http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/first-justice-league-film-plot-details-logo-revealed
Kitty like
Batsy's new, wonderful toys
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/first-look-at-justice-leagues-upgraded-batmobile-more-new-bat-tech-revealed/pageno=?utm_campaign=first-look-at-justice-leagues-upgraded-batmobile-more-new-bat-te&utm_medium=internal_links&utm_source=breaking_banner
Willem Dafoe's character confirmed (so much for me wanting Dan Turpin)
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/willem-dafoes-justice-league-character-revealed
The baddy isn't Darkseid, but he's from that vein...
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/justice-league-movies-main-villain-confirmed
Really interesting stuff
http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/justice-league-aims-to-be-more-inclusive-less-dark-than-batman-v-superman
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Blind sheep: "OMG, the Batmobile STILL has guns, Snyder's a hack, LOLOLOL!!!"
Me: "So I gather you complained when Burton and Nolan showed Batman driving vehicles armed with guns too, then?"
Blind sheep: "Um....":(
Me: "Oh you didn't, eh? Then you can shut right up." >:(
I do like the sound of the synopsis:
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Fueled by his restored faith in humanity and inspired by Superman's selfless act, Bruce Wayne enlists the help of his newfound ally, Diana Prince, to face an even greater enemy. Together, Batman and Wonder Woman work quickly to find and recruit a team of metahumans to stand against this newly awakened threat. But despite the formation of this unprecedented league of heroes—Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg and The Flash—it may already be too late to save the planet from an assault of catastrophic proportions.
New info:
- The movie is no longer a two-parter - it's combined as a standalone.
- It's described lighter in tone - compared to the "Jack Kirby age of Justice League comics". Maybe this will capture with the JL cartoon too (speculation on my part, by the way)?
- Tons of mild spoilers in the video below.
https://youtu.be/7XtOCPJCX74
If Superman is going to return here, I hope it comes in a sudden epic "Guess who, bitches?" moment. Maybe a Parademon is about to slaughter a JLer with its lance and suddenly it melts in its hands and melds them together and the JLer looks up in the sky and there, eyes glowing as his heat vision fades, is Superman. I don't want it to be built up or anything, just BOOM there he is and the crowd goes wild. Sort of like when Han and Chewie appear on the Millennium Falcon in TFA, my theater exploded in cheers, that should be Supes' comeback too.
I totally need to do a watch through of the JL cartoon. It just never appealed to me for some reason, I was all Batsy all the time but maybe I will like it. The JL clips of Batman I've seen on YouTube look really badass.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 21 Jun 2016, 14:18
New info:
- The movie is no longer a two-parter - it's combined as a standalone.
- It's described lighter in tone - compared to the "Jack Kirby age of Justice League comics". Maybe this will capture with the JL cartoon too (speculation on my part, by the way)?
- Tons of mild spoilers in the video below.
https://youtu.be/7XtOCPJCX74
Usually I don't watch these videos because I'm ADD and they bore me but wow this one has me really excited. I like the sound of a Bruce who's maybe for the first time since his parents' murder had his faith and hope in humanity renewed. The other bits all sound really nice too. Can't wait!
Quote from: Catwoman on Tue, 21 Jun 2016, 14:37
I totally need to do a watch through of the JL cartoon. It just never appealed to me for some reason, I was all Batsy all the time but maybe I will like it. The JL clips of Batman I've seen on YouTube look really badass.
You need to get on watching more JL. Batman himself comes across more of a smartass and doesn't take crap from anyone, more so than on BTAS sometimes.
My favourite moment he shares with Superman is when he's told to stay put while injured. Batman has this irritated Batglare going on thinking "You f***ing boy scout!" and Superman walks away possibly thinking "heh, I showed him". It's actually quite mundane, but Superman's "You're staying here!" line and the glare makes me laugh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EENaoUiLfV0
As pointed out, it doesn't look like the Suicide Squad Batmobile had guns at all. The gun on the JL Batmobile look less severe than the BvS one. They also look closer to grenade launchers to me. I have a feeling that these will be used against the Parademons or for non-lethal purposes.
Affleck's comments give me hope:
QuoteYeah, in the last movie, Batman definitely went to a very dark place that was rooted in trauma that occurred to people that he loved and worked with and what he saw. This movie is not about that issue for him so much anymore, he's no longer sort of extreme in that way. From the experiences of the last movie, he's sort of learned and now he's sort of – I'm trying to say it without giving away any spoilers – but he's wanting to redeem himself and wanting mankind to be redeemed and he's wanting to make the world better. Having learned lessons that were important in the last movie.
