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Title: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 15:32
Would casting Sean Young as an older Catwoman in the DCEU secure the franchise's future box office success? Young seems to think so.

QuoteYou landed the lead in Batman, only to break your arm during rehearsals. You were quickly replaced by Kim Basinger. Seems unfair from today's perspective?
If [producer] Jon Peters had wanted me I think they could have shot around it. I think he just had a hard-on for Kim Basinger. He had a good excuse to let me go and hire her. It hurt me, but that's show business.

When you dressed up as Catwoman and approached Tim Burton on the WB lot, what was his reaction?
He wasn't there. I guess he was hiding in the bathroom. Who knows? If these Warner Bros. executives now were really good businessmen, they'd let me play Catwoman today, and I'd make a smash amount of money. But they're too stupid. You can lead people to water, but you can't make them great artists. Nobody wants to take that risk, it's too scary. If they're wrong, it can cost them their job. If there were really good businessmen over there, it'd be an obvious no-brainer, but I'm not running the studio.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/sean-young-catwoman-a-role-880058

Elsewhere in the interview she claims she saw John Candy snorting coke during the making of Once Upon a Crime (1992), which I find rather difficult to believe. In fact she alleges almost everyone she ever worked with used coke, but that she herself – Sean 'Celebrity Rehab' Young – never did.

I wish this woman well, but I think it's obvious she has a few screws loose.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Furstmobile on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 15:52
It would be funny to have her be the old pimpstress Selina in a DKReturns movie.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: johnnygobbs on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 15:55
Screw her for badmouthing John Candy, someone who I've never heard any of his other co-stars say a single bad word about (on the contrary, most of the late actors' co-stars always seem to comment on what a genuinely decent and kind-hearted friend he was).

On the other hand, good luck for her if she wants to appear in the next Zack Snyder DCEU travesty.  It would surely be the finally nail in the franchise's coffin and thus allow for a swifter reboot than expected.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Catwoman on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 16:07
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat,  9 Apr  2016, 15:32

I wish this woman well, but I think it's obvious she has a few screws loose.

The screws were loose in 1991. At this point all the hardware is stripped and rusted and the wiring is shorted out too. My god.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Cobblepot4Mayor on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 16:14
Didn't she once stalk actor James Woods and he had to get a restraining order...or something? It took me a while to realize this lady plays Harold Ramis' girlfriend in the movie Stripes. Which makes me wonder what on Earth he and Bill Murray made of her...?

I certainly take issue with her Candy comments. Watching him in any of his movies is like watching my own dad. He had a LOT in common with Candy's many characters especially in the 1988 movie The Great Outdoors (believe me that story is realer in my family than you'd expect from that tiny comedy film! lol). If he did snort coke well, who cares anyway? The poor man is long since gone and much missed. What he got up to in his personal time for his own benefits is nothing that's any of my business. At least he never went off and did an OJ Simpson! lol

If he were alive and hearing her saying these baffling things he'd possibly give the response: "Take this quarter, go downtown and have a RAT gnaw that thing off yer face!" lol
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Catwoman on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 16:24
For what it's worth RE: John Candy, Maureen O'Hara loved him and she often vocally detested the men of her films lol. I think that speaks a lot about him. I loved him and miss him too. He had so many great lovable roles and seemed like a lovable person off screen too. If he had personal demons, well, so does everyone else. 23 years after his death is a hell of a time to try to paint him in a bad light. Shame on her.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 9 Apr 2016, 17:45
Candy was a good bloke. An enormously talented actor and comedian, he was famous for being one of the most genuinely kind and friendly people in Hollywood. I've heard so many stories from folks who met him – some colleagues, some just ordinary fans or crewmembers who worked with him – and they all paint a consistently positive portrait of a moral, hardworking and down-to-earth family man who never had anything bad to say about anyone.

