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Title: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Tue, 12 Feb 2013, 20:43
That's what IGN is reporting.

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/02/12/news-new-batman-arkham-game-coming-this-year

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/02/12/new-batman-arkham-game-coming-this-year
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 13 Feb 2013, 04:32
It looks like it's pretty much a done deal. A third Arkham game will be in our hands this year. You can't imagine how pumped I am about this. 60s Batman, Burton, TAS/Beyond and the Arkhamverse. Those are my highpoints.

Those name registrations were certainly an indicator something was up. I imagine they are some way through developing the game, maybe been at it for a good part of a year. They took their time with Arkham City, and it showed. Now...let the information trickle out!
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Azrael on Wed, 13 Feb 2013, 05:45
Later this year? (Possibly Fall, like the previous two games). I really had fingers crossed that "Arkham 3" would be for the current hardware gen, now this seems likely.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 13 Feb 2013, 06:51
I have since discovered Rocksteady won't be involved. That's a big downer.

Just what is it with the third entries in a series?

Of course, I'll wait and see how things develop, but this news makes me cautious.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Bobthegoon89 on Thu, 14 Feb 2013, 22:10
Hmmm getting a tad greedy aren't they? Just pumping out the Arkham games now. Two was enough. Still a lack of Batman action this year so I guess for some it's good news. I'm more interested in a 60's tv show dvd release or a Hot Toys Batman Returns line.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Azrael on Fri, 15 Feb 2013, 09:08
Rocksteady not being involved makes one cautious indeed. Still, the studio was unproven before Asylum (they had one good game under their belt) so a change of guard isn't necessarily a bad thing, if Rocksteady is busy with other things and can't be involved. There's precedent of developers taking over franchises created by someone else with the results being good. I don't think Warner would do rushed and stupid things with a series as profitable as Arkham - at least they get their games (Mortal Kombat 2011 included) right.

One thing, if work hasn't started since at least 2012 (Rocksteady had done a basic outline for City while Asylum was still WIP), a 2013 release is impossible, seeing this news I assumed that was the case.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 15 Feb 2013, 12:07
Quote from: Bobthegoon89 on Thu, 14 Feb  2013, 22:10
Hmmm getting a tad greedy aren't they? Just pumping out the Arkham games now. Two was enough.
If products are quality, the more the merrier. We need more information about this before passing true judgement. We've got bare bones at the moment. For example if the AA/AC gameplay template is followed, things are pretty much half way there.

Quote from: Bobthegoon89 on Thu, 14 Feb  2013, 22:10
I'm more interested in a 60's tv show dvd release or a Hot Toys Batman Returns line.
In terms of existing material, indeed, those are big on my radar. Love BR but the 60s show getting an official release takes precedence. Toys and the like are spin-offs. Its the footage itself that matters.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Paul (ral) on Fri, 15 Feb 2013, 12:25
http://www.batman-online.com/news/2013/2/13/could-next-arkham-game-be-announced-as-next-gen-soon
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Azrael on Fri, 15 Feb 2013, 12:52
Well then, anyone that cares will probably know more when the actual next gen systems by Sony and MS are unveiled.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: riddler on Sat, 23 Feb 2013, 02:33
I think this is a little too soon, we have batman in the injustice game this year and it's also meaning less than 10 months of development (compared to the amount for AC) and the next gen coming.
Title: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Paul (ral) on Sat, 23 Feb 2013, 02:36
This year could mean financial year...which goes into 2014.

Also I am getting the vide that this has been in production for a while now...they're just leaking parts of it now.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 3 Feb 2017, 00:51
I will use this thread instead of creating a new one, because it's the same message.

Is another Batman game about to be announced on March 8?

https://nowloading.co/p/save-the-date-batman-image-wb-montreal/4200959?utm_source=fb-stream-post&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=new-save-the-date-image-teases-batman-game-to-be-announced-soon

If so, I'm guessing it's the Damian Wayne/Batman Beyond game. Which I have really warmed up to for a number of reasons. I love these games but it's time for a change in the template. It has become predicatable. Damien represents a change. He would have a totally different batsuit, different vehicles, gadgets and personality. Bruce would still have a supporting role, and the fact Damian has a more ruthless upbringing could cause tensions between the two.