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/ben-affleck-interviewed-on-the-set-of-justice-league
Other quotes I enjoyed:
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Q: If each film is a learning experience, what do you think is the main thing you learned from BvS you used here?
A: I think the main thing we learned is that people don't like to see their heroes deconstructed. I think that's hard because it's people we've grown up with and that we care about. They like seeing them in all their glory."
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/a-hater-tours-the-justice-league-set
Quote"When Batman v Superman came out, I was like, 'Wow, okay, oof,'" admitted Snyder. At Comic-Con to promote the film last summer, he wore a tight black T-shirt pulled over his muscular frame, but on Justice League's Leavesden, England, set, the now-slighter Snyder was dressed in a tweedy vest and tie, his reading glasses dangling from a lanyard. Since coming onboard to direct Man of Steel in 2011, Snyder has worked virtually nonstop on these DC Comics films, and he began production on Justice League a mere two weeks after Batman v Superman debuted to scathing reviews.
"It did catch me off guard," he said of the response to BvS. "I have had to, in my mind, make an adjustment. I do think that the tone of Justice League has changed because of what the fans have said." That, ultimately, is why Warner Bros. summoned a crew of journalists and naysayers to report on a movie that has not yet released any official stills, is barely weeks into shooting, and won't be out until next November. The message was clear, and the principals stuck closely to it: The creative team behind the DC Cinematic Universe has heard your complaints, and the grim fog that suffused Snyder's last two superhero movies is about to lift.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/06/zack-snyder-set-justice-league.html
Glad to hear that Snyder and company are determined to "right the ship" and make up for MoS and BvS's mistakes. Sure, it took two movies, but better late than never, I suppose.
QuoteThen I got really interested in Batman's costume: it's the same as the last movie. He gets a second costume later in the film - a tactical costume, with more armor plating (but UNDER the carbon mesh fiber of the suit, so he doesn't look like he's a robot again) and with cool goggles and with a bunch of straps on it - but otherwise it's the same suit. That's really unusual - they tend to heavily redesign these costumes every film in order to sell more toys. Keeping the suit the same is a really interesting choice, and it speaks to how much Snyder nailed Batman on a visual level - don't mess with aesthetic perfection.
Loved the BVS suit, so I'm glad it's staying the same from there to Suicide Squad to this film. Also glad they're putting the armor plating under the suit so we don't get a mess like the TDK/TDK Rises suit.
QuoteFirst, Gordon. It was JK Simmons' first day on set, and maybe you thought he would be doing some kind of ripped grandpa version of Gordon based on that pic of him working out that was going around online last week, but he isn't. He's absolutely classic Gordon: brimmed hat, head of grey hair, big brushy mustache, trench coat. I was blown away. It's a perfect Gordon. And Simmons plays him with a kind of weariness.
Grey haired Gordon? With a hat for the first time since Hingle? Perfect!
The Parademons stuff does feel like it's taking inspiration from Justice League: Origin (or the animated movie Justice League War)
Regarding the scenes that people got to see:
QuoteThat scene couldn't have happened in Man of Steel. It couldn't have happened in BvS for sure. It was funny, and Affleck and Miller had good chemistry. But more than that it was written from a place where these characters were being treated affectionately. It wasn't a deconstruction or a teardown or a real world version of these characters. It was full of love, and it was full of humanity.
Maybe there are no other scenes like this one in Justice League, but this one scene will make the movie infinitely better and more enjoyable than BvS.
Again, awesome.
Sounds interesting. Not sure how much I am going to be on board with DC/WB lighting the mood up, but we'll see. Hopefully they don't go significantly lighter to where it's essentially a full on Marvel-like approach to the material, cause I kinda like having the distinguishable differences in tone and flavor between said universes, but if they do I can't say I blame DC/WB. It's business, that's what sells.
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Blind sheep: "OMG, the Batmobile STILL has guns, Snyder's a hack, LOLOLOL!!!"
Me: "So I gather you complained when Burton and Nolan showed Batman driving vehicles armed with guns too, then?"
Blind sheep: "Um....":(
Me: "Oh you didn't, eh? Then you can shut right up." >:(
Me: Guns that he used to brutally with malice of forethought murder people.
