Hey Everyone,
Omni Music Publishing is selling Danny Elfman's Full Orchestral Score to BATMAN in engraved book form. Last week they sold out by selling 100 copies in a single night. However, due to popular demand they have released a second printing. I have ordered mine. Although this release is not limited. I strongly recommend getting a copy before it goes out of print.
here are the details
http://www.omnimusicpublishing.com/
Is anyone interested or excited about this release?
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Another classic from Elfman! This score has been expertly engraved and handsomely bound. Contents include all 51 music cues from the film, several of which were written but never included in the final cut. Also included are a contents page, instrumentation list, and an exclusive interview with the composer about different aspects of this particular film-scoring process. A new feature is a short description along the top staff of key moments in the scene, which details how the music captures the drama of the film.
ยป364 pages. 9x12 inches. Paperbound, printed in U.S.A.
1. Titles
2. Family/1st Bat
3. Roof Fight
4. Jack Vs. Ekhardt
5. Up Building
6. Card Snap
7. Batzone
8. Axis Setup
9. Shootout
10. Kitchen Transition
11. Kitchen Dinner
12. Surgery
13. Stair Kiss
14. Faceoff
15. Beddy Bye
16. Morning After
17. Board Meeting
18. Roasted Dude
19. Vicki Spies
20. Clown Attack
21. Bruce Contemplates/Photos
22. Men At Work
23. T.V. News Theme
24. Joker's Commercial
25. Paper Spin
26. Alicia's Mask 27. Vicki Gets A Gift
28. Alicia's Unmasking
29. Resuce
30. Batmobile Chase
31. Street Fight
32. Vicki Hides Film
33. Descent Into Mystery
34. Batcave
35. Paper Throw
36. The Truth
37. Joker's Poem
38. Sad Pictures
39. "...Or Their Sons"
40. Challenge/Dream
41. Tender Batcave
42. Batsuit/Charge Of The Batmobile
43. Joker Flies To Gotham
44. Batwing I
45. Batwing II
46. Cathedral Chase
47. Waltz
48. Showdown I
49. Showdown II
50. Finale
51. End Credits
I checked the link when it first came up. It's pretty exciting THE BAT-MAN but unfortunately I don't have the cash for that type of purchase. I read music too so this would have been a great purchase for me.
Are you buying this THE BAT-MAN?
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Mon, 17 Feb 2014, 01:38
I checked the link when it first came up. It's pretty exciting THE BAT-MAN but unfortunately I don't have the cash for that type of purchase. I read music too so this would have been a great purchase for me.
Are you buying this THE BAT-MAN?
I have ordered a copy and can't wait for it to arrive. This is truly hands down, the best batman related purchase of my entire life.
so this is like danny's sheet music he used to make the movie? wow.
does any one know if the parts he wrote but didn't put in the movie were ever done like later? if only on a piano or something like that? kitten is curious
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 17 Feb 2014, 19:46
does any one know if the parts he wrote but didn't put in the movie were ever done like later? if only on a piano or something like that? kitten is curious
There are some cues that Elfman recorded himself that never made it in the final film.
Examples:
Wacky Worktape
http://youtu.be/LNV9MyiE614
Batwing Idea Worktape
http://youtu.be/5XNFZtAJT5U
Wild Theme Worktape
http://youtu.be/qM9eIrJXtKo
Waltz With Weird Unused Ending Worktape
http://youtu.be/SO6QV_Ho5iQ
Waltz Music Box Worktape
http://youtu.be/vjANCH3ixtA
Axis Worktape
http://youtu.be/1eupMlUPcPM
Herrmann esque Thing
http://youtu.be/x7fZwD9CbYY
Unused Early Title Idea
http://youtu.be/wKp9EEZ8utQ
Jokers Commercial
http://youtu.be/KoLn5H7pIoU
And then there are some cues that were recorded with a live orchestra that never made it in the final film.
Examples
Joker Flies To Gotham
http://youtu.be/Z_vdDmzKgsA
Joker's Muzak (unused)
http://youtu.be/IDoKOBbZwy4
Batman To The Rescue Original Ending
http://youtu.be/NZtlDxtHaJk
Main Title (Alt 1)
http://youtu.be/4uTL6dHPGVY
Main Title (Alt 2)
http://youtu.be/8sNpwT3j2Es
i will listen to those later but thank you!
