Keaton has said he would be up for playing Batman is Burton was on board. With Beetlejuice 2 getting started do you thing there might be some talks (with Burton and Keaton) about ideas?
While I don't think it will ever happen (as the new DCCU is getting started) do you think Burton would do another now?
The ship has long sailed. It will never happen, especially with Affleck now on board for the long haul. The only hope of a Burtonverse continuation lies in an ongoing comic series.
What about a one-off The Dark Knight Returns type film with Batman coming out of some form of retirement in his old age?
The ship has sailed. It would be far too confusing since we've had the Nolan series and now the likely Affleck series ongoing especially since Affleck is playing Batman late in his career. Yes mose of us would understand what is going on but the general movie goer would not.
What I would like to see wouldn't be the (unlikely) return of Burton/Keaton but the return of a Gothic Batman on screen; Burton isn't the only one capable of that. Batman by Guillermo Del Toro, that's more like it (sad that it will never happen).
Like I've said before, one word: animation.
If ever there was a movie where animation would be perfect it's this. Imagine the Burtonesque visuals of an animated Batfilm. And you can use Keats's voice to set it at any point you want or make it totally independent.
I'd love to see it, but I can't imagine that it'll happen. Not in this lifetime. Then again, they made Indiana Jones 4. I guess this seems less likely to happen though. But just imagine Keaton & Burton doing Dark Knight Returns, Frank Miller style! Phew... it'd be an amazingly epic ending to the Burton saga.
I'd prefer a final Burton outing to be like Batman Beyond.
Keaton's Bruce as the old man staying at home. He always was a recluse, and this would show not much changed with the passing of time. It's just the fact he can no longer suit up and fight crime. Just imagine it. A scene similar to Batman Returns. Bruce is sitting in a pitch black room, alone in silence. Alfred is dead. And the bat signal lights up, but he doesn't move. He puts his head down and looks sad. Someone else is doing his job, but he slowly makes his way to the batcave to assist his replacement via a headset.
And even though I like it, TDK Returns has been overdone to be honest.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 26 Apr 2016, 11:45
And even though I like it, TDK Returns has been overdone to be honest.
Interesting thoughts. I like the Batman Beyond take. I mean, we haven't seen Batman Beyond on the big screen though, whereas they bastardized bits of DK in the new Batman vs. Superman. And I think they did an animated flick of DK Returns as well. I'd still like to see a purer Dark Knight Returns. But as far as Burton & Keaton returning... I wouldn't mind them coming up with a brand new story for their 3rd outing.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 26 Apr 2016, 11:45
I'd prefer a final Burton outing to be like Batman Beyond.
Keaton's Bruce as the old man staying at home. He always was a recluse, and this would show not much changed with the passing of time. It's just the fact he can no longer suit up and fight crime. Just imagine it. A scene similar to Batman Returns. Bruce is sitting in a pitch black room, alone in silence. Alfred is dead. And the bat signal lights up, but he doesn't move. He puts his head down and looks sad. Someone else is doing his job, but he slowly makes his way to the batcave to assist his replacement via a headset.
And even though I like it, TDK Returns has been overdone to be honest.
Agreed. I think a Batman Beyond type take would be more fitting for Keaton's Batman anyway, but we've had The Dark Knight Returns animated in two movies (not to mention the Legends of the Dark Knight episode of BTAS) and elements of it were already in The Dark Knight Rises and Batman v Superman.
I feel like you could only maybe adapt the first half of the story with Keaton, along with maybe the Gotham under fire sequence in the final book. His Batman never encountered Two-Face but mayybe you could stretch it and have Billy Dee Williams as Harvey. You could maybe see Keaton take on The Mutants, but after that, his Batman already killed Joker and he never met Superman (and we JUST had a TDKR-inspired Batman vs. Superman fight). I think if Burton came back again, it'd be another story entirely.
That said, if Superman Lives went through and Keaton cameo'd in it, maybe we'd all be speculating on a Keaton vs. Nicolas Cage fight...
Still, I don't think we'll ever see a live action faithful Dark Knight Returns film. An ideal one would've been if they had done a Batman movie series that featured him adopting both Dick Grayson and Jason Todd Robins, encountering Joker, Catwoman, and Two-Face (without any of them dying), teamed up with the Justice League and becoming friends with Superman. Then let the actor age to 55 and do Dark Knight Returns as the comeback movie (ala Stallone in Rocky Balboa).