Illogical Fan: But they have guns too and context, meaning, intention and purpose don't matter at all!
Me: That is literally the opposite of truth.
Illogical Fan: *Silence*
Have a very great day you and everyone!
God bless you! God bless everyone!
Do you get a stiffy from antagonizing him?
Quote from: The Joker on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 00:48
Sounds interesting. Not sure how much I am going to be on board with DC/WB lighting the mood up, but we'll see. Hopefully they don't go significantly lighter to where it's essentially a full on Marvel-like approach to the material, cause I kinda like having the distinguishable differences in tone and flavor between said universes, but if they do I can't say I blame DC/WB. It's business, that's what sells.
I'm happy about the direction for several reasons. One - the antisocial man *has* to socialise with people in order to assemble a team, given he's afraid of the oncoming storm. He also has to deal with some hyperactive personalities. That will be both interesting and fun to see. Two - It seems like a logical progression following BvS, where Bruce is more optimistic about the future, and states metahumans will have to come together. And three - it was the original intent for Justice League to be lighter in tone in comparison to BvS. But they've obviously embraced that vibe. Which is okay with me. The scene description involving Bruce Wayne and The Flash was *exactly* the sort of fun I expected.
Lots of interesting details to chew on
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 04:12Do you get a stiffy from antagonizing him?
I just don't like someone commenting against people like he does and making statements not based in facts and rejecting context and intention. Have a very great day you and everyone!
God bless you! God bless everyone!
Facts are, Batman was trying to reclaim a sense of control in BvS. Once Bruce saved the orphan and saw Zod and Superman flying overhead, he changed. He lashed out at the world. Facts are, he's not in that mindset any more. He realises metahumans like Superman need to be recruited, not fought. The synopsis for Justice League says so, too. I find it bizarre people are saying they're finally 'righting the ship' when it's just the logical progression of a character arc. People grow with time, and that's the case for Bruce here.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 08:16
Facts are, Batman was trying to reclaim a sense of control in BvS. Once Bruce saved the orphan and saw Zod and Superman flying overhead, he changed. He lashed out at the world. Facts are, he's not in that mindset any more. He realises metahumans like Superman need to be recruited, not fought. The synopsis for Justice League says so, too. I find it bizarre people are saying they're finally 'righting the ship' when it's just the logical progression of a character arc. People grow with time, and that's the case for Bruce here.
I'm afraid the type of people who refuse to acknowledge Batman's redemption as part of his character arc in BvS are simply too narrow-minded, and never wanted to give the film a chance to begin with. If Batman doesn't ever kill again for the remainder of the DCEU, they'd credit themselves "for making their voices heard"...without realising that was implied when Batman decided not to brand Led in the end.
People can criticise the film all they want, but I can't understand how anyone could complain about the idea behind Batman's progression into this series so far.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 08:16Facts are, Batman was trying to reclaim a sense of control in BvS. Once Bruce saved the orphan and saw Zod and Superman flying overhead, he changed. He lashed out at the world. Facts are, he's not in that mindset any more. He realises metahumans like Superman need to be recruited, not fought. The synopsis for Justice League says so, too. I find it bizarre people are saying they're finally 'righting the ship' when it's just the logical progression of a character arc. People grow with time, and that's the case for Bruce here.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 11:53I'm afraid the type of people who refuse to acknowledge Batman's redemption as part of his character arc in BvS are simply too narrow-minded, and never wanted to give the film a chance to begin with. If Batman doesn't ever kill again for the remainder of the DCEU, they'd credit themselves "for making their voices heard"...without realising that was implied when Batman decided not to brand Led in the end.
People can criticise the film all they want, but I can't understand how anyone could complain about the idea behind Batman's progression into this series so far.
I'm sure others know that. That doesn't change any of the issues people have with it or the lack of validity people see in the change from both ends. People know what the arc is. They just don't think it fits the character or is well done. But TLF is making more statements while ignoring context and intention. Have a very great day both of you and everyone!
God bless you both! God bless everyone!
There's talk that Batman's suit in this one will actually be slightly different from BvS/Suicide Squad in that it'll have more of a "blue hue."