Seeing how the Arkham world evolved years into the future interests me.

What about you?
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 3 Feb 2017, 00:58
What if I told you I still haven't played Arkham Knight yet, and the last game I played in the franchise was Arkham Origins: Blackgate?  :-[
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 4 Feb 2017, 05:34
I'm a big fan of what the video games have done with the Batman mythos in recent times. Arkham Knight and the Telltale game introduced bold concepts and had the guts to follow through. Arkham Knight had Batman unmasked on live TV. It doesn't really get any bigger than that. Except the Telltale game did this: They reimagined Thomas Wayne as a member of the Falcone crime ring. He was involved in assassinations and laundering money. He was locking people up in Arkham, taking their land and injecting them with a serum to make them insane.

It's really radical but I love it. It's their reason behind how the Wayne's became so rich. It shatters Bruce's perception of his father, but he can still strive to be his own man. Proving to the City he is nothing like that, while still enjoying the riches his seedy father gained via crime. It's so fresh. Same thing with the Telltale version of the Batmobile. It's a sports car that morphs into the Batmobile. So it's a two in one multi-use scenario. I'm not sure if we've ever had that before in Batman history.

As for this possible new game, I'd also like a pure Arkham Origins 2. Origins is one of the best Batman games in existence, so the same creative team coming back would be great. As long as they introduced new gameplay ideas. I'm hoping Rocksteady are creating a Superman game, and WB Montreal continue the Arkhamverse, as rumors suggest. Arkham Knight sure did have a lot of Superman universe Easter eggs, so it could be true. Rocksteady are known for planting hints as to their future projects.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Feb 2017, 12:48
Someone claiming to be a WB Montreal employee says the March 8 reveal is an Arkham Origins sequel called Arkham Insurgency.

They claim:
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1. It's been in development since 2014 and takes place three years after events in Batman Arkham Origins.

2. Playable characters will include Batman and Robin, with Dick Grayson once again playing the part of Robin.

3. It will introduce a new location in Gotham, a coastal area that he claims will be "the same size as the three islands from Arkham Knight."

4. Players can fast travel to the Batcave and Wayne Manor.

5. The Batmobile mechanics have been tweaked and controls have been modified. Battle mode has been ditched, and they'll be a larger focus on chase sequences and the weaponry of the Batmobile.

6. Combat has been improved, and made more in-depth. "It's still rhythm based where you have to time all the correct button presses exactly, but it's more complicated than the attack/counter basis of the previous games." They'll also be boss battles!

7. Villains will include: Maxie Zeus, Dollmaker, Killer Moth, Anarky, Two-Face, Blockbuster, Ventriloquist, Cornelius Stirk, Tweedledee and Tweedledum, Dusan al Ghul, Mad Monk, Dala, Riddler and Joker.

8. Owlman is the main villain in the game, alongside the Court of Owls, and Talons will be elite enemies.

9. Roger Craig Smith and Troy Baker are reprising their roles from Origins.

Batman Arkham Insurgency is rumored to release in November 2017, though it could be pushed back.

Let's see if this eventuates.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BatmanArkham/comments/5vwffl/spoilers_i_really_dont_give_a_damn_at_this_point/
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Feb 2017, 02:43
I've read about this rumour myself yesterday.

It's coming from somebody who claims to be a disgruntled employee at WB Montreal about cancelled projects and the Canadian studio is going to close down. But maybe there is truth in there. After all, Arkham Origins had a post-credits scene where Amanda Waller meets Deathstroke in Blackgate Penitentiary, which was clearly alluding to a Suicide Squad game. But three years later, nothing has happened.

As much as I loved Arkham Origins as I did with Arkham City, you can tell the game mechanics were nearly copied and pasted from City. Maybe they're going to do the same thing with this potentially new one by borrowing the game mechanics from Arkham Knight?
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Feb 2017, 03:24
Arkham Origins is my number one Arkham game.

WB Montreal were in an difficult position following Arkham City.

