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Title: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Tue, 24 Jan 2023, 22:35

Giving Wondy her own thread in the comics section, and to possibly/occasionally post and blather about Wonder Woman topics that doesn't really associate with whatever is going on within the DCEU.

FLASHBACK 1997

Wizard Magazine's "character" profile of Wonder Woman.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FnMVaH_aYAI12fx?format=jpg&name=large)

What kinda stands out to me with this profile, was that it was published nearly 2 years into John Byrne's 3 year (some would say controversial stint) run on Wonder Woman from the summer of 1995 to the summer of 1998. Personally, I didn't really mind his run when I was reading it way back when, as it was bold and I love Byrne's art style, but at the same time I can also see how Byrne's stint on the book was 'your mileage may vary' depending on the reader. Being that Byrne took over the book just a few years following George Perez's universally praised and defining run on the character, definitely didn't do him many favors either. As he attempted some wild swings with not only Wonder Woman continuity, but the DCU 1990's continuity (post-Zero Hour) as well.

As far as Wonder Woman comics goes, John Byrne's time on the book was a notable one for sure. 
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 00:36

Wonder Woman statue recently unveiled in Burbank.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrR40fOWIAA8jDg?format=jpg&name=large)
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Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: BatmanFurst on Sat, 18 Mar 2023, 15:12
They gotta do Superman now to complete the trinity.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 12 Nov 2023, 02:15
While the change from Clark Kent to Superman used various location means (most famously the phone booth), one of the more often used ways to change from Diana Prince to Wonder Woman was achieved by merely using the loop in her magical lasso.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-crYRcWgAA6pYu?format=jpg&name=900x900)

Course, ever since the Lynda Carter Wonder Woman show, the slow-motion light flash spin has become to more widely known means of how Diana Prince changes into Wonder Woman. Nonetheless, in the pilot episode of that show, it's achieved a little differently. As it's basically Lynda removing her clothes in a network friendly manner while slowly spinning. Producer Douglas S. Cramer once referred to it as something of a "slow motion strip tease."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knEy_qqrxJU

The light flash spin change was basically dropped during the Post-Crisis era due to "Diana Prince" being scaled back considerably compared to it's Pre-Crisis use. However, the classic flash spin would make a comeback following the "Infinite Crisis" event, when the Diana Prince identity was reinstated as a Agent.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EoGsj0MVQAEMto4.jpg)

(https://ifanboy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FEB100177.jpg)

Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sun, 12 Nov 2023, 05:18
Quote from: The Joker on Tue, 24 Jan  2023, 22:35What kinda stands out to me with this profile, was that it was published nearly 2 years into John Byrne's 3 year (some would say controversial stint) run on Wonder Woman from the summer of 1995 to the summer of 1998. Personally, I didn't really mind his run when I was reading it way back when, as it was bold and I love Byrne's art style, but at the same time I can also see how Byrne's stint on the book was 'your mileage may vary' depending on the reader. Being that Byrne took over the book just a few years following George Perez's universally praised and defining run on the character, definitely didn't do him many favors either. As he attempted some wild swings with not only Wonder Woman continuity, but the DCU 1990's continuity (post-Zero Hour) as well.

As far as Wonder Woman comics goes, John Byrne's time on the book was a notable one for sure.
It's been all these years so his run is pretty hazy for me. But didn't he reinstate Wonder Woman's role in the JSA by having Hippolyta travel back in time, assume the identity of Wonder Woman and join the team? I swear to think that's what happened. And I love it, ONLY Byrne could make something that complicated.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 12 Nov 2023, 09:56
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 12 Nov  2023, 05:18It's been all these years so his run is pretty hazy for me. But didn't he reinstate Wonder Woman's role in the JSA by having Hippolyta travel back in time, assume the identity of Wonder Woman and join the team? I swear to think that's what happened. And I love it, ONLY Byrne could make something that complicated.

Yeah, Byrne had a itch to reinstate Wondy as a JSA member via Queen Hippolyte and a time travel story, and has said he thought George Perez's idea of Wondy being an immortal amazon (she's stated to be over two thousand years old in the Carter tv show ... I can't remember if her age is stated in the DCAU, but she did have a WW2 adventure with Steve Trevor), but only 22-25 years old at the start of the Post-Crisis era, was something of a misstep. Despite publicly stating he enjoyed much of Perez's work on the character.

Evidently, the JSA/Hippolyte idea was Byrne's way of getting  "Wonder Woman" back as a founding JSA member (even if it wasn't Diana), without having to do a major retcon of George's work. As convoluted as it was, I can understand Byrne's point of view on this.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 12 Dec 2023, 08:59
The first issue of Post-Crisis Wonder Woman was one of the few comics I remember having, but I lost it ages ago. I will have to get my hands on it to read it again one day.

I read Batman/Superman/Wonder Woman: Trinity, and I remember the story didn't shy away from the tension that Wonder Woman and Batman had, specifically how she finds his crime-fighting methods to be rather brutal. This is something I doubt that most gatekeepers online would approve of because the protagonists having any sort of conflict appears to be out of the question for them. But without this drama between them, you have characters who agree with each other all the time. Where's the fun in that? It also makes you question if other heroes like Wonder Woman should be allowed to judge Batman's methods, are her methods any less terrorising than hers or Superman's just because he preys on fear?

Matt Wagner didn't shy away from Diana's distrust of Earth's volatile nature after she was tortured by Ra's al Ghul and Bizarro, even having her go so far as to condemn the patriarchial ways of the planet. Sure, she may have suffered a frenzied rant because of the side-effects by her dip into the Lazarus Pit, but even so, I don't mind this sort of feminist dialogue, because at some point, Diana learns to overcome prejudice to join forces with good men. The one comical moment, however, is when Batman is smitten at the sight of her having a bath when he found her at Themyscira, and she reacted by giving him a good punch in the mouth, haha.

