Hi fellow Batman fans :) - I'm new around here. To be precise, I used to be a member a few years ago but then lost username and password and had to create a new account ;D
Anyway - the first Batman movie I have any memory of being excited about is Batman Forever - I was crazy about that movie and when it came out it was all we kids talked about. It was released late 1995 here in Italy.
I loved that movie and, to be honest, didn't particularly care for Burton's Batman films growing up. I still hold a soft spot for the Sonar suit :D
As I've grown older Tim's Batmans have definitely become my favorites and, lately, I've come to realize that Batman Returns is a masterpiece and the best Batman film ever.
I've been looking for a Batman Returns style guide for a long time and just lost a bid on ebay for one yesterday. It's very very rare and I was wondering if please anybody could help me out. I'd be willing to pay good money to get it.
what does it look like?
It's like a press kit containing the deisgns/drawings that were done by Jose Luis Garcia Lopez as reference for merchandising and licensing.
There are some pics from it in the gallery here
(https://www.batman-online.com/images/12360417055769.jpg)
(https://www.batman-online.com/images/12360417344849.jpg)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyYiBELx.jpg&hash=420882f3442c6652a05ec9f29f3de9872b98721b)
You would think that in 2015 we would have this stuff available to us online as PDFs unless they're just afraid of bootleggers. I know a lot of the sports leagues keep theirs under serious wraps for that reason, but come on, it came out in 1992.
I'd love to see the Catwoman guides. Actually I'd like to see all of it cause based off that Batman page it would have a lot of interesting stuff with different color styles and what not and y'all know Kitty loves the eye candy.
That Bob Ringwood comment about Schumacher is hilarious.
I think Schumacher gets way too much hate. I didn't think there was anything wrong with his Batsuits and I never even noticed the infamous "Bat-nipples" until the internet.
Funny thing is, one of main reasons Ringwood resents him is that he took all the credit for the Bat-nipples. I was never sure wether Ringwood was homosexual or not until I saw his Facebook page, but his overuse of the word "sexy" in old interviews always made me wonder. Those are the only two people I can think of that were militantly pro-nipple. Other than that the best you can hope for are people that were indifferent or didn't really notice. Of course the two guys who actually had to sculpt the costumes, Jose & Miles, were strongly opposed to the idea. Say what you will about Schumacher's stylistic choices, now we have a peer of his that worked on the whole series attacking his character.
Here's a Catwoman pic
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPouBLbt.jpg&hash=af0d1eb790fba11c54f6abf9e98587139c58e6ee)
Quote from: Furstmobile on Wed, 25 Nov 2015, 14:53Funny thing is, one of main reasons Ringwood resents him is that he took all the credit for the Bat-nipples.
;D
Why would you fight over credit for the Bat-nipples?
Quote from: Furstmobile on Wed, 25 Nov 2015, 14:53
Here's a Catwoman pic
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPouBLbt.jpg&hash=af0d1eb790fba11c54f6abf9e98587139c58e6ee)
Thanks doll
So apparently there's also a Batman Returns Style Guide II in a white folder. One just sold on ebay for 300 bucks, it'll probably end up waterlogged in somebody's basement in ten years. Oh well. It's got some photos of the Penguin that WB really really doesn't want you to see.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-Returns-Style-Guide-1992-Michael-Keaton-Tim-Burton-/252171667188?nma=true&si=LcJjElmL%252FG3CxuxnpHAb9c7CSUc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiLCtJr0.jpg&hash=86b1b7492b0b098cecddf6a0d9a8b9539f13a0ae)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfKktVk4.jpg&hash=657e0bf1968634c18a2110a771e4f7cabd6ac79f)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDtBhzLn.jpg&hash=375e01412412ada1362bf7a3820382c3f076f268)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF90WEqS.jpg&hash=f70b034aa3faacda621ba399ffac7e508dcec97b)
To be honest I think Bob Ringwood (who is a genius soaked with talent and my personal respect) can, on occasions, come across as something of a "fancy pants" too. I mean just listen to how he talks for starters. The man is very much "the gentleman" of prestigious movie costume design, just how certain dreadfully serious actors are sometimes comically referred to as "very much the ACtor".
I'll refer you also to his comments about David Fincher on Alien3 who he does admit to not liking at all on the Blu Ray. I think he somewhat looked down on Fincher for being the young "little bastard" in control of the film. And to be fair it is known Fincher himself could be something of a disrespectful twat to people like Fox executives. I don't think Ringwood liked his approach at all for those reasons, maybe finding it juvenile and unprofessional. Unfortunately it can be considered, well, a little snooty too. A refusal to adapt to certain changing styles of directors or looking down on certain kinds of people of "less professional status".
