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Title: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: Dagenspear on Mon, 18 May 2020, 08:34
For anyone who may or may not watch Batwoman, someone has been cast for a role this season finale and it may continue into the next season.

HIGHLIGHT FOR SPOILER: Warren Christie has been cast as the apparent face of Batwoman Bruce Wayne, but on the character of Tommy Elliot AKA Hush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAvJgGuQSJc


Thoughts?
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 19 May 2020, 23:43
Ruby Rose has left the show.

https://deadline.com/2020/05/ruby-rose-exits-batwoman-dc-the-cw-series-to-recast-iconic-lead-role-season-2-shocker-shakeup-1202938863/
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: thecolorsblend on Tue, 19 May 2020, 23:55
Not a big surprise. She took a lot of crap (for some reason) after accepting the role. I never thought she was all that great (what little I ever saw). Judging by the ratings, the show must've joined the Witness Protection Program or something because nobody's seen it.

With Rose out of the picture, don't be too surprised if the show gets cancelled. A year ago, it might've been easy to replace a series lead. But it ain't a year ago.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: Travesty on Wed, 20 May 2020, 00:17
I think she left because they offered her less money due to the ratings and the virus that originated in China.

Either way, I don't care. The show was terrible.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 20 May 2020, 01:05
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 May  2020, 00:17I think she left because they offered her less money due to the ratings and the virus that originated in China.
Fair enough, I didn't know about the salary bit.

Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 May  2020, 00:17Either way, I don't care. The show was terrible.
When you're right, you're right.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 20 May 2020, 01:23
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 May  2020, 00:17
I think she left because they offered her less money due to the ratings and the virus that originated in China.
Zing.

Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 May  2020, 00:17
Either way, I don't care. The show was terrible.
Double zing.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 20 May 2020, 06:08
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 May  2020, 00:17
I think she left because they offered her less money due to the ratings and the virus that originated in China.

She suffered serious injuries while filming the show, and it nearly left her paralysed. Deadline may speculate that wasn't the reason for her departure, but I'm sure that HAD to have an impact.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 19 May  2020, 23:55
Not a big surprise. She took a lot of crap (for some reason) after accepting the role.

By all accounts, it appears she was targeted by SJWs for "not being gay enough", or whatever pronoun she used that irked her critics. The anti-SJWs took the piss out of the show for its apparent Batman-hating agenda, but I don't think she was a target exactly.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 20 Oct 2021, 13:10
This is quite a scandal: Ruby Rose has condemned WBTV over abusive working conditions. The accusations are pretty disturbing.

https://www.cbr.com/batwoman-ruby-rose-horrifying-set-conditions-slams-wbtv-berlanti/

Yet another PR black eye for the Warner brand.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 20 Oct 2021, 14:08
Holy crap, that sounds like a tasty selection of lawsuits and court orders right there.

Two sides to every story, I know. But if Rose is telling the truth then it's hard to picture how the production side of the story can possibly improve things very much.

The Arrowverse has been on the ropes for a while now anyway. This is probably the biggest black eye they've gotten in a while but it's far from the only one.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: Travesty on Wed, 20 Oct 2021, 19:04
Yikes
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 21 Oct 2021, 08:50
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCKcEkhVEAEcgJ9?format=png&name=small)

After everything that happened with Justice League and Ray Fisher, I don't trust a damn thing that WB says, whether it's film or TV. This statement sounds as credible as Jason Momoa starring in Frosty the Snowman and produced by Geoff Johns and Jon Berg, if you know what I mean.

Let's not forget, there were other incidents of toxic workplace behaviour in their other productions, e.g. Ellen. Even if there was some truth that Rose was difficult to work with, that still doesn't explain the dangerous stunt conditions that got her and other people seriously injured, and so on.

