob just because he was mad. And he was insane as Jack Napier too.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 19 Oct 2014, 07:16
I was thinking about who is the most heinous villain in the Burton movies recently. Joker killed Bruce's parents gassed people to death, Penguin was a deviant, and Shreck was a cold blooded manipulator who didn't care who he hurt...except for his son. All of them are depraved, but at the same time they have some degree of humanity inside them. :-\
I was just speaking in terms of Batman Returns, where indeed there were three villains, but people seem to discount Max because he's not a "super villain." But at the same time, he's still able to do a considerable amount of harm, and cover his tracks quite well.
In terms of the whole series, then yeah, I'd say the Joker. I actually believe there's no humanity left in him. In fact, it was gone when he was still Jack; he just covered it up. Keep in mind that Jack remorselessly killed Bruce's parents, and it looked like he would have pulled the trigger on a child Bruce if Joe didn't rush him away. This all culminated in the gassing of the city, where he just wanted to cause as much destruction as possible. Then there's smaller things, like killing Bob, and then attempting to kill Vicki the minute she chooses Batman over him.
It's true that Joker was the most cold-blooded out of all of them. Especially since he did awful things just for laughs.
But at the same time, I thought Shreck was very cunning and callous in the way he manipulated people just to get what he wanted.
max to me was the worst. the joker at least had insanity as an excuse.
Penguin was pretty bad too, he wanted to drown the babies.
Penguin just wanted attention and to be accepted. Not defending any of his plans, but he was driven that way by society.
I understand that his parents did the same to him but that's no reason to condemn innocent babies.
it's all he knows , though
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Tue, 21 Oct 2014, 20:47
I understand that his parents did the same to him but that's no reason to condemn innocent babies.
That's not really what I'm saying; the Penguin had murder and revenge on his mind when he tried to manipulate Shreck, but the idea of becoming accepted in society overrode that, and he actually put that aside. Once that went down again, he reverted back to his original intentions. Even though Batman caused that, you can't blame him because he was just looking out for himself.
I suppose. I don't blame him for that.
Max Shreck just looks so cool in this movie. He's got a handsome face and he's also got that really cool, fantasy hair and that suit is just so awesome. And he's really smart and says all sorts of clever things. I wouldn't mind being a good version of Max Shreck for a day maybe.
I've seen that hair in real life before, it's not a big fantasy. :P But yes, a Max Shreck using his genius and intuition (and other...assets...) for good would be nice
Max Shreck and some of the other people in Batman Returns kind of remind me of Dr. Seuss characters. The whole movie looks and feels like a dark version of a Dr. Seuss story in my humble opinion.
Quote from: JokerMeThis on Mon, 17 Nov 2014, 02:51
Max Shreck and some of the other people in Batman Returns kind of remind me of Dr. Seuss characters. The whole movie looks and feels like a dark version of a Dr. Seuss story in my humble opinion.
It's basically 'How the Grinch Stole Christmas' with DeVito as The Grinch. And far superior to the official 2000 version of that DR Seuss book IMHO.
I wasn't even thinking of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" specifically although I do see your point. Batman Returns just reminds me so much of Dr. Seuss' stories although much darker.
Also, Gotham seems like a fantasy world all on it's own with little to do with the real world at all.
Quote from: JokerMeThis on Mon, 17 Nov 2014, 05:10
I wasn't even thinking of "How the Grinch Stole Christmas" specifically although I do see your point. Batman Returns just reminds me so much of Dr. Seuss' stories although much darker.
Also, Gotham seems like a fantasy world all on it's own with little to do with the real world at all.
I kind of see this Gotham as a self-contained world like Whoville, contained within a snowglobe.
Still though there are some real life references that kind of attach Gotham to something resembling the real world. Like the references to Richard Nixon, Spiro Agnew, Ted Bundy and the movie "Psycho." I'm not under any illusions that there isn't a world outside of Gotham but I kind of like the idea anyway. But then Christmas didn't originate in Gotham or Whoville so maybe I'm thinking about it too hard.