Retain the template of the previous two games and you're accused of doing a copy and paste job. Strike out on your own and you're accusing of betraying the spirit of the franchise given they didn't establish it. They were being viewed as caretakers while everyone was waiting for Rocksteady's next instalment.

Origins has the best story and characterisations.
The crime scene investigations were improved.
I loved the shock gloves.
I loved Batman's rougher methods and personality.
The Christmas theme and the snow.
The Deathstroke boss battle is a franchise standout.
The interactive Joker flashback sequence is outstanding.
Did Bane justice, before having to dumb him down again for continuity reasons.
Conroy is the legend, but Roger Craig Smith did a fine job, likewise with Baker.
We actually got to visit the real batcave and enter Wayne Manor.

So if this rumor is true, I'm excited.

Making the Batmobile a tank in AK wasn't the right choice in the end. It didn't really feel like Batman and became monotonous. If WB Montreal stripped it all back just as a fast car with gadgets, I'd welcome that.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: OutRiddled on Sun, 26 Feb 2017, 23:08
Love Arkham Origins, think it's a great underrated game.  My favourite villain is Anarky, and I hope the rumours are true and we get more of him.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Feb  2017, 02:43
After all, Arkham Origins had a post-credits scene where Amanda Waller meets Deathstroke in Blackgate Penitentiary, which was clearly alluding to a Suicide Squad game.

I thought it was alluding to that animated movie, Assault on Arkham.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Azrael on Mon, 27 Feb 2017, 00:12
"Arkham Origins = disappointment" is yet another case of how a few criticisms (valid when it comes to the glitches of the PC version) can blow way out of proportion. This was the first Arkham game I played almost the same day it was released, and loved it, without reading reviews and without being aware that I was supposed to feel disappointed.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 27 Feb 2017, 00:45
Quote from: OutRiddled on Sun, 26 Feb  2017, 23:08
Love Arkham Origins, think it's a great underrated game.  My favourite villain is Anarky, and I hope the rumours are true and we get more of him.
I really enjoyed the Anarky content, too. I think he's an underrated and under-utilised character. I bought the fourth volume of the BTAS collected comics, and he features in there too. His only appearance in the BTAS universe I believe.
Quote from: Azrael on Mon, 27 Feb  2017, 00:12
"Arkham Origins = disappointment" is yet another case of how a few criticisms (valid when it comes to the glitches of the PC version) can blow way out of proportion. This was the first Arkham game I played almost the same day it was released, and loved it, without reading reviews and without being aware that I was supposed to feel disappointed.
Yeah. I think the fact another developer made the game put it at an immediate disadvantage in terms of perception. The gameplay was enjoyable, but the story really engaged me. With no hesitation I name the AO Bane my favorite Bane outside of his first appearance in Knightfall. What they did with Bane breaking in to the batcave and leaving Alfred for dead was fantastic. This Bane was his own man, took orders from nobody - Joker included, and was a scary force of nature.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 27 Feb 2017, 11:01
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Feb  2017, 03:24
Arkham Origins is my number one Arkham game.

WB Montreal were in an difficult position following Arkham City.

Retain the template of the previous two games and you're accused of doing a copy and paste job. Strike out on your own and you're accusing of betraying the spirit of the franchise given they didn't establish it. They were being viewed as caretakers while everyone was waiting for Rocksteady's next instalment.

Origins has the best story and characterisations.
The crime scene investigations were improved.
I loved the shock gloves.
I loved Batman's rougher methods and personality.
The Christmas theme and the snow.
The Deathstroke boss battle is a franchise standout.
The interactive Joker flashback sequence is outstanding.
Did Bane justice, before having to dumb him down again for continuity reasons.
Conroy is the legend, but Roger Craig Smith did a fine job, likewise with Baker.
We actually got to visit the real batcave and enter Wayne Manor.

So if this rumor is true, I'm excited.

Making the Batmobile a tank in AK wasn't the right choice in the end. It didn't really feel like Batman and became monotonous. If WB Montreal stripped it all back just as a fast car with gadgets, I'd welcome that.