QuoteThe first suit's major changes come from the color and armoring. The suit sports the same logo across the chest but sees a change from the completely gray tone seen in Batman v Superman. The suit actually has a significant blue tone to it. It's not overwhelming and still has a darker, gray look to it, but the suit seen in some of Batman's older comics is definitely starting to shine through with the color scheme.
http://comicbook.com/2016/06/19/justice-league-costume-descriptions-2/2
BvS already gave us the most comic accurate Batsuit, but could they actually be tackling the blue and gray look?
And could it be that the explanation behind this injection of blue...is that it's Bruce's way to pay tribute to the colors of the fallen Superman?
I've gotta say, if I'm right, this may be the best explanation for the "blue" Batman I've heard yet as it's now representative of Bruce's guilt and respect for Clark, as well as his own desire to become more of a hero...
I thought his suit in BvS was perfect (except the logo) but if they break out the blue, might be even better
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 22 Jun 2016, 22:59
And could it be that the explanation behind this injection of blue...is that it's Bruce's way to pay tribute to the colors of the fallen Superman?
I've gotta say, if I'm right, this may be the best explanation for the "blue" Batman I've heard yet as it's now representative of Bruce's guilt and respect for Clark, as well as his own desire to become more of a hero...
Good thinking.
I like everything I'm hearing, except for how it's a single movie now. Before BvS, it was supposed to be a two-parter, and in just a few months, they made it into one script?
I feel like that's way too fast to make such a drastic change like that, but who knows?
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Tue, 21 Jun 2016, 17:45
Q: If each film is a learning experience, what do you think is the main thing you learned from BvS you used here?
A: I think the main thing we learned is that people don't like to see their heroes deconstructed. I think that's hard because it's people we've grown up with and that we care about. They like seeing them in all their glory."
http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/21/a-hater-tours-the-justice-league-set
I can't help but look at this again. Nothing sickens me more than WB inviting these vindictive blogging parasites to a set for their main attraction. Sites like Birth.Movies.Death that led an overzealous backlash against Snyder's movies, but also supported somebody like James Gunn for his gross online behavior. But then again, what do you expect when they employed somebody like Devin Faraci - the author of that particular blog - who had a notorious reputation to use his role as a critic to bully people online and even indirectly admitted to committing sexual harassment? What's even more sickening is I've seen his blogger peers on social media defended him for his behaviour, but persist on insulting Snyder on a personal level.
These are the sort of people we listened to when discussing issues with MOS and BvS? This are the sort of people whose influence changed what JL was meant to be? It shows they lack morals and decency if they defend such despicable behaviour, but get "outraged" over a director's treatment of comic book characters. These people who write about the entertainment industry are depraved, disgusting excuses for human beings.
I'm following up my last post with this little screenshot of this Birth.Movies.Death blogger called Scott Wampler, who made a snide remark while retweeting conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro, because he said BvS is good.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxJXtMEWoAIkwmS.jpg:large)
Reading between the lines, Wampler seems to suggest if you believe BvS is good, you have to a right winger. Which is meant to carry negative connotations.
This is just an another example of despicable discourse when it comes to this film and Zack Snyder. It's just as bad as The AV Club suggesting the 300 movie adaptation paved the way for the alt-right. I've even heard these pathetic bloggers going so far to suggest Snyder is some sort of far right sympathiser, who hates women or some nonsense. Not only is it slanderous, it's lunacy.
If that were the case, Snyder wouldn't have Lois Lane as a heroine whose investigation helped expose Lex Luthor's schemes, let alone introducing Wonder Woman. He wouldn't have that African witness having a conscience and telling Senator Finch the truth about what happened in Nairomi and how Lex was pulling the strings.
Yes, I realise I might be meddling in identity politics a little bit. But the point I'm getting at is if these so-called left-leaning Snyder detractors have their eyes open, they'd realise he's more progressive than they think he is. Instead, they doubled down on their slander by claiming JL was sexist because of the Amazon costumes, despite them being no more revealing than what we were shown in the standalone WW movie. This only goes to show they were going condemn JL no matter what.
I'd like to know exactly what Snyder did to get such vitriol, because at this point, to go so far to make such slanderous descriptions only goes to show these degenerates hate him on a personal level. I'll say it before, and I'll say it one more time, these people who write about the entertainment industry are pathetic excuses for human beings.