You're Welcome.
Fantastic!
This is pretty awesome, but I'm very satsified with my LA LA Land Records Archival collection version of the score.
I just received this awesome book. And all I can say is, WOW!!! For those of you who haven't made a purchase of this book yet, you are truly missing out. Even if you don't read sheet music this is still a great batman related purchase. In my opinion it is definitively the best batman related purchase of my life.
There are some cool things that I think you guys will find very interesting. One of the these things is that when La La Land records released the 2 cd complete expanded archival score. There was a bonus cue that read "Joker's Muzak." Many have wondered what scene was this cue meant for? Well, I have the answer now, Thanks to owning this full score book. This particular cue title is FALSE, it has nothing to do with the Joker or his music. In fact this cue has more to do with the relationship between Vicki and Bruce. The true name of this cue title is called "The Truth." It was omitted from the final cut of the film, but it supposedly starts seconds after Alfred suggest's to Bruce, that he should try telling Vicki the truth and it ends when Bruce pushes Vicki.
Other Cues that didn't make it in the final cut of the film include:
"Morning After"
"Board Meeting"
"Vicki Hides Film"
"...Or Their Sons"
"Joker Flies To Gotham"
There is still alot more things to share, but I will save that for another time.
Fancy doing a review for the sites feature section?
Quote from: Paul (ral) on Mon, 24 Feb 2014, 14:45
Fancy doing a review for the sites feature section?
It would be my pleasure to write a review for the sites feature section.
Great.
Go to http://www.batman-online.com/index.php?features;action=edit (should be a link at the top anyway)
You should then have access to an editor that you can add the review and photos. Let me know if you need anything!
Thanks.
I found something that you guys might find interesting. According to Danny Elfman's own cue notes for 13M2 Waltz, which is written on the top of bar 11. It reads, "Dead Ninja." He is referring to the Joker henchman that attacks Batman before the waltz begins.
As seen on this clip. From the look of the clip it looks like Batman simply just hits him between the groin and knocks him out. However, I wonder if it was intended for the henchman to be killed by Batman's spring glove device or if it was just an expression on Danny's notes. Danny's cue note for bar 10 reads, "Contact" which is on the 0:13 sec mark of the clip. While bar 11 deals with the aftermath and reads, "Dead Ninja" which is on the 0:15 sec mark of the clip.
http://youtu.be/Vx3Zen-Knrk
THE BAT-MAN's review is here:
http://www.batman-online.com/features/2014/2/28/review-omni-music-publishing-batman-1989-sheet-music-collection
Good review! It's interesting how a film's secrets can be detected in its film score. I wonder if the 'dead ninja' reference relates to the goon who jumps through the floorboards and accidentally kills himself. Or was there originally a longer confrontation between Batman and the first goon in the bell tower which resulted in the latter's death?
The book sounds fascinating. But while I'm a fan of classical music, and have studied the violin and cello, I think a lot of this material would still go over my head. It's probably best suited for musicians with a deeper understanding of composition and orchestration. But it sound like a very interesting book.
I'm not sure the Latin translation of the 'Descent into Mystery' vocals is accurate though. I'd have to revise my Latin vocab to be certain, but it looks a little off to me. But I could be wrong. Embarrassingly, I didn't even recognise it as real Latin until now. I'll listen more carefully the next time I watch it.
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 2 Mar 2014, 17:01
Good review! It's interesting how a film's secrets can be detected in its film score. I wonder if the 'dead ninja' reference relates to the goon who jumps through the floorboards and accidentally kills himself. Or was there originally a longer confrontation between Batman and the first goon in the bell tower which resulted in the latter's death?
The book sounds fascinating. But while I'm a fan of classical music, and have studied the violin and cello, I think a lot of this material would still go over my head. It's probably best suited for musicians with a deeper understanding of composition and orchestration. But it sound like a very interesting book.
I'm not sure the Latin translation of the 'Descent into Mystery' vocals is accurate though. I'd have to revise my Latin vocab to be certain, but it looks a little off to me. But I could be wrong. Embarrassingly, I didn't even recognise it as real Latin until now. I'll listen more carefully the next time I watch it.
