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#1
The Wikipedia post for Tim Drake claims the creators named the character after Tim Burton. Has anyone seen a direct quote from from Marv Wolfman or Pat Broderick that backs this up?
#2
1989Batman.com got their hands on the press kit for Returns. For fans of the  film this is a real treat. Just 10 minutes of behind the scenes b-roll.
#3
Hey guys I bought this Batman Returns poster for my job. However, the company is moving to a different region so I no longer have any need for the poster. The poster is 4x6, and  does have some damage on the bottom right (see pictures). I'm giving this away free of charge. If anybody is interested please send me a pm.
#4
Batman (1989) / 1990 Robin Redesign
Sun, 20 Sep 2020, 18:44
"Back in 1990, @dccomics set about re-designing the Robin character for his upcoming return to comics. One of the artists asked to submit designs for this was the late Norm Breyfogle. Norm sent in a batch of new designs and, even though @dccomics ultimately went with the @thenealadams version, many of the elements in @normbreyfogleart 's designs made their way into the character (the "R" symbol, the folding staff, etc.). The reason I'm sharing this here, though? One of the coolest elements about Breyfogle's Robin designs was his admitted incorporation of the 1989 movie style Batman boots and gloves!" Credit to @Burtonsgotham on Instagram. Highly recommend checking this page out if you're a Burton Batman fan. https://www.instagram.com/burtonsgotham/?hl=en
#5
Hey Guys, I came across a great video that explores Michael Gough's Alfred. The highlight for me is that it's the first YouTube video I've seen that finally gives a proper explanation as to why Alfred let Vicki Vale into the Bat-Cave. I'm surprised it's taken this long.

#7
This is such a nerdy nitpick, but it does bother me every time I look at the poster. Has anyone else noticed that on the poster Val Kilmer's head is in the Panther suit, but the arms and cape are from the sonar suit?
#8
Batman (1989) / Comics Interview with Sam Hamm
Thu, 26 Mar 2020, 20:43
Hey guys! In case no one has read this here's a great interview with San Hamm on the 89 film. It's probably the best interview I've read with Hamm discussing the film.  http://www.1989batman.com/2013/05/vintage-magazine-article-comics.html?m=1

My favorite pull from the interview was this quote: "Every generation there's going to be another bunch of people who come in and have a whole lot of ideas about "wouldn't it be cool if Batman was this, did this, etc., etc." Think that's a very healthy thing...I mean, that's just a natural part of the process. And so as far as doing a particular Batman, that never really entered my mind because I didn't think there was one Batman to do. And fans are concerned about what the interpretation of the character is going to be-. Well, if I did the Batman that I first started reading when I was a kid, who made the first and strongest impression on me, he would be traveling back in time to meet the Aztecs, and fighting pink aliens."
#9
An uploader on YouTube recently uploaded a bts video for the Batman and Robin Pop Tarts commercial which was made by her Dad. Check it out below.
BTS Video

The Original Pop Tarts Commercial
#10
For years now I've seen people say that the famous "I'm Batman" line was a creation of Michael Keaton's. Supposedly the original response to the thug was going to be "I'm the night". However, now it seems that Jon Peters is taking credit for the line even going so far as to say that he originally wanted it to be "I'm Batman mother*****". So what's the truth here? Did it originally come from Keaton or Peters?
#11
Batman (1989) / Gotham City Tour
Fri, 19 Jul 2019, 01:06
Hey guys I just saw this vid on YouTube with a British reporter being walked around the Gotham City set. It's a little short, but better than nothing.
#12
Batman Returns (1992) / Cape Glider
Wed, 22 May 2019, 01:21
Hey guys I need some help. Was Batman Returns the first to come up with the idea of Batman using his cape to glide, or was that already in the comics? I can't seem to find any solid answer.
#13
I was thinking of ways to make this film a bit tighter. My solution is removing three characters.
1. Talia
2. John Daggett
3. Foley
It really feels like those characters are only in there to complicate the plot. I don't think you'll lose much by cutting them out.
#14
Does anybody else see the similarities between John Ryder and Heath Ledger's Joker?
SPOILERS FOR THE HITCHER
1. You never know their real name
2. You never know who they were, or what their motivations are
3. They each have a weird relationship with the protagonists
5. They both kill the protagonists love interest.
6.They randomly pop up in their respective films, and the police can't contain them.
Idk, I think Nolan was hugely inspired by this film. I've also read that he does enjoy the film.

