I think this video is slightly better than the whole movie :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ateQQc-AgEM
The song certainly is, as is 'Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me' and I don't even usually care that much for U2.
Man, KFAR takes me back. That whole summer was awesome but that movie and that music video... It's like being 14 all over again any time I see it. The excitement and anticipation of a new Batman movie!! Man, there's just nothing like it. No, the whole thing wasn't as insanely huge as B89 had been but the entire marketing effort had a real energy and intensity to it. Everybody involved with the movie did promo stuff determined to prove that they had the goods that summer, Batman is back and the competition had better run for cover! The video gave the impression (which the final product somewhat delivered on) that Forever was going to look like equal parts Neal Adams and Dick Sprang with a little Frank Miller, Bruce Timm and Norm Breyfogle for good measure.
If I may say so, the comics were also firing on all cylinders. Two Face, Tim and Dick "coincidentally" played major parts of the 1995 comics but it didn't feel like marketing stuff. It really came off organic to most of the stories.
The summer of 1995 was an awesome time to be a Batman fan!
2008 was a good time too for me, I was only one year old in 1995 ;D
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Fri, 12 Jul 2013, 04:45
2008 was a good time too for me, I was only one year old in 1995 ;D
You're a baby. ;D
Yes but I do my homework :D
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Fri, 12 Jul 2013, 04:452008 was a good time too for me, I was only one year old in 1995 ;D
Eh, 2008 was marred for me in that the media narrative was "this isn't just a good Batman film; it's a good
FILM". I never knew what to make of that pretentious BS. What, directing Batman movies is usually the cinematic equivalent of the Special Olympics so thank God that Chris Nolan is here to show us plebes what it's all about? Look, if you've got happy memories of that era, more power to you, but I felt talked down to the entire time.
The Dark Knight is a Batman film no matter how much they will try to turn it into something else.
The Dark Knight Rises, though, is more a Nolan film than a Batman film to be honest. ;D
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 12 Jul 2013, 04:57
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Fri, 12 Jul 2013, 04:452008 was a good time too for me, I was only one year old in 1995 ;D
Eh, 2008 was marred for me in that the media narrative was "this isn't just a good Batman film; it's a good FILM". I never knew what to make of that pretentious BS. What, directing Batman movies is usually the cinematic equivalent of the Special Olympics so thank God that Chris Nolan is here to show us plebes what it's all about? Look, if you've got happy memories of that era, more power to you, but I felt talked down to the entire time.
To be fair, you make a good point here. I am a big fan of TDK but I agree that some of the coverage surrounding the film felt condescending to the fans of previous comic-book, particularly Batman films. I'd also argue that if one wants to point to a comic-book movie that transcends its genre Batman Returns is a far better example than TDK. I don't personally think it's a better film but in many ways I think it is a more impressive cinematic achievement than TDK which is still a fairly safe film, a Michael Mann thriller which stays very close to its comic-book source.
Christmas 1998, I got three Batman action-figures + Robin and the 1989 toy Batmobile :)
Still we don't know what happened to Selina Kyle...because according to the last scenes of Batman Returns, she did survive. All we got is a reference from Chase.
to get us back on topic
*sings loudly*
BABAAAAY! i compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey. OOOOO the more i get of you the stranger it feels, yea-ea. now that your rose is in bloom, a light hits the gloom on the grayyyyyyyy
;D
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 13 Jul 2013, 00:40
to get us back on topic
*sings loudly*
BABAAAAY! i compare you to a kiss from a rose on the grey. OOOOO the more i get of you the stranger it feels, yea-ea. now that your rose is in bloom, a light hits the gloom on the grayyyyyyyy
;D
Ahhhh. Help me! My ears. They're bleeding! :P
For a long time, I mean years, I thought Seal was singing 'kiss from a rose from the grave'.
That may be my morbid sensibilities, but I liked the concept of Bruce's parents 'kissing' Bruce back for leaving flowers on their graves. :-\
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 13 Jul 2013, 01:50
For a long time, I mean years, I thought Seal was singing 'kiss from a rose from the grave'.
That's what I thought. What does 'kiss from a rose from the grey' mean? Dark Knight, your interpretation makes more sense, even if it does turn out to be wrong.
i looked it up on songfacts a few weeks ago to try to find out what the hell he was talking about. no luck lol.
I always thought he said "gray" because light and darkness are strong parts of the song's imagery. Seemed like the better match.
Of course, he goes on to compare love to an addictive drug so what do I know?
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 13 Jul 2013, 01:50
For a long time, I mean years, I thought Seal was singing 'kiss from a rose from the grave'.
That may be my morbid sensibilities, but I liked the concept of Bruce's parents 'kissing' Bruce back for leaving flowers on their graves. :-\
This reading makes more sense to me in terms of the film's themes (including Bruce's guilt regarding his parents' death) than 'a kiss from the grey'.
Yes, but it's really grey, not grave, even if "grave" would be more meaningful.
he did the song like long before the movie even came out so it's not like he wrote it thinking about batman lol
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 13 Jul 2013, 10:57
he did the song like long before the movie even came out so it's not like he wrote it thinking about batman lol
;D Good point. I'd forgotten about that. It was a re-released single too.
