I've been hearing that there are different takes in the edit used in the current 35 anniversary live orchestra screenings.
One of them being Alfred telling Bruce that Viki had arrived in the Batcave.
Another is also a different take for the "We're going to be here for quite some time" scene.
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 04:58I've been hearing that there are different takes in the edit used in the current 35 anniversary live orchestra screenings.
One of them being Alfred telling Bruce that Viki had arrived in the Batcave.
Another is also a different take for the "We're going to be here for quite some time" scene.
That's exciting. I was planning on going anyway, but this is an added incentive.
I'm wondering what the filming policy is, I see people recording the elfman concerts and Id like to get quick clips of those since it might be other only time we'd see these takes
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https://youtu.be/3DqiCS3wMBw?si=0oYU9PFQZUei0fLE
There is a no filming policy
I attended, there is indeed a no filming policy, at least while things are going :P
There were additional flourishes in the score, presumably stuff Danny wrote that didn't make it to the final cut. There was a short reprise of Danny's love theme (Not "Scandalous") when Vicki said goodbye to Alfred the morning after ("Back, Miss Vale?") and another brief cue played alongside Alicia seeing Jack again ("You'll never believe what happened to me today").
There was an intermission, right after the Batmobile stops at Bruce's feet, and in that moment, the orchestra did a little wrap-up music, reprising the moment when Batman jumps off the roof at the beginning of the movie.
The orchestra performed the classical piece at the museum (which makes sense, but I hadn't thought about it), and they also performed "Theme From a Summer Place," along with the Hill Bowen version of "Beautiful Dreamer," which is the one tracked-in for the real movie (Burton didn't end up using the versions recorded for Elfman's score). Speaking of the apartment scene, they put back-in Danny's piece for the sequence (before the Joker arrives), which runs from just before the scene transition and ends when Bruce pushes Vicki to sit down.
For my performance, sadly, the orchestra got out-of-sync during "Waltz to the Death," and it totally broke my brain for a moment :D, but thankfully they righted themselves for the rest.
For the end credits, where "Scandalous" normally plays, the orchestra continued on and first played something I couldn't quite make out (I was in the second row and between the cheers and my poor acoustic position, I had trouble identifying it), but it segued into a reprise of "Decent into Mystery" to finish up. It was quite nice.
Warners obviously provided a custom sound mix, without music and with boosted dialogue, reduced (or removed) sound effects and some additional ADR added, for whatever reason. Some voices could be buried in the normal sound mixes that I'd never heard, but others I'm sure were newly dubbed in, for cops/background characters. You could hear Knox's questions to the crime lords at City Hall pretty clearly (along with too much vocal noise drowning out the orchestra, for some reason), and the black reporter who talks before Knox was a different voice!
Alfred also announced Vicki coming into the cave ("Miss Vale, sir!") in a voice that was too enthusiastic, and he also calls to her at the end when she turns around to see him and the car ("Miss Vale!") Both were clearly Michael Gough's voice, so I assume they were pulled from the archives and put back in.
I gotta say though, while I wish the dialogue was quieter or nonexistent (but I guess the movie being only visual with no sound would have bored normal folks), it was an experience unlike any other, and I was in heaven. From the Wayne flashback on, it was a damn-near spiritual experience for me. If you have a chance to go, GO!
https://www.dcfilmsinconcert.com/ (https://www.dcfilmsinconcert.com/)
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 15:28I attended, there
So, this is a showing of the complete movie then? Rather than a concert with selected scenes being live scored?
Either way, this sounds very interesting.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 19:42So, this is a showing of the complete movie then? Rather than a concert with selected scenes being live scored?
Either way, this sounds very interesting.
Yeah, the entirety of the movie, the only difference (basically) is that the score is performed live as the movie plays.
Damn, I checked out the upcoming schedule for these, and I really wish the nearest one to me wasn't a 7+ hour drive.
That's the way it goes sometimes. Either way, attending one of these sounds like it's definitely a unique and memorable experience!
Went to the Flint showing, I had never seen Batman '89 with an audience that was excited about the film as I was. The music sounded just like the movie and was right on que with the scenes.
I went with a friend who got some shots of us, Man, do I look old.
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You look good to me. A dead ringer for Eckhardt, and you can quote me on that.
Got the deleted line from Alfred. Haven't seen anyone post a clip of it https://streamable.com/80mbug
Also I noticed the one reporter who asks about Grisson before Knox asks his question was overdubbed in the final version, his real voice is in this concert mix and Alfred calls Vicki by name at the end when she looks at the Batsignal
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 04:54Got the deleted line from Alfred. Haven't seen anyone post a clip of it https://streamable.com/80mbug
Also I noticed the one reporter who asks about Grisson before Knox asks his question was overdubbed in the final version, his real voice is in this concert mix and Alfred calls Vicki by name at the end when she looks at the Batsignal
Thanks for that. I like the silence of Alfred in the Final Cut because this is not a normal meeting. Alfred has facilitated an intrusion and is risking his employment. Her arrival by his side says enough, and once he's done his deed Alfred's out of there. In general I don't have a serious problem with the Bruce/Vicki scene taking place in the cave. It's Alfred's attempt at forcing someone into Bruce's life so he may attain happiness, giving more meaning to the line "I have no wish to fill my few remaining years grieving for the loss of old friends. Or their sons."
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon, 11 Mar 2024, 09:10Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 04:54Got the deleted line from Alfred. Haven't seen anyone post a clip of it https://streamable.com/80mbug
Also I noticed the one reporter who asks about Grisson before Knox asks his question was overdubbed in the final version, his real voice is in this concert mix and Alfred calls Vicki by name at the end when she looks at the Batsignal
Thanks for that. I like the silence of Alfred in the Final Cut because this is not a normal meeting. Alfred has facilitated an intrusion and is risking his employment. Her arrival by his side says enough, and once he's done his deed Alfred's out of there. In general I don't have a serious problem with the Bruce/Vicki scene taking place in the cave. It's Alfred's attempt at forcing someone into Bruce's life so he may attain happiness, giving more meaning to the line "I have no wish to fill my few remaining years grieving for the loss of old friends. Or their sons."
I also feel like Vicki figured out Bruce Wayne was Batman, came to the manor and told Alfred and Alfred figured "now that she knows"
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Wed, 13 Mar 2024, 15:53I also feel like Vicki figured out Bruce Wayne was Batman, came to the manor and told Alfred and Alfred figured "now that she knows"
Indeed. The scene with Vicki and Knox studying the old newspapers was the moment it clicked for her. The amazing thing about B89 is how it all came together as if it was meant to be despite any issues they encountered on set or through the script. Having the final Bruce/Vicki conversation outside of the cave wouldn't have had the same gravitas. She met Batman in the cave earlier, and then Bruce in the same location. I like that contrast.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 14 Mar 2024, 10:55Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Wed, 13 Mar 2024, 15:53I also feel like Vicki figured out Bruce Wayne was Batman, came to the manor and told Alfred and Alfred figured "now that she knows"
Indeed. The scene with Vicki and Knox studying the old newspapers was the moment it clicked for her. The amazing thing about B89 is how it all came together as if it was meant to be despite any issues they encountered on set or through the script. Having the final Bruce/Vicki conversation outside of the cave wouldn't have had the same gravitas. She met Batman in the cave earlier, and then Bruce in the same location. I like that contrast.
This is what I was saying on the recent interview thread. From everything we know about the script constantly changing and shooting during a writers strike, this movie should've been a disaster.