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They're pretty similar, but I prefer BR score more.

It's still my favorite fight in a live action Batman movie, by far. You see Batman kicking, dodging, punching, rolling around on the ground, etc. all of which can clearly be seen.

I don't know why anybody would have a problem with it?

Hardy's Bane and his plan were just head scratchingly absurd:

I know this doesn't pertain to the video you shared, but a lot of stuff that Bane did in the movie made absolutely no sense at all. The most obvious one is his plan in the prologue. What was the point of risking the lives of all of your men PLUS yourself, just to kidnap Pavel to make it look like he was dead, when you already have Pavel in the friggin car before you got on the plane? Here's an idea: transfer his blood over to someone in the car, and drive the car off the cliff. Easy way to do it, especially since they had him to begin with. It looked really cool in the movie, but made absolutely no sense whatsoever. And why do people need to think he was dead in order for the plan to work? He's missing, he's dead: what's the difference?

Am I the only one who thinks it might be kind of funny to have a JLA movie that did try to fit within the "realistic" boundaries of Nolan's Bat-trilogy? Just imagine how all the classic heroes could be Nolanised.

•   Barry Allen/the Flash would be a track runner whose speed maxes out at 25 miles per hour. The lightning bolt emblem would be the corporate logo of his sponsor.

•   The Green Lantern ring would actually be a web ring comprised of engineers in various fields. Whenever Hal Jordon imagines something, he uploads the designs to the Green Lantern website and members of the web ring construct the various components and send them to him.

•   Aquaman would be a scuba diver. It doesn't need to get any more complicated than that.

•   Captain Marvel would be a bodybuilder suffering from the delusion that he's actually a ten year old boy. "Shazam" is the trigger word his psychiatrist uses to bring him out of trances during hypnotherapy. He has no super powers beyond his steroid-induced physical strength.

•   Robin is a cop whose name just happens to be Robin.

Etc, etc. It would be a lousy superhero movie, but it might make a decent comedy.

He's too similar to Nolan for me. I'm not really thrilled about the thought of more Nolan-esque Batman movies.

I've seen quotations aplenty calling back to Batman #1 as the starting point for Nolan's Joker. Between his mob associations, the public announcements of his crimes, killing some people, getting caught and then escaping that same night, I feel like I can draw a much straighter line to Batman #1. Sure, aspects of his agenda tie in to TKJ (all it takes is one bad day/when the chips are down, these civilized people will eat each other) but I'd argue at least 90% of what he does in TDK comes from the Golden Age. Or, as was my original point, Burton gets crucified for adapting the Golden Age Batman while Nolan gets a free pass on adapting the Golden Age Joker.

I've made this argument so many times on SHH, and I would just get blasted for it every time.

I got a better idea of the plot and characters tonight through a certain channel. I think a few of you guys will find lots of comparisons between TDKR and a few other movies.

A few other bat-movies, or just regular movies in general?

See, this is the thing, you're telling me that my opinion is flat out wrong: end of story. Yet, at the same time, you keep selling this bullsh*t story of how much you don't like Nolan's movies. So apparently, as I'm reading this, I can't have an opinion, regardless of how much I tried to flesh it out, but at the same time, you can have an opinion on what you see fit, and if it doesn't fall into your same mindset, than it's wrong. You say Bale looks silly as Batman, but it apparently blows your mind that I don't like Batman fighting during the day.

"upset over nothing" Christ, for a second there, I thought SHH was bad? Dude, I just stated my opinion of somethings that I don't like, you were the one who pointed it out. I was just trying to flesh out why I thought that, since you've been dismissing it as something so juvenile. Sorry for "trying to lecture you on Batman".

Well, I guess I'll just stick to The Hype.....

DocLathropBrown, this is an instance when realism gets in the way of good storytelling. Does crime happen during the day? Of course. But in a movie, crime happens whenever the director wants. Daylight just doesn't suit the aesthetics of the Batman. It highlights the ridiculousness of the character (not to mention Nolan's Batsuit).

This is more or less what I was getting at. My point is, Batman fights at night, and like The Dark Knight said, Bruce can still work during the day like he did in TDK, but he does it as Bruce. He can still be a hero during the day as Bruce/Matches Malone, but coming out during the day as Batman is a bit out of place. "Bats are nocturnal".

I get what you're saying about Bane being such a threat, that he brings Batman out during the day, but again, that was Nolan's choice to do that, and one aesthetic that I don't like. Batman fights at night, and it just looks out of place and silly when he comes out during the day hours. Batman looked out of place at a charity event in B&R, because Batman doesn't do that. Batman looks silly fighting during the day, cause he doesn't really do that, either. Batman normally has to hide in the shadows, and scare everybody into thinking he is a bat-creature. Most of the allure and symbolism is lost by coming out during the day. Bruce might as well wear SWAT gear and a ski mask, if he's going to fight during the day. It just humanizes Batman, and makes him look less of a threat.

I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't rather have Batman fighting during the night, and I don't know why you can't understand why some may not like it? What's next, a Catwoman that shows no feline traits to her?     I kid, I kid......