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#1
Another Wizard Magazine X-Men fan casting that goes back to 1995 (probably 1994 given it was a Jan 1995 issue)!





Not going to lie, Wizard really makes me wish that Bryan Singer would have included Tia Carrere as Psylocke in either X1, or X2. Though, a mid-90's X-Men movie where Tia appears as Psylocke is just about as perfect casting as Patrick Stewart was with Professor X quite frankly.

The one casting that sticks out, is Clint Eastwood as Cable. Not bad, BTW. As I could envision Clint during the mid 1990's, being a great Cable, but I don't think he would have ever agreed to playing 2nd, or 3rd fiddle as a supporting player. Definitely not in that stage of his career. Unless the film would have been Cable-centric, and that would have felt very off for X-Men's first ever cinematic movie.

Admittedly, I like the idea of Rutger Hauer as Magneto. At the same time, given the restraints of a movie running time and having to introduce so many characters, in addition to plot, within a film that would have introduced the X-Men concept to the general audiences, Rutger as Magneto comes across as cinematic depiction that's going for something decidedly more in line with the Stan Lee/Jack Kirby original representation, than the Holocaust survivor Chris Claremont incorporated in the character's background/origin. 

If you read those 1960s/1970s X-Men comics prior to Chris Claremont, Magneto was basically a cipher. As nothing about his background, or ethnic heritage was ever revealed. Nor was there anything about his family. And absolutely no question of him being "noble" in any sort of way. Magneto, as originally depicted, was the complete opposite of Xavier. He was, in a nutshell, a complete and unabashed son of a b*tch that wanted to enslave humans (and probably mutants as well given his excessive fanatical personality). I've seen videos and such of people comparing Magneto to Malcolm X, and I just see that as being pure and simple revisionist history. Pick up a Marvel X-Men Essential/Epic/Masterworks trade of the Lee/Kirby era, or even the material following both their departures from the book prior to Claremont's X-Men era, and tell me with a straight face that's a apt comparison. Something tells me Malcolm X would have found that comparison unflattering to say the very least, and for good reason!

In short, concerning the Silver Age Magneto, and with both Stan Lee and Jack Kirby being Jewish, I believe both purposely infused their version of Magneto with the mental state and imagery that was clearly more aligned with nazi idealogy, and ultimately unmistakable shorthand for "This guy is the worst kind of bad."

I still remember when Grant Morrison was wrapping up his "New X-Men" run back in 2003 with "Planet X", Morrison had Magneto absolutely wrecking New York, effectively making him a mass-murderer (only a few years after 9/11, BTW), and the online reaction was something to the effect of, "Morrison is bringing back Magneto to his Silver Age roots!!!".

Admittedly, I didn't completely understand this at the time, given that I had only read very few Pre-Chris Claremont X-Men issues, but now having the Epic Collections of all that Silver/Bronze age material, I know exactly what they meant.

So yeah, Rutger Hauer playing the Lee/Kirby Magneto in the mid-90's?

I'm sure Rutger would have made that work.

#2

Epic post/thread, Silver.

Makes me want to get acquainted with the show, quite frankly. Especially since, as you state, nothing happens that is egregiously opposed to the '66 Batman show's continuity, and this could be considered something of a 'lost 4th season' of the Adam West show, depending on how you want to view it.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Yesterday at 19:59But at the same time, depending on how you want to define "dark", this show is noticeably darker than the show. I watched the entire series start to finish years ago. And off-hand, I can't recall a single sequence ever taking place during the daytime. From memory, literally everything takes place at night. Which the Sixties show obviously differed with as many sequences took place in broad daylight.

This leads one to believe that there might have been some influence from DC Comics with what Batman comics were then-currently depicting at the time. Considering "New Adventures" aired post-Schwartz/O'Neil/Adams collaboration, the night setting could have been a tip of the hat of some form of synergy between the two.
#3


Interesting time capsule brief write-up announcing that there was going to be a dramatic creator writer/artist shift on the horizon in 1999 with the Superman books at DC Comics.

#4
Other comics / Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Sat, 4 May 2024, 23:49

Adam Hughes' cover artwork on Wonder Woman was really caught my eyes back in the day, but I do remember first seeing his art on the covers for Vampirella and Tomb Raider as well.

I do vividly recall reading from Wizard Magazine that Adam Hughes was set to do a "All-Star Wonder Woman" book which would follow both the All-Star Superman and Batman books, and was to feature Adam Hughes art on both the covers and interiors, but unfortunately nothing came of it.

Adam Hughes sold Wondy very well, and DC Comics at the time were well aware of this. As Hughes' art was featured on the covers of both the "Official Character Guide" book from the early 2000's, and also the "Essential Encyclopedia" from around 2009/2010.


#5



I can't imagine Channing Tatum trying to pull off a cajun accent, being anything but comedy gold, but a Gambit film was actually in the cards, so to speak, once upon a time.
#6
The Batman (2022) / Re: The Penguin (2024)
Fri, 3 May 2024, 23:44

Yeah .... hope he's alright. Hadn't noticed it's been awhile since SN has posted, but I sent a PM to him Sunday night. Still no response.
#7
Other comics / Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 01:39
Wonder Woman #600 variant cover by Adam Hughes from back in 2010. Featuring Hughes' rendition of Sensation Comics #1.





Back when I was still buying comics, pre-ordering was very untypical of me. However, WW #600 was a special case. I picked up the main George Perez cover, along with the Don Kramer 2nd printing cover (featuring the short lived black leather jacket/black pants look), but the Hughes cover was the one I really wanted. I can't remember what I paid for it, but my OCD for particular variant covers was probably at a all time high back then. Now, it's pretty much non existent.
#9
Joker (2019) / Re: Joker (2019)
Sun, 28 Apr 2024, 00:10

More than happy with Phoenix, but given the recent news about Leo as Lex Luthor, I felt like this was worth posting.

#10
Other DC Films & TV / Re: Wonder Woman (2017)
Sat, 27 Apr 2024, 06:48

Interesting to read more about Zack's proposed WW1854.

Honestly, as intriguing as the concept reads, i don't think I would have traded it for what we ended up with with WW2017. As WW2017 was more or less true to what William Moulton Marston depicted with her origin, ect only trading the WW2 setting for WW1.

Having her in Crimea, globetrotting across the globe in search of Ares, taking on multiple lovers, eventually leading to Steve Trevor, ect could be a interesting story. Personally, I would eliminate the subplots of Diana having multiple lovers, with them ageing later having insecurities, ect. I think Zack would be getting dangerously close to "Pearl Harbor" love triangle territory with that stuff in a Wonder Woman movie.