Don't forget the unique little counter-attacks, where after you block the first time you have half a second to quick perform another block. It was a bit of a bitch to time it the first time, but you once you got the hang of it, it made the combat more frenetic, even if it did break the free-flowing combat sometimes.

Batman and Alfred's tense relationship in the beginning was a nice exploration how the two didn't always see eye-to-eye, as was Gordon's prejudice against Batman.

My favourite boss battle is Firefly. It reminded me a bit of Poison Ivy in Arkham Asylum, but with gliding from bridge-to-bridge. I can't resist the corny line: "You say arsonist, I say arson-ISTE!"  ;D
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 24 Sep 2019, 10:50
There is a strong likelihood another Batman game will be announced soon by WB Montreal.

I've been wanting this for a very long time. I'd like something of quality to hold on to and genuinely anticipate. In recent times I have been jaded with the animated movies because something that used to be a great strength has now become a weakness. After Morrison and Snyder I've found the comics to be lacklustre. The Telltale series is amazing, but that revival seemingly has some way to go, and season two seems like a while ago now. The Batman and Pattinson have my full attention, but that's another longer term project.

A game by WB Montreal seems more within reach, and I do enjoy the world building that goes with anticipating these projects. The storyline, visuals, gameplay mechanics, voice acting and the like. I make no secret I think Arkham Origins is the best overall Batman game, so the prospect of a sequel is very welcome. Origins had the best boss fights and characterizations, and apart from the jibes about glitching, I can't fault what WB Montreal presented. I'm happy with Arkham Knight being the final word on the timeline's conclusion, but anything in between is fair game. And that's a wide timeline.

The Court of Owls is hands down my favorite comic arc in recent times, and that's what we'll be getting based on the suggestions. It's vitally important the brand embraces these modern concepts (provided they're good, and this one is) going forward, because that's how new legacies are built. Focusing on past glories too much makes something a one note relic. The owls put Batman, the prepared man, on the back foot mentally due to his ignorance of their existence, and pose a serious physical challenge. What's not to love?

I'm hoping for Robin to be included in some way, vehicle use without it being a chore, a playable Bruce Wayne for extended missions, a more populated environment and a story occurring over a longer time period. I'm not expecting all of these things, but let's see what happens. If they follow the comics there's the glorious potential of the owls overrunning Wayne Manor, requiring Bruce to suit up in armor and kick them all out. And of course the labyrinths are videogame heaven – not just navigating a maze, but fighting in front of a roaring owl crowd, somehow managing to win and escape alive. That could rival or surpass the Deathstroke encounter.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 03:06
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 24 Sep  2019, 10:50
I've been wanting this for a very long time.
I'm still waiting, but hopefully Fandome puts a release date on the table.

Apparently the game will be a soft reboot, and thus putting a full stop on the Arkhamverse. If so, I could understand WBGM's point of view.

1. Arkham Knight was intended to be an ending.
2. Do we really want to play as non Batman characters post Arkham Knight to maintain that ending's purity?
3. Rocksteady have moved on and Arkham was their thing. A new timeline gives WBGM complete ownership over their own universe.
4. It would allow them more freedom to introduce new mechanics that don't clash with the established Arkham formula.
5. The Origins era had a variety of timeline possibilities but a reboot has zero restrictions in terms of pumping out regular games.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Feb  2017, 03:24
WB Montreal were in an difficult position following Arkham City.

Retain the template of the previous two games and you're accused of doing a copy and paste job. Strike out on your own and you're accusing of betraying the spirit of the franchise given they didn't establish it. They were being viewed as caretakers while everyone was waiting for Rocksteady's next instalment.

As ever, let's see what happens.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 14:04
With all the buzz surrounding Cyberpunk 2077, maybe now would be a good time to go in a more futuristic direction and make that long-rumoured Batman Beyond game.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Travesty on Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 23:15
I just don't know why this is taking so long for even some kind of official announcement. Those teases came and went, and nobody cares anymore. The last game WB Montreal mad, was Arkham Origins, and that came out 7 years ago.