Thanks for the reply, I'm glad you thought the review was good. The "Dead Ninja" cue note reference does not relate to the 2nd goon, that jumps and falls through the floor. That is inaccurate. The book clearly shows that the "Dead Ninja" cue (Bar 11) is referring to the 1st goon that get's hit by Batman's spring glove device. The 2nd goon that falls through the floor boards doesn't pop up until (Bar 33) and he goes through the floor on (Bar 35).
I feel it shouldn't matter whether somone knows how to read sheet music or not. Anyone, who is truly a devoted Batman 89 Fan and a Danny Elfman fan could appreciate this book and be able to learn something from it. I didn't know that you studied both the violin and cello that sounds awesome.
I too, have some doubts regarding the Latin translations for "Descent Into Mystery." However, the book shows both latin and english translations. The book also shows that the lyrics translations were permitted by Prof. John M. Oksanish, PhD.
Also, according to Janet K. Halfyard's book (Batman: A Film Score Guide) the lyrics comprises both latin and solfege.
Has anyone made a purchase of this book yet?
Here is Danny's unused cue 10M1 The Truth presented for the first time with the scene from BATMAN.
http://youtu.be/bM-RMprfcto
So this is where it was supposed to go according to Elfman's notes? I only ask, because it also seems to fit just after the "nice girl and i like you a lot but for now shut up.." and he starts trying to explain who he is.
It does seem to fit - given it has hints of the Love theme in it.
It does feel a little jarring for 2 reasons, I've never seen the scene that that! and also the music is a little overbearing on the dialogue.
Great post!
Quote from: Paul (ral) on Thu, 26 Jun 2014, 13:09
So this is where it was supposed to go according to Elfman's notes? I only ask, because it also seems to fit just after the "nice girl and i like you a lot but for now shut up.." and he starts trying to explain who he is.
It does seem to fit - given it has hints of the Love theme in it.
It does feel a little jarring for 2 reasons, I've never seen the scene that that! and also the music is a little overbearing on the dialogue.
Great post!
Hey Paul, Thank you for your reply. Yes, this is where the music was originally intended to be according to Elfman's own cue notes. The cue notes written above Bar 2 says [Cut Door] Bar 4 says [Opens] and the last Bar in the score which is Bar 18 says [Bruce Pushes Vicki]. As for the music being a little overbearing with the dialogue. I was having a bit of trouble with mixing the music with the audio. Anyway, I personally like the score with the scene. I still can't believe that La La Land Records made the bizarre mistake of calling this cue "Joker's Muzak" and giving us misinformation in their liner notes.
It's definitely worth highlighting on the site!
Where'd the video go?
We were playing around with audio levels Kamdan. It will be posted as a feature tomorrow! My fault for being slow getting it up on the site!
Regarding "Joker's Muzak", when we were producing the La-La Land album, we didn't have access to the printed score now in your possession. We did have very crude dot matrix printed spotting notes from 1989, that weren't the most detailed. I've seen spotting notes broken down by frame. In comparison, the Batman spotting notes gave a description of a scene and a running time. For "The Truth" the spotting notes indicated 10 seconds followed by "Joker's Muzak" which was closer to the running time of the cue we had so we went with the info available. I'm glad this mystery was solved and I'll be sure to re-title "The Truth" and sequence it appropriately in my iTunes.
Neil
Quote from: CarterOfMars on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 01:26
Regarding "Joker's Muzak", when we were producing the La-La Land album, we didn't have access to the printed score now in your possession. We did have very crude dot matrix printed spotting notes from 1989, that weren't the most detailed. I've seen spotting notes broken down by frame. In comparison, the Batman spotting notes gave a description of a scene and a running time. For "The Truth" the spotting notes indicated 10 seconds followed by "Joker's Muzak" which was closer to the running time of the cue we had so we went with the info available. I'm glad this mystery was solved and I'll be sure to re-title "The Truth" and sequence it appropriately in my iTunes.
Neil
Thanks for replying, Neil. I'm glad I was able to help solve this mystery.
Two more things. Since no music appears in reel 10 until the Percy Faith recording of "Beautiful Dreamer" it was another reason why we thought this cue would be "Joker's Muzak". This wasn't done haphazardly. It was an educated guess made with all of the facts available at the time.