Warner as a brand is damaged right now. They're either antagonising fans for not giving them what they want, and even use petty tactics to ridicule them e.g. Josstice League 4K release trailer, or they're abusing their own talent and gaslighting them. On top of the very bad decisions they've made in showbiz for the last few years.

If the new Discovery merger doesn't clean up the place and get rid of the culprits for giving the whole company a bad name, then there's no hope.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 20 Oct  2021, 14:08
Holy crap, that sounds like a tasty selection of lawsuits and court orders right there.

Two sides to every story, I know. But if Rose is telling the truth then it's hard to picture how the production side of the story can possibly improve things very much.

Maybe there's a reason why they replaced her with Javicia Leslie. Casting a black actress could've been intended as a PR stunt to cover up all the issues going on behind the scenes.

To me, this reads like greenlighting a black Superman project as an attempt to discredit Fisher's statements. Very dirty stuff.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 20 Oct  2021, 14:08
The Arrowverse has been on the ropes for a while now anyway. This is probably the biggest black eye they've gotten in a while but it's far from the only one.

I remember Andrew Kreisberg, one of the Arrowverse producers, got fired for sexual misconduct a few years ago. Plus, I've heard of rumours over toxic environments on the set of the other Berlanti shows i.e. The Flash and Titans, but nobody can say for sure any of this is real unless people who worked on those shows come out publicly.

If you put aside all of the damning allegations by Rose for a moment, it's a telling sign that Jon Cryer liked a tweet by a Supergirl fan calling for everyone to boycott the show, because of frustrations over how the titular character is portrayed.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FCIl0f9XsAEyhZH?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 22 Oct 2021, 15:39
Warner Butchers must have been in damage control, because yesterday they had Variety run a puff piece about how DC FanDome had supposedly bigger views than last year. Strange timing, you'd think they would've shared such news a day after the event. I smell PR spin here.

I noticed another Batwoman actor on Twitter said Rose got fired and he didn't seem to like her very much. Yet, he didn't seem to deny what she said either.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 27 Oct 2021, 14:40
https://web.archive.org/web/20211026062558/https://screenrant.com/warner-bros-failure-culture-toxicity-claims-fisher-rose/

I appreciate how this article covers the history of all the on-set controversies concerning Batwoman and JL, but you there is a limit to how long you can stay neutral. The people in charge of WB, both on film and TV, have demonstrated they are not fit to work in their roles and are terrible businesspeople.

#CleanUpWB
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 27 Oct 2021, 17:07
Yellow Flash did a video about some production assistant calling out Rose for her diva behavior on the set. It sounds to me like someone is trying to return fire at Rose using some lowly PA as their weapon.

I don't buy into irl good guy vs. bad guy narratives. It is totally possible for both sides to be wrong. Maybe Ruby Rose was a spoiled little princess on that set. But even if she was, um, she's still shining a light on some pretty explosive information.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 28 Oct 2021, 21:13
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 27 Oct  2021, 17:07
Maybe Ruby Rose was a spoiled little princess on that set. But even if she was, um, she's still shining a light on some pretty explosive information.

Yeah, I said the same thing a couple of posts ago. I agree with you on that.

Where you and I may disagree is giving the company the benefit of the doubt. WB lost that a long time ago. Keep in mind, it's not just about the accusations made against them, it's how they react to these accusations. They have a history of gaslighting and using dirty PR spins to desperately discredit the accuser. If nobody sues Rose for defamation then that's another red flag.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 14 Jan 2022, 21:45
I haven't watched the show before, but saw new photos of Bridget Reagan as Poison Ivy.

(https://mlpnk72yciwc.i.optimole.com/cqhiHLc.WqA8~2eefa/w:auto/h:auto/q:75/https://bleedingcool.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/BWN308b_0499r.jpg)

Damn. She looks great, and so refreshing to see red hair on a red hair character for a change.
Title: Re: Batwoman: SPOILER
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sat, 15 Jan 2022, 04:26
It's more rare for white villains to get race-swapped. You know why.