I don't know why it's taking so long to just announce what it is. It's so weird.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 19 Jun 2020, 23:46
Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 19 Jun  2020, 23:15
I just don't know why this is taking so long for even some kind of official announcement. Those teases came and went, and nobody cares anymore. The last game WB Montreal mad, was Arkham Origins, and that came out 7 years ago.

I don't know why it's taking so long to just announce what it is. It's so weird.
IMO they didn't know how to push forward and scrapped various projects. The new game could be an amalgamation of previous ideas but under a banner they are now comfortable with. Once WBGM started those teases I thought an announcement was imminent. But nothing, and for so long. You're right about it being weird, eliciting frustration and apathy rather than mystery. I can only imagine they did intend to reveal it, but scheduling changed for whatever reason. Who knows. Just announce the damn thing in August.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 7 Aug 2020, 14:19
Forget about Batman, Rocksteady is teasing a Suicide Squad game - featuring Superman.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ee0cqKBWsAEUsEy?format=jpg&name=large)

https://www.twitter.com/RocksteadyGames/status/1291720790447136768

Finally, seven years after the end of Arkham Origins had mentioned Task Force X, a game will see the light of day.

What I'd like to know is whether or not Superman will be a playable character.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Travesty on Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 16:01
So I guess they'll be battling Superman?

I imagine Superman fans will be pissed, like always. They'll see more "aggro" Superman. With this, I think it makes sense, since it'll be through the eyes of the SS, but still, it makes me laugh that Sup's fans will most likely be mad. But I guess we'll see with the full reveal.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 21:59
Quote from: Travesty on Sat,  8 Aug  2020, 16:01
So I guess they'll be battling Superman?

I imagine Superman fans will be pissed, like always. They'll see more "aggro" Superman. With this, I think it makes sense, since it'll be through the eyes of the SS, but still, it makes me laugh that Sup's fans will most likely be mad. But I guess we'll see with the full reveal.
Apparently they're battling the whole League. I'm not a die hard Superman fan, but I am championing for him to have a larger role in DC media. And I can see Superman fans' point of view, even if their viewpoints of exactly what they want is aggravating. What concerns me more with this game is the possibility it will be a GAAS game (game as a service). If that's true...my interest drops considerably. When I buy a console game I just want to buy the game. Get the funk out of here with micro transactions. If so...what a disappointment.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Travesty on Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 00:21
Looks like Superman is evil, lol.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 00:30
Quote from: Travesty on Sun, 23 Aug  2020, 00:21
Looks like Superman is evil, lol.
Yep. Superman's suit resembles a photo leak from ages ago that people said was fake. Metropolis is going to be a big open map, which is a good idea as a contrast to their Gotham maps. And it's a continuation of the Arkham series. The details sound promising, but it's hard to judge anything when all we've seen is a CGI trailer and no gameplay. And a 2022 release date. Really? I'll be focusing my gaming time on Ghost of Tsushima and Cyberpunk 2077.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 11 Dec 2022, 00:46
Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League has now become a posthumous release for Kevin Conroy - Batman is back for the last time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9We6tZ6bgcw

I'm not really sold on this game, but it's nice seeing Conroy has reprised his role before his death. With that said, Arkham Knight should've been the final entry in the Arkhamverse.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 21 Dec 2022, 11:29
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 23 Aug  2020, 00:30
The details sound promising, but it's hard to judge anything when all we've seen is a CGI trailer and no gameplay.
The League members have been mind controlled by Brainiac, thus the Squad have been called in to deal with the situation. I'm thinking a good way to resolve this from Batman's point of view is via fighting the hypnosis through sheer will. He fought fear toxin numerous times in the other Arkham universe games. That way we get to experience a more brutal version of Batman and he's not defeated by the villains. He simply comes to his senses, and perhaps via plot convenience some of the Squad characters we're following manage to escape.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 7 May 2023, 04:12
This game has been delayed for another year, it seems it's undergoing significant changes. I don't see how they can improve it, it appears to be the same online generic shooter game. The biggest problem this game has is it runs on the Games-As-a-Service (Gaas) model, which was blamed as the main reason why Square Enix's Avengers game flopped, and will soon be taken offline. Unless a miracle happens, this game is DOA.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 9 Nov 2023, 10:55
David Zaslav has shown once again he is utterly clueless. He wants every huge WB Game title to adopt the Game-As-A-Service model, even though more companies have begun to abandon it, and games like Avengers were taken offline due to failure.