For a story about the Trinity's first-ever meeting together, would it be appreciated if it were released today, or would it be ripped to shreds on social media? Well, I thought it was a good comic when I read, and I wouldn't mind reading it again.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 17 Dec 2023, 05:22

Following George Perez's defining work on Wonder Woman, artist Brian Bolland took the reigns as Wonder Woman comic book cover artist from 1992 to 1995 (concluding just prior to the John Byrne run). Providing a multitude of memorable art featuring the Amazing Amazon.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fy2G59VWcAM-Luk?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 25 Feb 2024, 02:23

From Wonder Woman Volume 2 #167 in 2001. Art by Phil Jimenez. During the "Gods of Gotham" story line.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGQhRYmWoAABM_t?format=jpg&name=large)

This was also during a time period where Adam Hughes was providing covers for the Wonder Woman title. A personal favorite Wonder Woman artist of mine. Here's a particular cover Hughes illustrated with Wondy and Bats.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GGQM57xWEAIBt6J?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 13 Apr 2024, 01:25

Who's Who in the DC Universe profile on the Golden Age Earth-Two Wonder Woman.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK15IEgbUAAHdoe?format=jpg&name=large)

Being that this incarnation of Wonder Woman was also a survivor of "Crisis on Infinite Earths", it was cool seeing her return to correspond with the Post-Crisis Wonder Woman during "Infinite Crisis" 20 years later. She soon after faded away (possibly from existence? It was never resolved to my knowledge.) given that she departed from her refuge at Mount Olympus without the Gods' blessing in order to plea to Diana to be more 'human', and intervene between the battle of the Earth-Two Superman, and Post-Crisis Superman.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 01:39
Wonder Woman #600 variant cover by Adam Hughes from back in 2010. Featuring Hughes' rendition of Sensation Comics #1.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GMLXLI0XEAAFmC9?format=jpg&name=large)

(https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/5/5a/Sensation_Comics_1.jpg)

Back when I was still buying comics, pre-ordering was very untypical of me. However, WW #600 was a special case. I picked up the main George Perez cover, along with the Don Kramer 2nd printing cover (featuring the short lived black leather jacket/black pants look), but the Hughes cover was the one I really wanted. I can't remember what I paid for it, but my OCD for particular variant covers was probably at a all time high back then. Now, it's pretty much non existent.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: thecolorsblend on Mon, 29 Apr 2024, 02:16
I luvz me some Adam Hughes. Guy's a legend. I have no idea how he makes a living tho since it doesn't look like he does full interiors very often and I can't imagine that covers and pinups pay very much.

But I've always been fond of this one:

(https://i.imgur.com/noKHEdQ.jpeg)

I always found it telling that you can identify each character even tho they're dressed fairly identically to each other. Zatanna, Babs and Wonder Woman are easy but the others could've (and should've?) been very hard to distinguish from each other. But somehow, they're not.

And here are some scans from Wizard #45, May 1995. A fairly lengthy interview with Hughes.

(https://i.imgur.com/firBtvc.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uOXlB65.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/jM1CHfh.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/NXo6CFr.jpeg)
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 4 May 2024, 19:48
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 29 Apr  2024, 02:16(https://i.imgur.com/jM1CHfh.jpeg)

I've got that Return of the Jedi comic. It only adapts the movie as far as the scene where Obi-Wan tells Luke that Leia is his sister. Apparently the rest of the film was covered in the second issue, but my local comic book store didn't stock that back in 1994 so I never got to read it. Still, the first issue does a decent job adapting the movie's opening act, including the entire Tatooine sequence. If the second half is as good, the two issues combined would make for a satisfying adaptation.
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 4 May 2024, 23:49

Adam Hughes' cover artwork on Wonder Woman was really caught my eyes back in the day, but I do remember first seeing his art on the covers for Vampirella and Tomb Raider as well.

I do vividly recall reading from Wizard Magazine that Adam Hughes was set to do a "All-Star Wonder Woman" book which would follow both the All-Star Superman and Batman books, and was to feature Adam Hughes art on both the covers and interiors, but unfortunately nothing came of it.

Adam Hughes sold Wondy very well, and DC Comics at the time were well aware of this. As Hughes' art was featured on the covers of both the "Official Character Guide" book from the early 2000's, and also the "Essential Encyclopedia" from around 2009/2010.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fDMCR4G/Wonder-Woman-Guide-Cover-rough.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/pd3dTW83/WW-Book-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Wonder Woman (DC Comics)
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 12 May 2024, 06:28

In 2001, DC Comics ran the "Just Imagine" series of titles, which featured Stan Lee's re-imaging of DC Superheroes. To which, Wonder Woman was one of these.

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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eid3ipBU4AA4JOU?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eid3irBU4AAoTA8?format=jpg&name=large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eid3ivlVoAAwwUW?format=jpg&name=large)

In this Stan Lee version of Wonder Woman, Wondy is not Diana Prince, but Maria Mendoza. Who wields a divine golden staff (empowered by a Sun God) that turns her into Wonder Woman.

I can't honestly say I was really crazy about this reimaging (or really any of the other "Just Imagine" books), but if there was a silver lining, is that the book does feature Jim Lee on cover art, as well as penciling the interiors as well.

Interesting enough experiment, sure. The novelty of Stan Lee dabbling with DC Superheroes was enough to peak some curiosity. Just not enough to really clamor for more.