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Sat, 30 Apr 2016, 22:16
I feel like you could only maybe adapt the first half of the story with Keaton, along with maybe the Gotham under fire sequence in the final book. His Batman never encountered Two-Face but mayybe you could stretch it and have Billy Dee Williams as Harvey. You could maybe see Keaton take on The Mutants, but after that, his Batman already killed Joker and he never met Superman (and we JUST had a TDKR-inspired Batman vs. Superman fight). I think if Burton came back again, it'd be another story entirely.
Good points here. And not a knock on Keaton's Batman - you all know I love him, but he's probably more psychologically based than physically based anyway. A Batman Beyond situation plays up to this more effectively. Also it would be interesting what they'd do with the Robin side of things. If Keaton's Batman ever did share crime fighting responsibilities. In my version, I'd have Batman operating alone for the entire duration of his career. I know Schumacher introduced Robin, but I still can't imagine Keaton in this scenario. He was a control freak. So when Batman's body deteriorates, and he can no longer operate, that's the only reason why he hires a young replacement. And even then, he's telling the guy how it should be done, how he did it, etc. An older Keaton sitting in a B89/BR style batcave would be enough for me honestly. They could have him staring at one of the old B89/BR suits ala Affleck in BvS.
An animated movie, original graphic novel, comic book miniseries or the like are probably the best we can hope for.
I've always wanted to see a Batman Beyond film with Keaton, Burton, and Elfman back. It's more like wishful thinking, but I can dream!
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 26 Apr 2016, 11:45
I'd prefer a final Burton outing to be like Batman Beyond.
Keaton's Bruce as the old man staying at home. He always was a recluse, and this would show not much changed with the passing of time. It's just the fact he can no longer suit up and fight crime. Just imagine it. A scene similar to Batman Returns. Bruce is sitting in a pitch black room, alone in silence. Alfred is dead. And the bat signal lights up, but he doesn't move. He puts his head down and looks sad. Someone else is doing his job, but he slowly makes his way to the batcave to assist his replacement via a headset.
And even though I like it, TDK Returns has been overdone to be honest.
I think with DC/WB basically adopting a "try anything" approach to their films these days I feel that it is not out of the realms of possibility to have a third Tim Burton Batman movie.
Here's my pitch:
Michael Keaton is Batman still, but suffering from poor health/age. During a caper Batman almost bites the dust when a criminal almost gains the upper hand. He is aided by Terry McGinnis who enables him to escape danger. This turns out to be a fortuitous event since Terry is seeking to avenge his father's murder.
Bruce Wayne's struggles continue as he has to flight a take over of Wayne Enterprises by Derrick Powers.
Quote from: Max Eckhardt on Sat, 22 Jun 2019, 16:44
I think with DC/WB basically adopting a "try anything" approach to their films these days I feel that it is not out of the realms of possibility to have a third Tim Burton Batman movie.
Here's my pitch:
Michael Keaton is Batman still, but suffering from poor health/age. During a caper Batman almost bites the dust when a criminal almost gains the upper hand. He is aided by Terry McGinnis who enables him to escape danger. This turns out to be a fortuitous event since Terry is seeking to avenge his father's murder.
Bruce Wayne's struggles continue as he has to flight a take over of Wayne Enterprises by Derrick Powers.
I really do like your idea. But as much as I would love to see Keaton returning to the role one more time, I think the chance came and went about a decade ago. I think he's too old now.
Besides, Warner is an incompetent and terrible movie studio. They don't have any business acumen to make different Batman movies in the same period of time. If they were smart, they could market multiple movies to generate excitement e.g. "before you see an exciting all new adventure of Batman in his prime, here is the final chapter of the Keaton Batman Legend!".
Instead, they think making another movie would compete with another director's vision. If you read into the history of the Justice League: Mortal production, it got screwed over because the garbage studio didn't want another live action Batman to compete with Nolan. ::)
Let's face it, if they're still trying to hide the Justice League movie that did get made as it was originally conceived from the public to this day, what hope is there for a third Keaton Batman movie?