https://press-start.com.au/news/2023/11/09/warner-bros-plans-on-turning-all-of-its-biggest-franchises-into-live-service-games/

Just like the film and TV content, WBD has NO idea or doesn't care what people want. This means the Suicide Squad game is likely doomed to fail, and projects like the Wonder Woman game are now in doubt. This means we'll never see anything as good as the Arkham or Injustice games ever again.

Absolute deadbeat company. They certainly don't deserve the rights to DC.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 21 Dec 2023, 11:24
Leaks of this game have been making noise all over the internet, and it's for all the wrong reasons. Rocksteady came out on social media and confirmed they're "disappointed", meaning most of - if not all - the leaks are real.

You can find the list of leaks somewhere online, but this one particular leak may annoy you:

https://insider-gaming.com/suicide-squad-leak-reveals-major-character-death/

To tell you the truth, I'm not even too bothered by this, because the more I learned about this game, the more I suspected it was a cynical cash grab made for shock value. In hindsight, "Kill the Justice League" as a sub-title gave the idea away. The more I think about this, the more the games department is becoming as horribly mismanaged after the movies, if you take the Injustice and the Lego games out of the equation.

Arkham Knight is the true ending of the Arkhamverse, as far as I'm concerned. Even if you ignore the leaks, this Suicide Squad game already has too many continuity issues that make it very hard to work as a follow-up.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 22 Dec 2023, 07:09
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 21 Dec  2022, 11:29
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 23 Aug  2020, 00:30The details sound promising, but it's hard to judge anything when all we've seen is a CGI trailer and no gameplay.
The League members have been mind controlled by Brainiac, thus the Squad have been called in to deal with the situation. I'm thinking a good way to resolve this from Batman's point of view is via fighting the hypnosis through sheer will. He fought fear toxin numerous times in the other Arkham universe games. That way we get to experience a more brutal version of Batman and he's not defeated by the villains. He simply comes to his senses, and perhaps via plot convenience some of the Squad characters we're following manage to escape.
Well, that's how I would have handled things. That would have been tasteful and in line with the Arkham Batman we've come to expect. If the leak I read is actually true it's hard to believe this project was greenlit and the creators thought the fanbase would respond positively. It's a game that would piss everyone off in the most extreme way possible by absolutely desecrating the heroes we all love. If that's the case I really do hope people commit to a hard boycott. I'm sick and tired of our 'entertainment' being 'edgy' like this now. I'm not exaggerating when I say this alleged game outline reads like a suicide note.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 29 Dec 2023, 23:14
A cutscene of the Suicide Squad meeting a child clone of Poison Ivy leaked online.

https://youtu.be/sv5thEFtHw4?si=4IX9bYXDN-7AbKQX

Knowing Harley Quinn and Ivy are a lesbian couple in a lot of DC media nowadays makes Harley's "fun size" comment extremely inappropriate and disturbing. Did James Gunn have a hand in writing this?

How the hell did this get approved?!
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 09:41
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 22 Dec  2023, 07:09
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 21 Dec  2022, 11:29
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 23 Aug  2020, 00:30The details sound promising, but it's hard to judge anything when all we've seen is a CGI trailer and no gameplay.
The League members have been mind controlled by Brainiac, thus the Squad have been called in to deal with the situation. I'm thinking a good way to resolve this from Batman's point of view is via fighting the hypnosis through sheer will. He fought fear toxin numerous times in the other Arkham universe games. That way we get to experience a more brutal version of Batman and he's not defeated by the villains. He simply comes to his senses, and perhaps via plot convenience some of the Squad characters we're following manage to escape.
Well, that's how I would have handled things. That would have been tasteful and in line with the Arkham Batman we've come to expect. If the leak I read is actually true it's hard to believe this project was greenlit and the creators thought the fanbase would respond positively. It's a game that would piss everyone off in the most extreme way possible by absolutely desecrating the heroes we all love. If that's the case I really do hope people commit to a hard boycott. I'm sick and tired of our 'entertainment' being 'edgy' like this now. I'm not exaggerating when I say this alleged game outline reads like a suicide note.
If you can stomach it, play the video below. After four games this is how the Arkham Batman ends. All those games lead to this.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8k_OOOfSlBQ

And all the other heroes in the game get the same treatment.

