From best to worst, list down all the solo Spider-Man movies. I haven't seen Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, but if you have and want to rank it somewhere on the list, go right ahead.
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
- Spider-Man (2002)
- Spider-Man 3 (2007)
- The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
I reckon the second Raimi film showing us Peter Parker's character arc in relinquishing his crime-fighting role and returning to it was the best attempt of the trope by far. But I should mention the second Webb film did have a valid justification why he retired for awhile following Gwen Stacy's death, which was perhaps the best - and certainly emotional - moment in that entire movie.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 20:43
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
- Spider-Man (2002)
- Spider-Man 3 (2007)
- The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
That would be my rankings as well.
Quote from: The Joker on Fri, 28 Dec 2018, 07:16
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 14 Dec 2018, 20:43
That would be my rankings as well.
I guess great minds think alike. ;D
I remember last year my fellow co-workers remarked Tom Holland was the best Spider-Man and shat on Tobey Maguire. I had to resist expressing my distaste, but it wasn't easy. :-[
Slightly different list:
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Spider-Man 3 (2007)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
Spider-Man (2002)
The top four are very close to one another. The final one is unremarkable in many ways. Not amazingly good but not bad at all.
I'm the guy in the room who rather enjoys ASM2.
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Spider-Man 3 (2007)
Spider-Man (2002)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
I actually like all of the films, except Homecoming.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 29 Dec 2018, 21:09I actually like all of the films, except Homecoming.
I didn't even bother watching it. Spider-Man's role in Civil War seemed like try hard fluff. It ultimately contributed nothing major to the film and it felt tacked on because it kind of was.
Why would I want to watch a movie-length version of the same basic concept?
Plus, I really don't understand the boner these movie studios have for creating cool looking superhero outfits for principal photography and then covering them with CGI in the final product. The Spider-Man costume for Civil War and Homecoming is probably the sleekest, coolest outfit he's ever had in live action... but you mostly wouldn't know that if you watch the movies, where it looks like the character is wearing a cartoon somehow.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 29 Dec 2018, 10:28
The final one is unremarkable in many ways. Not amazingly good but not bad at all.
The first Raimi film placed last in your list, eh? Interesting. May I be so bold and guess if you had any issues with Peter indirectly getting Carradine killed?
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 29 Dec 2018, 21:59
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 29 Dec 2018, 21:09I actually like all of the films, except Homecoming.
I didn't even bother watching it. Spider-Man's role in Civil War seemed like try hard fluff. It ultimately contributed nothing major to the film and it felt tacked on because it kind of was.
Why would I want to watch a movie-length version of the same basic concept?
You certainly did yourself a favour skipping Homecoming. I didn't even buy into the hype over Michael Keaton as Vulture. There's nothing new about his portrayal that we hadn't seen in previous Spider-Man film villains. Such an overrated villain.
Holland's Spider-Man gets worse in each movie appearance. So useless and pointless, all he does is undermine Tony Stark as a character. If they wanted to introduce the new Spider-Man in the MCU, Civil War was the WRONG movie to do it. But for some reason, I remember when the news broke out that Sony agreed to integrate the reboot with the MCU, the fanboys were hoping Peter Parker would start from high school. I never understood the appeal, but to the MCU's credit, they seem to be giving the fans what they want, which is asking very little.
I see a lot of fans saying Holland's portrayal is the most accurate on screen to date. Admittedly, my knowledge in Spider-Man comics isn't great, but I still can't help but feel my bullsh*t detector is going off. You know, screw it - here are my rankings of all the live action Spideys thus far:
- Tobey Maguire
- Andrew Garfield
- Nicholas Hammond
- Tom Holland
I'll acknowledge that Raimi and Webb were bringing different influences to the screen. Raimi seems perpetually in love with that Lee/Romita era. That's a good Spider-Man era to be obsessed with so no criticism here.
Webb seemed more fixated on a pseudo-Ultimate version. Quite enjoyable. Certainly I can't knock the casting decisions he made.
Homecoming? Obviously I never saw it. But exactly what is that adapting? Lee/Ditko? Tough to say because the trailers don't really look like anything at all.
Homecoming is just blah and Holland is overrated. You read how he can do his own stunts...as if that's meant to make his performance better. I'll tell you now, it doesn't. This Peter comes off as annoying, dopey and a lackey. We have Peter with Iron Man AI talking to him in his suit, looking to impress Tony Stark to become an Avenger...and what do I hear? How this is close to being a definitive portrayal. DEFINITIVE? Mary Jane is a homeless looking SJW and May is a young woman we're meant to think is attractive. Uncle Ben is completely absent from the mythos. The Elfman, Horner and Zimmer soundtracks were memorable, but this one? Utterly forgettable. The new Spider-Man PS4 game is vastly superior, and was a welcome reminder of why I like the character considering Holland's universe is so lacklustre. It's like they made a movie for millennials, which does nothing for me whatsoever.