So his comment there about Schumacher I find a little shocking and harsh. Schumacher, flamboyant though he is, really never comes across as being particularly unpleasant. I remember Ringwood talking once with great enthusiasm about Jim Carrey and how they collaborated on the costume design, especially the Riddler's Las Vegas jacket. It never struck me he was ever dissatisfied with his Batman Forever experience or work. Why on earth then did he return one last time for Batman and Robin???
Quote from: Cobblepot4Mayor on Fri, 11 Dec 2015, 18:53
To be honest I think Bob Ringwood (who is a genius soaked with talent and my personal respect) can, on occasions, come across as something of a "fancy pants" too. I mean just listen to how he talks for starters. The man is very much "the gentleman" of prestigious movie costume design, just how certain dreadfully serious actors are sometimes comically referred to as "very much the ACtor".
I'll refer you also to his comments about David Fincher on Alien3 who he does admit to not liking at all on the Blu Ray. I think he somewhat looked down on Fincher for being the young "little bastard" in control of the film. And to be fair it is known Fincher himself could be something of a disrespectful twat to people like Fox executives. I don't think Ringwood liked his approach at all for those reasons, maybe finding it juvenile and unprofessional. Unfortunately it can be considered, well, a little snooty too. A refusal to adapt to certain changing styles of directors or looking down on certain kinds of people of "less professional status".
So his comment there about Schumacher I find a little shocking and harsh. Schumacher, flamboyant though he is, really never comes across as being particularly unpleasant. I remember Ringwood talking once with great enthusiasm about Jim Carrey and how they collaborated on the costume design, especially the Riddler's Las Vegas jacket. It never struck me he was ever dissatisfied with his Batman Forever experience or work. Why on earth then did he return one last time for Batman and Robin???
I don't know much about Ringold at all, and while I'm not a bigfan of Schumacher's Batman, although I can see the good things they did, and I didn't like Alien-cubed at all, I try not to disrespect the directors personally for the results of their work in collaboration with many people.
Quote from: Furstmobile on Fri, 11 Dec 2015, 14:42
So apparently there's also a Batman Returns Style Guide II in a white folder. One just sold on ebay for 300 bucks, it'll probably end up waterlogged in somebody's basement in ten years. Oh well. It's got some photos of the Penguin that WB really really doesn't want you to see.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-Returns-Style-Guide-1992-Michael-Keaton-Tim-Burton-/252171667188?nma=true&si=LcJjElmL%252FG3CxuxnpHAb9c7CSUc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiLCtJr0.jpg&hash=86b1b7492b0b098cecddf6a0d9a8b9539f13a0ae)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FfKktVk4.jpg&hash=657e0bf1968634c18a2110a771e4f7cabd6ac79f)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDtBhzLn.jpg&hash=375e01412412ada1362bf7a3820382c3f076f268)
(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FF90WEqS.jpg&hash=f70b034aa3faacda621ba399ffac7e508dcec97b)
I bought that one !
HOLY sh*t! lucky!
I don't think Joel S. was vile though. But his efforts on Batman were meddled with, and misguided especially for B&R, that is still I don't consider a terrible film.
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 06:13
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Thanks :) !
I'm planning on digitally scanning the entire guide so that I will have a high quality copy of it just in case (the prudent in me ;D).
I'd been looking for the
Batman Returns style guide for the longest time because 1)
Batman Returns is my favorite Batman film ever and 2) Jose Luis Garcia Lopez work for it is GENIUS.
I will send you the Catwoman artwork once I'm done scanning ;)
By the way, you a girl ?
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:18
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 06:13
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Thanks :) !
I'm planning on digitally scanning the entire guide so that I will have a high quality copy of it just in case (the prudent in me ;D).
I'd been looking for the Batman Returns style guide for the longest time because 1) Batman Returns is my favorite Batman film ever and 2) Jose Luis Garcia Lopez work for it is GENIUS.
I will send you the Catwoman designs once I'm done scanning ;)
By the way, you a girl ?
Very good idea to scan it just in case!
I'm glad you found it, then. Stuff like this is so cool and it's really neat when collectors find it.
I really appreciate that but you totally do not have to do that. In fact I'd kind of rather you didn't, knowing how much you paid, unless I pay for them. It would be totally unfair to see them for free after you paid $300 for it plus however much the shipping was. But thanks anyway!
And I was at last check. *checks again* Yep girl. :)
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:21
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:18
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 06:13
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Thanks :) !
I'm planning on digitally scanning the entire guide so that I will have a high quality copy of it just in case (the prudent in me ;D).
I'd been looking for the Batman Returns style guide for the longest time because 1) Batman Returns is my favorite Batman film ever and 2) Jose Luis Garcia Lopez work for it is GENIUS.
I will send you the Catwoman designs once I'm done scanning ;)
By the way, you a girl ?
Very good idea to scan it just in case!
I'm glad you found it, then. Stuff like this is so cool and it's really neat when collectors find it.