This is a dumpster fire story that literally pisses on our heroes. What a shocking fall from grace from Rocksteady who can now hang their heads in eternal shame. This isn't canon. It cannot be. Just WHO thought this was a good idea? It's one of the must straight up offensive DC products ever made. I'm also sick and tired of evil Superman and our heroes being taken out on a regular basis. Needless to say I won't be playing this.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Travesty on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 15:03
Yeah, I saw all the uproar on social media. I won't be playing or supporting this game.

This won't be in my head canon for the Arkham series. What a bummer.  >:(
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 15:50
Apparently Captain Boomerang literally urinates on the Flash's corpse. ::) The game must've been written by a 13-year-old edgelord who hates the Justice League.

I hope it bombs. I don't accept it as a canonical continuation of the Arkham Batman's adventures, and I can't imagine many fans will. The entire concept is horribly ill judged. Despite its early release, there's presently no Metascore: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/01/30/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-leagues-no-reviews-no-metascore-launch-is-a-choice-to-be-sure/ It does however have a 26% Google rating. I expect that'll go down in time once the innevitable review bombing starts.

Many outlets are doing damage control by pointing out that Conroy has more posthumous performances as Batman yet to come. Imagine if this was his final performance in the role. It's bad enough that in his previous performance – which was his only live action appearance as Batman – they made him evil and showed him getting killed by Batwoman.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JV-VNeLb-b4

This is worse, since it's meant to be the Arkhamverse Batman that fans love. What a way to celebrate the Arkhamverse's 15th anniversary.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: DocLathropBrown on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 18:58
Apparently, the game story isn't complete--"chapter" expansions later this year continue it, and data miners have noted that the JL are still in the portions yet to come, including Bruce.

It's apparently a fakeout death. A hallucination, clones or whatever. Everybody getting worked up based on hearsay.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 21:29
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 31 Jan  2024, 15:03Yeah, I saw all the uproar on social media. I won't be playing or supporting this game.

This won't be in my head canon for the Arkham series. What a bummer.  >:(
Of all the stories to choose, and the way it could be told, they go with this? There's a good chance they won't have an audience base to begin with to see the story develop over the course of a year if these humiliating degradations are indeed reversed. First impressions are lasting impressions and people have seen what they've seen.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Travesty on Wed, 31 Jan 2024, 21:53
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Wed, 31 Jan  2024, 18:58Apparently, the game story isn't complete--"chapter" expansions later this year continue it, and data miners have noted that the JL are still in the portions yet to come, including Bruce.

It's apparently a fakeout death. A hallucination, clones or whatever. Everybody getting worked up based on hearsay.
I mean, I wouldn't claim "hearsay". You can see the video above of the cinematic clip from the game. I get that the story isn't completely told, as things could reverse in future chapters, but still, people are commenting on what we have now.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 1 Feb 2024, 10:11
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 31 Jan  2024, 15:03Yeah, I saw all the uproar on social media. I won't be playing or supporting this game.

All the cut scenes from this stupid game are already released online.

https://youtu.be/aYp3cXwFr14

Aside from the idiotic dialogue, the way the heroes are given undignified deaths except for Wonder Woman, lame gags like Deadshot stopping Captain Boomerang from pissing on Flash's dead body just compliment him on his penis size, the biggest sin of this game is simple - it looks boring. All the gameplay I've seen so far is nothing but shoot 'em up and flying around in jet packs, ad nauseam. There's none of the creativity such as stealth, multiple combo attacks or creative riddle problem solving like any of the Batman Arkham games. It's just shooting. Yes, characters who are described as the Fastest Man Alive and Faster Than a Speeding Bullet, get killed by being gunned down to death. It doesn't even matter that Kryptonite weakened Superman, there's absolutely nothing imaginative going on with that boss battle.

