For me, this remains the most unsettling image of B89. It makes me laugh how people dismiss Nicholson's Joker for being 'campy', when he did committed crimes of this chilling nature.
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Yup, it's a scene a bring up all the time. That to me is pure Joker. He kills a guy laughing with a Joker gag/weapon.
I just hope this new Joaquin Phoenix movie goes to a more classic Joker, and not a watered down version, like Nolan's or the Azzarello graphic novel.
I have a thing about throats so probably the quill pen for me. Makes me cringe like crazy even nearly 30 years later.
As for the joy buzzer scene, I feel like I'm some kind of horrible person but I laugh at that one lol. That's the think about Jack's Joker, he does these horrible things but they're funny. Or maybe I'm just really f***ed in the head. Or a bit of both.
Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 2 Jul 2018, 19:17
Yup, it's a scene a bring up all the time. That to me is pure Joker. He kills a guy laughing with a Joker gag/weapon.
I just hope this new Joaquin Phoenix movie goes to a more classic Joker, and not a watered down version, like Nolan's or the Azzarello graphic novel.
Is that movie confirmed to shoot for real, or is that just clickbait gossip?
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 2 Jul 2018, 21:29
That's the think about Jack's Joker, he does these horrible things but they're funny. Or maybe I'm just really f***ed in the head. Or a bit of both.
I'd classify B89 as a black comedy. The Joker's morbid sense of humour and Burton's quirky style is a match made in
heaven hell.
The most disturbing scene for me is definitely that shot of Becky the newsreader with that big creepy rictus Joker grin on her face.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 3 Jul 2018, 13:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 2 Jul 2018, 21:29
That's the think about Jack's Joker, he does these horrible things but they're funny. Or maybe I'm just really f***ed in the head. Or a bit of both.
I'd classify B89 as a black comedy. The Joker's morbid sense of humour and Burton's quirky style is a match made in heaven hell.
Batman Returns fits that bill too, maybe even more. They were perfect.
The Joker frying Rotelli unlocked that gallows humor portion of my brain at a young age. I've seen it various times at the theater and many people react in shock when they see the charred corpse. It just makes me laugh even harder.
The scene with the Joker after plastic surgery.
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Wed, 18 Jul 2018, 21:24
The scene with the Joker after plastic surgery.
That's quite an iconic scene. I remember even The Simpsons parodied it when Lisa got her braces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwdZssNVPao
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 19 Jul 2018, 10:57
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Wed, 18 Jul 2018, 21:24
The scene with the Joker after plastic surgery.
That's quite an iconic scene. I remember even The Simpsons parodied it when Lisa got her braces.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwdZssNVPao
I'm still mad that I didn't get to do this when they put my braces on.
I'm also peeved when people refer to this film as being campy when it has the scene with the corpse. There's no way a major studio would allow a tent pole blockbuster to have a scene that disturbing in it nowadays.
As for other disturbing scenes I've always found this film's depiction of the Wayne murders unsettling. It feels like bad nightmare, and I love that it's told visually. Barely any words are said.
Another one for me that's not necessarily disturbing, but unsettling is when Batman briefly turns on Vicki in the Batcave. It's the only time I can think of where we the audience are also creeped out by Batman, and question his sanity. Again, it's just ballsy to include that in a mainstream superhero film. Looking back on this film they really pushed the envelope as far as they could.
Quote from: BatmanFurst on Fri, 1 Feb 2019, 22:32
Another one for me that's not necessarily disturbing, but unsettling is when Batman briefly turns on Vicki in the Batcave. It's the only time I can think of where we the audience are also creeped out by Batman, and question his sanity. Again, it's just ballsy to include that in a mainstream superhero film. Looking back on this film they really pushed the envelope as far as they could.
That's a really good point. If that scene happened in today's pitiful excuse for a movie landscape, morons would probably think Batman had attacked Vicki. Judging from the slanderous nonsense I've seen people write about Snyder's DC movies in the last six years, I can only imagine clickbait pieces of garbage like ComicBook.com writing articles speculating whether or not Batman had sexually assaulted her after knocking her unconscious. I can only imagine lunatics going on Twitter to make delusional claims that Burton made Batman a rapist, and misrepresenting that scene even further by turning it into a point about "something, something rape culture, patriarchy". It wouldn't register to these f***ing idiots that Batman knocked her out because he had to confiscate the pictures she took of him when he fought the Joker goons in the alley - including the moment where they took his mask off - and he didn't want to compromise his true identity.
Oh no, the creepy Batman must be a sexual predator!
::)
The vast majority of today's moviegoers and writers covering film are mentally deficient. They can all go and get f***ed.
Putting that little rant aside, you're right about how ballsy B89 was at the time. People
say Batman is a dark and morally grey hero, and get a kick if other characters say he's crazy, but they don't want him to
exhibit such behaviour, it seems. No, what they really want from the movies is to pay lip service for his character traits.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 1 Feb 2019, 23:17
Putting that little rant aside, you're right about how ballsy B89 was at the time. People say Batman is a dark and morally grey hero, and get a kick if other characters say he's crazy, but they don't him to exhibit such behaviour, it seems. No, what they really want from the movies is to pay lip service for his character traits.
For me this is the only film that addresses his insanity. It's interesting how it's put in contrast with the Joker's insanity as well.