I also read speculation in this thread that perhaps "Joker's Muzak" is the hidden easter egg on disc 2 at the end. No, that's the celeste isolated from "Beddy Bye".
Neil
Quote from: CarterOfMars on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 23:58
I also read speculation in this thread that perhaps "Joker's Muzak" is the hidden easter egg on disc 2 at the end. No, that's the celeste isolated from "Beddy Bye".
Neil
Thanks for clearing that up. The reason I had thought that the hidden easter egg on disc 2 near the end was possiblly "Joker's Muzak" was because the use of the choir in the backround starting at the 6:02 mark was humming a humorous version of Photos/Beautiful Dreamer. The choir itself sounds like they had been affected by Joker's laughing gas. Because this version of the score had never before been heard I thought it would make a for good reason to call it Joker's Muzak as it sounds very Jokeresque. Although the celeste instrument that is islolated from "Beddy Bye" doesn't appear until much later on at the 6:54 mark. Anyway, Thank you again for sharing Neil.
http://youtu.be/qtJO-bJyW6A
Quote from: THE BAT-MAN on Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 00:39
Quote from: CarterOfMars on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 23:58
I also read speculation in this thread that perhaps "Joker's Muzak" is the hidden easter egg on disc 2 at the end. No, that's the celeste isolated from "Beddy Bye".
Neil
Thanks for clearing that up. The reason I had thought that the hidden easter egg on disc 2 at the end was possiblly "Joker's Muzak" was because the use of the choir in the backround starting at the 6:02 mark was humming a humorous version of Beautiful Dreamer. Which to me is very Jokeresque. Although the celeste instrument that is islolated from "Beddy Bye" doesn't appear until much later on at the 6:54 mark.
I'm not sure where you're getting those times from. The cue doesn't run that long. The first part is vocally slated 7m1/2 which is "Photos/Beautiful Dreamer". They did a pick up ending for that cue (we present both on the album) and then we end the album with the celeste from "Beddy Bye" (5m3).
Neil
I'm sorry Neil, I was trying to modify my previous post as shown here again.
Quote from: THE BAT-MAN on Tue, 15 Jul 2014, 00:39
Quote from: CarterOfMars on Mon, 14 Jul 2014, 23:58
I also read speculation in this thread that perhaps "Joker's Muzak" is the hidden easter egg on disc 2 at the end. No, that's the celeste isolated from "Beddy Bye".
Neil
Thanks for clearing that up. The reason I had thought that the hidden easter egg on disc 2 near the end was possiblly "Joker's Muzak" was because the use of the choir in the backround starting at the 6:02 mark was humming a humorous version of Photos/Beautiful Dreamer. The choir itself sounds like they had been affected by Joker's laughing gas. Because this version of the score had never before been heard I thought it would make a for good reason to call it Joker's Muzak as it sounds very Jokeresque. Although the celeste instrument that is islolated from "Beddy Bye" doesn't appear until much later on at the 6:54 mark. Anyway, Thank you again for sharing Neil.
http://youtu.be/qtJO-bJyW6A
We got our feature up (finally). Apologies for my delay!
http://www.batman-online.com/features/2014/9/12/bruce-and-vicki-apartment-scene-from-batman-1989-like-never-before-with-danny-elfman-score
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7SSBbxVMIA
A very interesting feature. And good job on the editing.
I can't decide if I prefer the scene with or without the music. :-\
It works as a transition piece between the two locations, from .37 to .46 - but I don't think it works during the dialogue.
I think you're right. It's a beautiful piece of music, and as you say, it helps facilitate the scene transition. But the dialogue in the apartment scene has a naturalistic, overlapping rhythm to it. The gentle, romantic tempo of the music doesn't really match that.
The scene does not require music. The music makes it feel soap-operish, and the Bruce/Vicki relationship was not of those proportions. This wasn't an epic lovesick puppy thing. It was a woman interested in a mysterious outsider. Bruce bangs this woman as a result and then discards her to the side as his war and parents takes precedence. He's made to feel guilty for his behaviour by Alfred. He briefly entertains the idea of a proper relationship but I'd argue his heart was never truly really sincere. The presence of music makes it something it's not.