Maureen O'Hara was retired when Chris Columbus approached her about appearing in Only the Lonely (1991). Liking the script but unsure about whether or not to come out of retirement, she tentatively agreed to meet the actor who'd be playing her son while she considered the role. After one meeting with Candy, she signed on to do it. Once production started, Candy discovered O'Hara had been given a tiny trailer to sleep in while he himself had been furnished with a much larger one. He complained on her behalf, insisting she was a more important star and deserved better treatment than himself. But the producers insisted there wasn't enough money to afford two such trailers. So Candy moved all of his own stuff out of the trailer and moved all of O'Hara's things in, allowing her to occupy it while he spent the next few nights sleeping on a small cot in a cramped room. Eventually the producers forked over the money for another trailer. Candy and O'Hara remained good friends until his death.

He was also known to turn down good roles and recommend other actors for them. The most famous example of this is probably Louis Tully in Ghostbusters, a role that was written specifically for him. Candy had worked with Rick Moranis back during their stints with Second City and knew he was going through a rough patch in his career. So when he turned down the role of Tully, he specifically recommended Moranis for the part. And that movie saved Moranis' career in Hollywood. Years later, Candy also turned down the lead in Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989) and once again recommended Moranis for the part. During his time with Second City, he was approached numerous times with offers to join Saturday Night Live, but he always stayed with SCTV out of loyalty to his friends and co-workers.

These are just a few of the stories I've heard about Candy. There are many more like them. For Sean Young to talk smack about him years after his passing shows a distinct lack of class on her part.

One last thing to say about Candy - Planes, Trains & Automobiles (1987) is a 10/10 masterpiece of American cinema.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKtFIgmoqoI

Getting back to the subject of Catwoman in the DCEU, I actually really like the idea of a middle-aged Selina Kyle; one who is an experienced veteran, like Batfleck, and who already has a long and complex history with Batman. I'm not sure who I'd cast in the role. But it wouldn't be Young, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Cobblepot4Mayor on Sun, 10 Apr 2016, 15:34
In Planes, Trains and Automobiles only John Candy can make you laugh and cry in equal measures. Desperately sad scenes at the end. Not to mention the Steve Martin hotel rant near the beginning. A scene that starts off so bloody funny ("Next time you have one of these stories here's an idea....have a point!!...") that suddenly shifts to a heart melting performance from Candy. I'm not seeing many guys in comedy these days who can do that.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 10 Apr 2016, 16:08
The twist at the end of the movie is very sad. But one of the things that makes it so poignant is it never feels forced. So many comedies try and tack on a bit of drama to lend themselves weight. But in Planes, Trains & Automobiles the drama evolves very naturally from the characters. All throughout the movie, there's a question at the back of the viewer's head about why Del is the way he is. And when you get the answer at the end, it all makes sense. Candy and Martin both play it beautifully.

It's interesting how Candy was moving into more dramatic roles towards the end of his life. He has some serious moments in Cool Runnings (1993), and he plays a completely straight role in Oliver Stone's JFK (1991). Had he lived, I think his career might've followed a similar trajectory to actors like Michael Keaton and Bill Murray, gradually moving into more serious dramatic roles while still doing the occasional comedy. I wonder if he ever would have played a villain. At 6'2 and 300+ lbs, he would've been a solid physical candidate to play Wilson Fisk.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: riddler on Thu, 28 Apr 2016, 20:16
I always thought she was a nut, I knew she stalked actors and tried to break onto the set of Batman Returns several times to win the Catwoman role and get Michelle fired (apparently she thought that lunacy would win her the role).  She's also attempting to encourage people to boycott the Blade Runner sequel if she isn't in it and continues to claim Harrison Ford hates that film despite nobody corroborating that allegation No wonder filmmakers don't want to work with her

She also badmouthed Jim Carrey on Ace Ventura, another actor whom his co stars rarely have a bad thing to say of him. Any respect I had for her was lost when I read what she wrote about Candy. I have nothing but respect for that man, while SCTV (basically the Canadian Saturday night live) didn't last for an awful long time, It is highly regarded north of the border and Candy is one of the main reasons for it. Ask any of Catherine o hara, Eugene levy, Rick Moranis, or Dave Thomas what they thought of Candy and you'll hear nothing but high regards. I remember how sad they all were at his funeral.