Still, I don't care for 'grey'. The colour grey is dull and drab. 'Grave' sounds more interesting.
Grey usually means either neutrality or the middle path. Or, in our hero's case, finding balance between Batman and Bruce Wayne.
Grey can also be what johnnygobbs said, it can be very depressing.
and it is ON the grey. not FROM the grey.
I had a dream last night about this very music video, and when I woke up I immediately played it. It was awesome :)
I just wanted to say that Kiss from a Rose with the Batman Foreever music video still works so well, it's briliant!
During the summer of 1995 this song played EVERYWHERE. And I mean EVERYWHERE. UK radio was totally invaded. Think Bryan Adams and the domination of his Robin Hood soundtrack.
I guess Warner Bros were very happy after the lack of success with their Siouxsie and the Banshees effort. They got what they wanted third time around. Airplay attack.
It's a brilliant song but U2 was my personal favourite. I don't think you'll ever get a better Batman rock song soundtrack than that now. A killer guitar riff that my dad idolized when playing his Gibson Les Paul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B-Qqu-1cMc
I remember I saw this fan edit of the music video several years ago. Nice way to honour Keaton, I reckon. ;)
Wow, I didn't know about it. Great find. :)
Quote from: Cobblepot4Mayor on Fri, 14 Nov 2014, 17:11
It's a brilliant song but U2 was my personal favourite.
Face to Face, Kiss From a Rose and Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me are the holy trinity.
I always thought Boulevard of Broken Dreams would've been a good song to promote Begins.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 4 Feb 2016, 05:49Face to Face, Kiss From a Rose and Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me, Kill Me are the holy trinity.
I'd replace HMTMKMKM with either Smashing Pumpkins song from B&R. But yeah I pretty much agree.
I adore the five songs mentioned. I would ask if we could add "I Never Even Told You" from Mask of the Phantasm but I guess that'd screw up the badass vibe lol.
Face to Face is my favorite but I also like Hold Me Thrill Me Kiss Me Kill Me and of course Kiss from a Rose too.
... And I love Jack dancing to Prince.
And the 60's music for the Batusi. :)
Quote from: Catwoman on Fri, 5 Feb 2016, 06:16
I would ask if we could add "I Never Even Told You" from Mask of the Phantasm
How did I forget that classic?
It's definitely worthy of mention.
Even before I became an involved Batman fan, I loved this song and associated it with the film growing up... :)
There's nothing more subjective than music, especially songs..
F2F is the one I really like and the one by Smashing Pumpkins (which was also used as trailer music for Watchmen) is my fav from the Schumacher era.
the U2 song always reminded me of the Riddler for some reason.
Quote from: galenj01 on Thu, 11 Feb 2016, 21:24
the U2 song always reminded me of the Riddler for some reason.
I always think of the song that plays when he's trying to come up with his costume after "terminating" his boss. "You hate your boss at your job, but in your dreams you can blow his head off..."
Singing that one in front of my mom was not the best idea of my life. Humming it in front of one of my bosses wasn't either but fortunately he'd never seen the movie/heard the song apparently.
"guess what i did today"
haha Nygma cracks me up.
I've read a comment saying that Kiss From a Rose was the least Batman-sounding song ever... but for me it's such a great one to listen to in any case, and the short clips from the movie go on very well with Seal singing next to the Bat-signal that I've never thought about whether it fits Batman or not.
i know it fit with the film too
The song makes a return to the screen later this year in a....unusual way. Check out 0:52! "Baaaah!!-Bay!..." LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=esSjfWbDUck
Has anybody ever thought that this song is a better fit for Batman Returns than Batman Forever? Every time I listen to it I'm reminded of Bruce and Selina's relationship.
Quote from: BatmanFurst on Sat, 2 Feb 2019, 00:35
Has anybody ever thought that this song is a better fit for Batman Returns than Batman Forever? Every time I listen to it I'm reminded of Bruce and Selina's relationship.
I always felt "Face to Face" accurately summed them up so I never thought about it, but you are right. :)
Actually, the more I think of it, I seem to recall a video on YouTube set to images and clips from Returns. Like wayyyyyyyy back before I even joined this site (coming up on 10 years).
The song wasn't really written for any movie. But reading the lyrics, it compares the redeeming effects of love to an addictive drug. In a weird kind of way, the writer is saying that virtue of someone he considers better than him brings out the best in him.
Bluntly, I don't see how that applies to Selina at all, considering how she is so similar to (or even more f**ked up than) Bruce.
To be fair, it doesn't completely apply to Chase either but I can see a closer match with her than I can Selina.
In my interpretation it's about Bruce's commitment to Gotham.
How he sees the goodness through the city's gloom, justifying his addiction (crimefighting) to keep going.
You remain my power, my pleasure, my pain
To me, you're like a growing, addiction that I can't deny
Won't you tell me, is that healthy, baby?
But did you know that when it snows
My eyes become large and the light that you shine can be seen?