I really appreciate that but you totally do not have to do that. In fact I'd kind of rather you didn't, knowing how much you paid, unless I pay for them. It would be totally unfair to see them for free after you paid $300 for it plus however much the shipping was. But thanks anyway!
And I was at last check. *checks again* Yep girl. :)
Hey, if us Burton's Batman fans don't help each other, all hope will be lost in this world ;)
Plus, the guy who sold it to me was not even a fan. What good would it be if I kept it all for myself instead of sharing it with people like you and everyone else on here who would REALLY appreciate it :) ?
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 20:07
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:21
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:18
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 06:13
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Thanks :) !
I'm planning on digitally scanning the entire guide so that I will have a high quality copy of it just in case (the prudent in me ;D).
I'd been looking for the Batman Returns style guide for the longest time because 1) Batman Returns is my favorite Batman film ever and 2) Jose Luis Garcia Lopez work for it is GENIUS.
I will send you the Catwoman designs once I'm done scanning ;)
By the way, you a girl ?
Very good idea to scan it just in case!
I'm glad you found it, then. Stuff like this is so cool and it's really neat when collectors find it.
I really appreciate that but you totally do not have to do that. In fact I'd kind of rather you didn't, knowing how much you paid, unless I pay for them. It would be totally unfair to see them for free after you paid $300 for it plus however much the shipping was. But thanks anyway!
And I was at last check. *checks again* Yep girl. :)
Hey, if us Burton's Batman fans don't help each other, all hope will be lost in this world ;)
Plus, the guy who sold it to me was not even a fan. What good would it be if I kept it all for myself instead of sharing it with people like you and everyone else on here who would REALLY appreciate it :) ?
That is very sweet of you. :) I still think I and everyone else you share it with can do something, though. A gift card to Baskin Robbins for some ice cream? lol
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 22:16
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 20:07
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:21
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 17:18
Quote from: Catwoman on Sat, 19 Dec 2015, 06:13
I wish my siggy inspired the same sudden off topic conversation as Furstmobile's. lol.
Back on topic total congrats BR88! I guess posting scans of some of the cooler stuff (*coughanyCatwomandesignscough*) would be asking a bit much though if you paid that much for it. I'd want to keep it secret too I guess
Thanks :) !
I'm planning on digitally scanning the entire guide so that I will have a high quality copy of it just in case (the prudent in me ;D).
I'd been looking for the Batman Returns style guide for the longest time because 1) Batman Returns is my favorite Batman film ever and 2) Jose Luis Garcia Lopez work for it is GENIUS.
I will send you the Catwoman designs once I'm done scanning ;)
By the way, you a girl ?
Very good idea to scan it just in case!
I'm glad you found it, then. Stuff like this is so cool and it's really neat when collectors find it.
I really appreciate that but you totally do not have to do that. In fact I'd kind of rather you didn't, knowing how much you paid, unless I pay for them. It would be totally unfair to see them for free after you paid $300 for it plus however much the shipping was. But thanks anyway!
And I was at last check. *checks again* Yep girl. :)
Hey, if us Burton's Batman fans don't help each other, all hope will be lost in this world ;)
Plus, the guy who sold it to me was not even a fan. What good would it be if I kept it all for myself instead of sharing it with people like you and everyone else on here who would REALLY appreciate it :) ?
That is very sweet of you. :) I still think I and everyone else you share it with can do something, though. A gift card to Baskin Robbins for some ice cream? lol
Ha ha !
I'd love to track down the Style Guide I for
Batman Returns that was posted on page 1 of this very thread. If any of you were to come across it, would you share the info?
I'd pay whatever it'd cost to get it.
Hi guys - just wanted you all to know I've been able to snatch up the Batman Returns Style Guide 1, too.
It's even more rare than the Style Guide 2.
Gonna scan all of the designs in high-definition.
Nice!
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Sun, 13 Mar 2016, 13:28
Hi guys - just wanted you all to know I've been able to snatch up the Batman Returns Style Guide 1, too.
It's even more rare than the Style Guide 2.
Gonna scan all of the designs in high-definition.
Excellent, thanks for taking the time to do so.
I already have the Style Guide 2 scanned - who do I have to send the scans to ?
Gonna try and scan the Style Guide 1 next week.
Would you like to add them to the site as a feature or do you mean for private use among members?
You are awesome BR88! Thanks for sharing these with us (when you do I mean lol)!
Guys,is there any update on this?I would love to see those scanned images
Still haven't had time to scan the designs of the Style Guide 1 - I have the style guide 2 completely scanned, though. If anyone wants them, please send me a private message and we'll work it out.
Quote from: BatmanReturns88 on Fri, 29 Apr 2016, 23:07
Still haven't had time to scan the designs of the Style Guide 1 - I have the style guide 2 completely scanned, though. If anyone wants them, please send me a private message and we'll work it out.
PM sent. ;)
Mine too
I've answered to the both of you ;)