By the way, yes, apparently Rian Johnson approved Wampler's comment, as you can see in the above screenshot. You'd think after the hostile reaction towards The Last Jedi by the general Star Wars fanbase would've prompt Johnson to be a little bit more sympathetic and respectful towards another director who came under fire too, but I guess. Luckily for me, I never liked TLJ.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 22 Jan 2019, 14:02
I'm following up my last post with this little screenshot of this Birth.Movies.Death blogger called Scott Wampler, who made a snide remark while retweeting conservative political commentator Ben Shapiro, because he said BvS is good.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxJXtMEWoAIkwmS.jpg:large)
Reading between the lines, Wampler seems to suggest if you believe BvS is good, you have to a right winger. Which is meant to carry negative connotations.
This is just an another example of despicable discourse when it comes to this film and Zack Snyder. It's just as bad as The AV Club suggesting the 300 movie adaptation paved the way for the alt-right. I've even heard these pathetic bloggers going so far to suggest Snyder is some sort of far right sympathiser, who hates women or some nonsense. Not only is it slanderous, it's lunacy.
If that were the case, Snyder wouldn't have Lois Lane as a heroine whose investigation helped expose Lex Luthor's schemes, let alone introducing Wonder Woman. He wouldn't have that African witness having a conscience and telling Senator Finch the truth about what happened in Nairomi and how Lex was pulling the strings.
Yes, I realise I might be meddling in identity politics a little bit. But the point I'm getting at is if these so-called left-leaning Snyder detractors have their eyes open, they'd realise he's more progressive than they think he is. Instead, they doubled down on their slander by claiming JL was sexist because of the Amazon costumes, despite them being no more revealing than what we were shown in the standalone WW movie. This only goes to show they were going condemn JL no matter what.
I'd like to know exactly what Snyder did to get such vitriol, because at this point, to go so far to make such slanderous descriptions only goes to show these degenerates hate him on a personal level. I'll say it before, and I'll say it one more time, these people who write about the entertainment industry are pathetic excuses for human beings.
By the way, yes, apparently Rian Johnson approved Wampler's comment, as you can see in the above screenshot. You'd think after the hostile reaction towards The Last Jedi by the general Star Wars fanbase would've prompt Johnson to be a little bit more sympathetic and respectful towards another director who came under fire too, but I guess. Luckily for me, I never liked TLJ.
Tbh, the political angle went by me, ignorant as I am of Scott Wampler (apart from the fact that I now know that he has a stupid name). I figured it was just a shot at Shapiro personally rather than a shot at Shapiro politically.
I should say here that however to-the-right some people may think I am, I have no real use for the likes of Shapiro. But that's probably enough said about that, Lord knows I wouldn't want our forum nanny to go running off in search of a mod.
Rian Johnson... oh boy. It's a pretty tacky thing to do. I want to believe he's endorsing a swipe at Shapiro more than he's endorsing a swipe at Snyder. Not sure how likely that is. But it would be nice to think that directors have enough professional courtesy to not denigrate one another's work in public.
Then again, Johnson never struck me as a class act, exactly. So take all that for whatever you think it's worth.
Wampler has a history of making derisive remarks about BvS and fans who like the movie. I have no doubt this was another way to show his contempt by connecting his dislike for Shapiro. Because apparently, if you have anything positive to say about Zack Snyder or his movies then you must be a white male American conservative. You can't possibly be anything else. What an absolute moron.
So, it appears Rian Johnson has once again made a series of tweets ridiculing BvS, and that Joaquin Phoenix movie in these series of bizarre tweets:
Quote from: Rian Johnson
My parents went to see the touring production of Cats when I was a kid. I was so excited and really jealous. When they got home I was on my mom's heels asking how it was, what it was like, tell me everything. She slumped on the sofa, eyes focused mid distance. "Well. Lotta cats."
Quote from: Matt Singer (not related to Brian Singer, I presume)
Weird way for the JOKER movie to start, but okay Rian.
Quote from: Rian Johnson
And her name was Martha
*rim shot*
https://twitter.com/rianjohnson/status/1114225735223238656
I think this fan sums up the best response perfectly:
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Zack Snyders Batman in BvS>>>>>>Luke Beta Space moose drinking hollow deck fighting, sorry ass in TLJ
Which sh*t on Lukes character so bad Mark Hamill and Star Wars defecates on you
And Cheers..Bottoms [Beta based] up
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Of course, special mentions should go to those who rightfully point out that Chris Terrio, the writer of BvS, is writing the sequel and trying to clean the mess Johnson made with TLJ.
This Rian schmuck really takes pleasure in being an unlikable asshole, doesn't he?