Spider-Man (2002)
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
Spider-Man 2 (2004)
Spider-Man 3 (2007)
The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
It's not a popular way to rank them, but it's mine. :)
I finally watched Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse tonight.
It was pretty good. Great, innovative animation and a fine way to weave between a story involving multiverse characters together with what is essentially a Miles Morales origin story. My only little gripe is I have couldn't done without the contemporary rap/hip-hop, but it's a great watch for people of all ages. A much better coming-of-age story than Tom Holland, and the humour is done in much better taste. Well, except for that one post-credit scene [SPOILER]with Spider-Man 2099 arguing with the 1967 animated Spider-Man. That was a stupid cash-in on that overdone pointing meme[/SPOILER].
Here is my revised list of where I rank Into the Spider-Verse.
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
- Spider-Man (2002)
- Spider-Man 3 (2007)
- Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
- The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Spider-Man2
Into the Spiderverse
Homecoming
TASM
Spider-Man
Far From Home
Spider-Man3
TASM2
Overall, I don't hate the Spiderman movies, but none of them have really done anything for me. I used to love reading Spiderman in the 90s, and he's still one of my favorites, but the live action movies haven't really hit it for me. Again, I don't hate them, I'm just not in love with any of them. The only one I really "hate" is TASM2, and even that movie has some stuff I like about it. I have a similar reaction to the live action X-Men movies, although, the quality on those is more sporadic than Spidey. But overall, they're just movies that are there.
I'm updating my list yet again to include Across The Spider-Verse.
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
- Spider-Man (2002)
- Spider-Man 3 (2007)
- Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
- Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
- The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
The only reason both Spider-Verse entries are ranked in the middle of my list is because I hold the Raimi trilogy in high regard. The Spider-Verse series, so far, is a very good Miles Morales journey. I look forward to seeing the next and final film of that trilogy.
I never realized this thread existed until LaughingFish's update.
1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man 3
3. Spider-Man: Into the Spiderverse
4. Spider-Man (2002)
5. Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse
6. Spider-Man Homecoming
7. Amazing Spider-Man
8. Spider-Man No Way Home
9. Amazing Spider-Man 2
Across the Spiderverse probably could've been higher if the filmmakers had bothered to give it an ending.
I could write a whole essay on why I really like Spider-Man 3, but I'll keep it brief. Yes the film has problems and issues that hold it back from being on Spider-Man 2's level. However, I think Peter Parker's story in this film is well done and for me it's one of the best character arcs that I've seen for that character is live action. His arc alone makes me think of it in high regard in comparison to the other Spidey flicks.
I'm in the minority, but I think No Way Home is one of the worst Spider-Man films made so far. The only reason it isn't at the bottom is a testament to how much of a trainwreck Amazing Spider-Man 2 is. I think Peter Parker is an insufferable character in NWH. Everything bad that happens in this film is his fault. The whole story of keeping these insanely dangerous villains around just so he can come up with some bs way of curing them is absurd. Sandman becomes a villain again for no reason, and there's also no reason for why the two Spider-Men come into Holland's universe. The writing for this movie is terrible, and there were certain scenes where the COVID restrictions were very apparent. (EXAMPLE: Norman's lack of interaction with McGuire's Peter when he's injured on the ground.) No Way Home solidified that Holland's take on the character is not for me at all.
Still haven't seen Far From Home and don't plan to.
I betrayed my lack of enthusiasm and gave NWH a go recently. Here is where it ranks.
- Spider-Man 2 (2004)
- Spider-Man (2002)
- Spider-Man 3 (2007)
- Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018)
- Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse (2023)
- The Amazing Spider-Man (2012)
- The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
- Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)
- Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
NWH is nothing more than fan-service. Still, I found it more entertaining than Homecoming, and the returning characters from Raimi and Webb's universes made it bearable. The thing is the plot is just not worth dissecting because there are obvious contrivances going on here; it's just exploiting the multiverse but certain moments in the history of the other two Spider-Verses. Only Electro getting lost into Holland's made some sense here.
I do need to give credit to Tom Holland's acting in the third act though. As soon as Aunt May died, his Peter Parker showed some emotional range and broke away from the usual tiresome antics. Maybe if his previous appearances weren't so obsessed with trying to make everything as quippy as possible, I might've warmed up to his character much better.
I still say NWH is not on par with the Spider-Verse stuff. I find myself much more engaged in Miles Morales than Holland's Peter, and the whole multiverse setting feels much larger and more at stake despite NWH bringing Garfield, Maguire and co back.