Officially announced for a 10.04.24 release date.
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Definitely looking forward to this one.
After today's announcement, it was time for "Joker: Folie à Deux" to get what it ****ing deserves!
It's own thread.
Joker II and The Batman II are the only WB projects I'm passionately interested in, and this is where their mind should be at. I think the goal here should be not to mimic the first movie too much, but to provide a different type of experience. I've seen recent chatter that a lot of the movie does involve Arkham, and the musical component is present but perhaps not as dominant as first thought. A Clockwork Orange's 'Singing in the Rain' moment has been used as an example. If Joker 2's violence is as hard as the leaks suggest the movie will be a force of nature. And exactly what this particular universe should be capable of.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 21 Sep 2019, 06:35
As for the disturbing commentary, I don't see the problem because that excites me the most. I'm hoping for hyper realism to the point if feels like a documentary, shocking people to the core. It's time for F bombs and blood, showing the full potential of the cinematic character, well elevated above what Nicholson or Ledger presented. Instead of cutting away in a typical B89/TDK style blockbuster, show us the knife going in and the bullet nearly blowing the head off. I think that should be the whole point of the movie. This is the format for that experience, because we're not really going to see it anywhere else outside the comics. We laugh at chattering teeth and long barrelled guns, but gore and tragedy is the true soul of the character.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 5 Aug 2022, 03:03
Joker II and The Batman II are the only WB projects I'm passionately interested in, and this is where their mind should be at. I think the goal here should be not to mimic the first movie too much, but to provide a different type of experience. I've seen recent chatter that a lot of the movie does involve Arkham, and the musical component is present but perhaps not as dominant as first thought. A Clockwork Orange's 'Singing in the Rain' moment has been used as an example. If Joker 2's violence is as hard as the leaks suggest the movie will be a force of nature. And exactly what this particular universe should be capable of.
One interesting facet of JFAD is, as far as I can recall, this is the first time an actor has returned to the Joker in big screen cinema. Nicholson had one bite at the apple. Ledger also only did it once (whatever the plan might have originally been).
But Phoenix is in a unique position to take another swing at the character. There are a lot of possibilities with that kind of opportunity.
When all is said and done, this will be Phoenix's signature role. What I like about this is the fact he now gets to be the Joker full time, opposed to simply becoming him. If it's anything like his appearance on Murray's show, particularly his initial lighthearted entrance, it's something to look forward to.
A thought I had today is using Sinatra version of Fly Me To The Moon during the movie, probably for a sequence of delirious mania as Arthur and Gaga run riot. Obviously the main idea behind this is connective tissue to That's Life from the original. But the lyrics are perfect for a love story that can twist into darkness.
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Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 5 Aug 2022, 03:03
Joker II and The Batman II are the only WB projects I'm passionately interested in, and this is where their mind should be at. I think the goal here should be not to mimic the first movie too much, but to provide a different type of experience. I've seen recent chatter that a lot of the movie does involve Arkham, and the musical component is present but perhaps not as dominant as first thought. A Clockwork Orange's 'Singing in the Rain' moment has been used as an example. If Joker 2's violence is as hard as the leaks suggest the movie will be a force of nature. And exactly what this particular universe should be capable of.
One interesting facet of JFAD is, as far as I can recall, this is the first time an actor has returned to the Joker in big screen cinema. Nicholson had one bite at the apple. Ledger also only did it once (whatever the plan might have originally been).
But Phoenix is in a unique position to take another swing at the character. There are a lot of possibilities with that kind of opportunity.
Nope, Leto has been Joker in SS and JL.
Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 5 Aug 2022, 14:06Nope, Leto has been Joker in SS and JL.
Technically the truth. But Leto's ZSJL role was so small... eh. If you think it counts, fine. I'll accept it. But's so brief...
I actually think his role was even more brief in SS. lol
Leto is another DCEU actor that effectively joined Miller, Heard and Cavill in being hidden from view due to differing reasons. Imagine signing up to play such a prominent, iconic role and having only a handful of minutes of footage in total put on the big screen. If a reboot does happen down the line, that can't be allowed to happen again. It kills the momentum and integrity of a shared universe as gaping holes are created. And then along came Phoenix with a film and sequel all to himself, rivalling or in my opinion bettering Ledger.