"As a teenager I never questioned the logic of this Eighties chiller, but now it seems mind-bendingly arbitrary plot-wise.  However, it does feature the criminally underappreciated Rutger Hauer in his finest and most influential Euro-psycho performance this side of Blade Runner." - Christopher Nolan
#15
Batman (1989) / The Reason Behind The Map
Sat, 9 Feb 2019, 13:42
There are two scenes in this movie that I need help with. The first is when Alfred asks Bruce to tell Vicki the truth, and the second is right before Bruce asks Alfred for the file on his parents. In both of these scenes Bruce is staring at a map. In the second one he's staring at a monitor with Axis Chemicals circled on it. My question is what's the point of the maps? Did Bruce figure out that's where the Joker was hiding, or did he finally figure out that's where Smylex was being manufactured?  I was under the impression that the main reason he blew it up was to kill the Joker which is why the Joker says " miss me" later on so I'm thinking it's the former rather than the latter.
#16
This film deservedly gets a lot of hate, but I just wanted to give it a bit of love. Batman ejecting from the Batmobile in mid-air and gliding back down is amazing, one of my favorite shots in any Batman film thus far. I remember rewinding that part over and over again when I was a kid.
#17
Really hate to add to pile of negativity surrounding this film, it feels like I'm beating a dead horse at this point. Let me start by saying that I like/love Nolan's trilogy. Begins is pretty good, The Dark Knight is my favorite comic book film, and Rises....it really depends on the day. A big problem for me with Rises is the whole section where Bruce is stuck in the pit, and the story keeps jumping back and forth between that and Gotham under Bane's rule. For some reason this part of the film is where I start to lose interest and get a little bored. I think part of that is due to the fact that the story of Gotham under siege isn't going to progress until Bruce gets out of the pit. So we're just waiting for him to get out so the plot can continue. Not to mention that this section brings up the biggest plot hole of the trilogy which is how did Bruce get back to Gotham? For me there's a lot to like about this film, but it's uneven.
#18
Batman Forever (1995) / My Problem with Robin
Fri, 1 Feb 2019, 23:39
How this film treats Robin has always bothered me. Throughout the film Batman constantly says he doesn't need a partner, and that Dick is going to get himself killed. However, at the end of the film he accepts Robin as his partner. Why? What changed in Bruce to make him finally accept a partner. On top of that he's proven to be right in not wanting a partner because Robin is completely useless. He gets captured by the Riddler's henchmen, then gets captured again by Two-Face. Seems like a glaring problem with the script.
#19
Batman (1989) / Batman's arc
Sat, 8 Dec 2018, 17:05
Hi guys, first time commentor here. Just had a question about Batman's arc in this film. Earlier this month I came across a negative review of the film on YouTube. One of the criticisms was that Batman has no arc. However, I disagree, in fact I think there are two ways to look at his arc.

1. Clearly this Batman is just starting out since no one besides a few thugs have actually seen him. Batman taking on the Joker seems to be his first big break if you will. By ridding the city of the Joker he's taken from being a small time vigilante to taking up the mantle as Gotham's protector by the end. I think that's the basic arc for the character.

2. This is my interpretation of it. By being the killer of Bruce's parents the Joker is a physical manifestation of the trauma that's haunted Bruce for years. When Jack is turned into the Joker and starts wreaking havoc that trauma is reintroduced into Bruce's life. By confronting, and ultimately eradicating that trauma he's finally overcome it, and that allows him to be the hero he was born to be.

Is my interpretation a stretch? What do you guys think Batman's arc is?