I don't wish her well, I hope she never lands a big role again.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: johnnygobbs on Thu, 28 Apr 2016, 20:52
Quote from: riddler on Thu, 28 Apr  2016, 20:16She also badmouthed Jim Carrey on Ace Ventura, another actor whom his co stars rarely have a bad thing to say of him. Any respect I had for her was lost when I read what she wrote about Candy. I have nothing but respect for that man, while SCTV (basically the Canadian Saturday night live) didn't last for an awful long time, It is highly regarded north of the border and Candy is one of the main reasons for it. Ask any of Catherine o hara, Eugene levy, Rick Moranis, or Dave Thomas what they thought of Candy and you'll hear nothing but high regards. I remember how sad they all were at his funeral.
I adore SCTV.  IMHO, it was far more consistently funny than SNL.  I've watched a few clips online and pretty much every sketch hit its mark.  Along with John Candy, the show made stars out of Catherine O'Hara (a regular Tim Burton collaborator), Eugene Levy, Rick Moranis (for what it's worth, arguably the funniest person in a show full of super-talented people), Dave Thomas (who should and could have been a bigger star had he got the film comedy vehicles he deserved), Joe Flaherty, Martin Short (another regular Burton collaborator), Andrea Martin and the late Harold Ramis.  Many sketches are online, and it's worth seeking out Moranis' spot-on impersonation of Woody Allen, alongside Thomas' almost equally uncanny Bob Hope, as well as well as John Candy as Orson Welles.

Bearing in mind that Canada produced Candy, Moranis, Short, Dan Aykroyd, Michael J. Fox and Jim Carrey, it's definitely fair to say that they've got funny genes north of the border.
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Thu, 28 Apr 2016, 21:47
This is just embarrassing. :-[

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGNtGke9c8Y
Title: Re: Sean Young still wants to play Catwoman...
Post by: riddler on Fri, 29 Apr 2016, 14:57
Quote from: johnnygobbs on Thu, 28 Apr  2016, 20:52
Quote from: riddler on Thu, 28 Apr  2016, 20:16She also badmouthed Jim Carrey on Ace Ventura, another actor whom his co stars rarely have a bad thing to say of him. Any respect I had for her was lost when I read what she wrote about Candy. I have nothing but respect for that man, while SCTV (basically the Canadian Saturday night live) didn't last for an awful long time, It is highly regarded north of the border and Candy is one of the main reasons for it. Ask any of Catherine o hara, Eugene levy, Rick Moranis, or Dave Thomas what they thought of Candy and you'll hear nothing but high regards. I remember how sad they all were at his funeral.
I adore SCTV.  IMHO, it was far more consistently funny than SNL.  I've watched a few clips online and pretty much every sketch hit its mark.  Along with John Candy, the show made stars out of Catherine O'Hara (a regular Tim Burton collaborator), Eugene Levy, Rick Moranis (for what it's worth, arguably the funniest person in a show full of super-talented people), Dave Thomas (who should and could have been a bigger star had he got the film comedy vehicles he deserved), Joe Flaherty, Martin Short (another regular Burton collaborator), Andrea Martin and the late Harold Ramis.  Many sketches are online, and it's worth seeking out Moranis' spot-on impersonation of Woody Allen, alongside Thomas' almost equally uncanny Bob Hope, as well as well as John Candy as Orson Welles.

Bearing in mind that Canada produced Candy, Moranis, Short, Dan Aykroyd, Michael J. Fox and Jim Carrey, it's definitely fair to say that they've got funny genes north of the border.

Sadly the media market in Canada outside of Toronto just isn't that big hence why Canadian movies and shows rarely become overly popular. A lot of the jokers were  Canadian jokes that non-canadians may not understand. Though the Bob and Doug McKenzie skits are fairly famous. I was in Mississippi for a wedding in 2008 and was talking like that "Howz it goin EH? How aboot a brewski?" and I think I convinced them Canadians talk like that.