This cynical game was made to appeal to the Fortnite crowd. The end of this game reveals Task Force X may need to travel the multiverse, which might explain the agenda to keep the crowd playing online every year. But who really wants to, knowing this game is bland and generic as they come from a gaming point of view, and mean-spirited and moronic from a storytelling point of view?

The original founder of Rocksteady, Sefton Hill, left the company to start a new one. Maybe he saw the writing on the wall and wanted no part of the backlash. I highly doubt he would've chose to make this game after the terrific work he directed on the three Batman games. This must be WB's mandate at work here.

Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 31 Jan  2024, 15:03This won't be in my head canon for the Arkham series. What a bummer.  >:(

Agreed, but if the multiverse is anything to go, the events of this game can be dismissed by setting it in another universe anyway. That would make sense because it's utterly stupid that Arkham Knight - the game that was always intended as the finale, "the day that Batman died" and the whole Protocol 10 storyline - gets retconned so Batman could die for real. And under such ignominious circumstances too.

This blatant cash grab will get the Avengers game treatment. It's not even worth getting upset about.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 2 Feb 2024, 16:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKZ8mExl1hU
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 18 Feb 2024, 00:28
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  1 Feb  2024, 10:11Agreed, but if the multiverse is anything to go, the events of this game can be dismissed by setting it in another universe anyway. That would make sense because it's utterly stupid that Arkham Knight - the game that was always intended as the finale, "the day that Batman died" and the whole Protocol 10 storyline - gets retconned so Batman could die for real. And under such ignominious circumstances too.

I got my Arkham games mixed up. I meant to say Knightfall Protocol - Protocol 10 was in Arkham City. You get the point anyway.

I read that Kill The Justice League currently has only under a thousand people playing this game on Steam at the moment, and its debut player count was around 13,000. That's much less than what Avengers debuted with only 28,000.

The game deserves all the backlash it's getting. However, the only complaint I don't agree with is how it disrespects Kevin Conroy's legacy. Listen, Conroy knew what he was signing up for. There's no way he read these lines without understanding the scope of the story. I'm disappointed he went along with it because this game didn't deserve his talent. I understand it's a job at the end of the day, but I wish he was protective about his video game portrayal of the character, especially how this game tried to undermine everything established at the end of Arkham Knight.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 18 Feb 2024, 17:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHi5qtM19Dw
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 29 Feb 2024, 12:09
Accurate, except he wouldn't have even let Harley get a shot off. I'm envisioning a dodge before the gun was fired with it quickly stripped apart and thrown to the ground.

As expected, via this article: https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/warner-says-suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-has-fallen-short-of-expectations/

QuoteChief financial officer Gunnar Wiedenfels provided a brief update on the game's early performance during Warner Bros. Discovery's fourth quarter earnings call on Friday.

"We are lapping the release of Hogwarts Legacy in February last year, which saw the largest portion of its very positive financial impact in the first quarter," he said.

"This year, Suicide Squad, one of our key video game releases in 2024, has fallen short of our expectations since its release earlier in the quarter, setting our games business up for a tough year-over-year comp in Q1."

What a surprise. Between this and Gotham Knights we're experiencing an unnecessary lull. Even if the Arkham Batman is brought back to life as the story develops they've already lost their audience. How about giving Batman fans what they want and that's another solo game where we actually play as the hero and defeat the villains? It might not be an Arkham game, but word is Lego Batman 4 is currently in development. I hope that's true, because all the others have been worthwhile. It would likely be a return to form after what we've recently received.
Title: Re: New Batman: Arkham Game Coming This Year
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Thu, 29 Feb 2024, 23:02
I enjoyed all three of the previous Lego Batman games. I can't believe it's been almost a decade since Beyond Gotham came out. It feels more recent than that. It's about time we had a new entry in the series, and with the Arkhamverse circling the drain Lego Batman 4 might be our best hope for a good new Batman game.