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First look at the musical sequel.
In 2019, JOKER was the only comic book-related project in the pipeline for which I had any enthusiasm or excitement. Strange that I'm in pretty much the exact same situation with Folie à Deux.
But is it? TJ's first look looks like a logical visual continuation of the original. Certainly, Phoenix seems to be bodily back in character. It's very thrilling how this looks like it'll very much in the same vocabulary as the first one.
I still don't understand the 2024 release date. Makes me wonder that there's some boardroom shenanigans going on there. But whatever. Can't wait to see this movie.
Composer Hildur Guðnadóttir is officially back and has begun working on the film. It's great that the original creative talent is on board for the sequel, knowing what we will receive is wholly legitimate and how it should be. I can't imagine JOKER being the same without Guðnadóttir's score.
I loved the score in the first one. Very haunting at times.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 13 Jan 2023, 11:29
Composer Hildur Guðnadóttir is officially back and has begun working on the film. It's great that the original creative talent is on board for the sequel, knowing what we will receive is wholly legitimate and how it should be. I can't imagine JOKER being the same without Guðnadóttir's score.
Her score is one of the best parts of the first movie, if you ask me. I listen to the score semi-regularly and adore it every time. So, this is definitely good news. I would've been disappointed if she didn't come back.
Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 13 Jan 2023, 14:54
I loved the score in the first one. Very haunting at times.
It captures Arthur's mental torment incredibly. Based on the photo of Arthur getting a shave the tone still seems dark and serious, rather than the one note lighthearted musical people are imagining. I think there will be tonal changes, and they would work a lot better in this context. The Joker character is all about making fun of death, misery and hallucinating a world that doesn't exist.
First look at Harley Quinn
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Ah, nice.
I wonder if this is going to be shot mainly in Arkham? Last time, we got so many spy pics because they shot on location. We haven't seen anything like that, so far. I'm guessing this will be on a more closed set this time.
Either way, that's a cool pic.
So the rumor is that Harley isn't Joker's doctor, but instead, will be another patient in Arkham alongside Joker.
Some people are mad, but the first film changed the mythos up so much, I don't see any reason to be mad about this, unless you just hated the first movie. These are going to be Elseworld/Black Label for a reason.
Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 23 Feb 2023, 17:21
So the rumor is that Harley isn't Joker's doctor, but instead, will be another patient in Arkham alongside Joker.
Some people are mad, but the first film changed the mythos up so much, I don't see any reason to be mad about this, unless you just hated the first movie. These are going to be Elseworld/Black Label for a reason.
Me either. Differentiating from previous incarnations kinda goes along with the territory.
So there's some set footage going around, and it looks like there's multiple Jokers. Not sure what's going on, but it's cool to see.
Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 6 Mar 2023, 15:03
So there's some set footage going around, and it looks like there's multiple Jokers. Not sure what's going on, but it's cool to see.
I'm guessing it's a dream or hallucination in which Arthur is trying to outrun his past. The two people chasing him – one dressed like Fleck, the other like Joker – probably symbolise former identities he's trying to put behind him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrDmbQD3htg
Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 23 Feb 2023, 17:21
So the rumor is that Harley isn't Joker's doctor, but instead, will be another patient in Arkham alongside Joker.
Some people are mad, but the first film changed the mythos up so much, I don't see any reason to be mad about this, unless you just hated the first movie. These are going to be Elseworld/Black Label for a reason.
Fine by me. The two can become aquainted with each other without Harley being a psychiatrist. Despite being a major difference I don't think it makes much of a difference in the end. Arguably, both being patients makes their connection stronger as they're automatically on the same level and thus wavelength. It doesn't diminish the Joker's potential to manipulate her emotions. And it makes a clear distinction between this and Margot's take.
I'm still not a big fan, but I've warmed up to the idea of Gaga in recent times. Madonna is a washed up alien hag whose time is well and truly over. I'm completely okay with Gaga being for the here and now, taking the mantle Madonna had once upon a time. She's the better actress, for one. And I can see her delivering an intense type of crazy that isn't as childishly annoying as Robbie. The still image that was recently released suggests that to me.
Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 6 Mar 2023, 15:03
So there's some set footage going around, and it looks like there's multiple Jokers. Not sure what's going on, but it's cool to see.
Joaquin looks great: meaning about the same unhealthy weight as last time. Running through the streets played a large part of the first, too. With this set footage alone I'm feeling comfortable that the sequel will have the same aesthetic of the original while expanding upon what we've already seen. I'm excited about this movie.
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Mon, 6 Mar 2023, 21:49
I'm guessing it's a dream or hallucination in which Arthur is trying to outrun his past. The two people chasing him – one dressed like Fleck, the other like Joker – probably symbolise former identities he's trying to put behind him.
I wouldn't doubt that's the case. After all, Arthur is a rather
unreliable narrator, and showcasing his fantasy delusions in vivid fashion would be perfectly aligned with the 2019's "Joker" presentation. At this point, I'm expecting Sophie Dumond's reappearance to run parallel to this.
There's new spy pics that show Arkham is on fire. 8)
Another look at Gaga's Harley Quinn.
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I'm going to be disappointed if this all has too many similarities to The Trickster episodes of The Flash. It's bad enough that they won't acknowledge its influence for The Animated Series. They're already on that path in the first one with Arthur's fantasy relationship with Sophie and now it seems like Lady Gaga's Harley will be a crazy fan like Zoey Clark was.
Haven't heard of anything pertaining to Harvey Dent, but .....
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Todd Phillips appears to be waging war on my reservations about this sequel.
And he's winning.
Nothing I've seen or heard about the sequel gives me red flags. I'm trusting Phillips and Phoenix know what they're doing.
I'm loving all the set pics. Everything looks great.
I love the Harley design.
New images featuring both Joker and Harley in Folie à Deux.
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It's good to finally see Joker in full makeup. I was getting a bit worried there. 8)
Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 6 Apr 2023, 19:31
It's good to finally see Joker in full makeup. I was getting a bit worried there. 8)
You and me both. haha!
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In addition to the released images on Valentines Day, Cinematographer Lawrence Sher seems to be downplaying the film being an outright musical. Stating; 'JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX' "isn't a musical per se, it just has music in it." "The music is part of the film and the characters but I don't know if it's a musical. But yes, there is music."
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 15 Feb 2024, 14:17Stating; 'JOKER: FOLIE À DEUX' "isn't a musical per se, it just has music in it." "The music is part of the film and the characters but I don't know if it's a musical. But yes, there is music."
That's good news for me. I'm still skeptical of the "musical" angle, but I love the first movie so much, I'm still pumped for this.
Oh, and those pics are great. Thanks for sharing. 8)
Music was a prominent part of JOKER with the use of That's Life and other musical montages. Retaining that and fleshing it out into something even more surreal (as the enlarged moon in the images suggests) would be fine with me. I'm sure they're not going to prevent Phoenix or Gaga flex their acting muscles. I'm still optimistic about the movie and can't wait for the trailer.
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My anticipation for this movie remains strong.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 10 Apr 2024, 02:34https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy8aJw1vYHo
My anticipation for this movie remains strong.
Looks f***ing great.
Pretty nice trailer.
God, anything that's bold enough to steer away from the same old, same old, standard formulaic Marvel/DC capestuff that we've been saturated with is a resounding plus!
Phillips/Phoenix have earned trust.
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A few parallels from the trailer.
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Also, there's been some comparisons with the 1964 musical/romance film, "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg".
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And either way you cut it, white suited Joker is always cool.
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This trailer has energy. This trailer has excitement. The JOKER films know the power of musical montages and juxtaposition, and the emotion it elicits. These sequences from the trailer put the character's psychosis on full blast and show how his state of mind is the character's superpower. Even in a drab cell he can escape to this zany happy place to make his torment easier, and he can also use this mania when killing and escaping.
It seems to me the sequel is going to be a dive into insanity even more than the first. The references to the original film work nicely too, namely the gestures, body language and locations. This looks and feels like the same universe while pushing into new territory. I also dig how it seems Harley exists but could be left up to interpretation just how much of their relationship is real. Can't wait. Movie of the year incoming.