Doug Walker's review of B&R, still funny.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7CDeuN5Zmc
Bat credit card lol.
Quote from: riddler on Fri, 22 Mar 2013, 13:14
Bat credit card lol.
I'll never understand how anyone could come up with that !
Batman & Robin does the "Bright Knight" version badly just like Batman 1989 does the "Dark Knight" badly!
Quote from: batman60s on Mon, 1 Jul 2013, 15:42
Batman & Robin does the "Bright Knight" version badly just like Batman 1989 does the "Dark Knight" badly!
Nope. B&R wasn't trying to be the 60s series. It was just trying to be humorous. Camp and humor are two different things.
And what's wrong with B89 now?
*Head explodes*
Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 1 Jul 2013, 18:50
Quote from: batman60s on Mon, 1 Jul 2013, 15:42
Batman & Robin does the "Bright Knight" version badly just like Batman 1989 does the "Dark Knight" badly!
Nope. B&R wasn't trying to be the 60s series. It was just trying to be humorous. Camp and humor are two different things.
And what's wrong with B89 now?
Nothing is wrong with B89. Just meant that it was the first time a Batman movie was attempted at being dark and compared to Nolans dark knight trilogy it isn't as good in my opinion. And I agree B&R wasn't trying to be the 60s series but in terms of trying to be a more family friendly version of batman like the 60s version is, it's no where near as good.
The video made the comparison by keep putting 60s dialogue or soundtrack over parts so just carried on with the supposed comparison!
("Batman does the DK Batman badly" and "compared to Nolan's it isn't as good" are different things, the second is a valid opinion, the first is just bashing)
To me his review is funny, but it's really not that hard to make fun of some things about a film like this.
Quote from: batman60s on Mon, 1 Jul 2013, 15:42
Nothing is wrong with B89. Just meant that it was the first time a Batman movie was attempted at being dark and compared to Nolans dark knight trilogy it isn't as good in my opinion.
I wonder if this guy is now of those people conveniently complaining how dark BvS is. ::)
In a way, there's a good point about B89 isn't as dark as TDKT. After all, the film does end on a triumphant note where Batman avenges his parents, officially establishes himself as Gotham City's protector and saves everyone from the Joker. Whereas the trilogy, in comparison, is full of hypocritical, deceitful and warped moralising where Batman's inconsistent actions is putting everyone in danger, and ends on an uncertain note where rampant crime must still exist if John Blake takes over the mantle. Yeah, if B89 isn't as "good" as that, then THANK GOD.
Moral of the story: just because something is dark, it doesn't necessarily make it good. By the way, I know that comment is four years old, but I couldn't help myself.
As for Doug Walker's video? The video has expired, but I'm not going to bother trying to find it. I don't need to watch some snarky, trendy, hyperactive commentator talk about how much he hates B&R. I'm comfortable with what I didn't like about it, but I'd be a liar if I didn't admit there were good things about it. I'm not interested in bandwagon hate, thanks.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 03:36
I don't need to watch some snarky, trendy, hyperactive commentator talk about how much he hates B&R. I'm comfortable with what I didn't like about it, but I'd be a liar if I didn't admit there were good things about it. I'm not interested in bandwagon hate, thanks.
Doug Walker is far from a "snarky, trendy, hyperactive commentator", he usually knows well what he's talking about and the B&R review was more like exaggeration for the sake of humor than bandwagon hate. It's supposed to be funny, not hateful. He's also a bit of a Burton fan and even though he once included Batman Returns in a "guilty pleasure" list, he's one of the few YT reviewers I have seen rating B'89 higher than any of the Nolan flicks. Him and James Rolfe.
Quote from: Azrael on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 10:45
Doug Walker is far from a "snarky, trendy, hyperactive commentator", he usually knows well what he's talking about and the B&R review was more like exaggeration for the sake of humor than bandwagon hate. It's supposed to be funny, not hateful. He's also a bit of a Burton fan and even though he once included Batman Returns in a "guilty pleasure" list, he's one of the few YT reviewers I have seen rating B'89 higher than any of the Nolan flicks. Him and James Rolfe.
That's great and all, but I'm just not a huge fan of the guy. His shtick gets on my nerves, regardless if he does like B89.
I do like AVGN, but only for his video game reviews. I don't pay any attention to his film reviews.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 11:31
That's great and all, but I'm just not a huge fan of the guy. His shtick gets on my nerves, regardless if he does like B89.
That's fair, a matter of opinion and taste, I can see how he (or any reviewer with their own brand of jokes) can get on one's nerves, but him being snarky/trendy etc. or doing hateful reviews is just not factual.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 11:31
I do like AVGN, but only for his video game reviews. I don't pay any attention to his film reviews.
The funny thing is that Rolfe is more of a film buff than a gamer (Mike Matei is the games guru) with a pretty big knowledge. Even if he started and became famous by doing funny reviews of awful retro games and that's how I first wathed him, I find his film videos even more enjoyable and informative.
Quote from: Azrael on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 12:53
That's fair, a matter of opinion and taste, I can see how he (or any reviewer with their own brand of jokes) can get on one's nerves, but him being snarky/trendy etc. or doing hateful reviews is just not factual.
You'll need to excuse me. Nowadays, I've become skeptical and cynical towards ALL video reviewers that I tend to lump them together because the majority of them make cheap shots to get attention. And even when I agree with them about something, I find their views to be shallow for most of the time. The viewers don't help matters either because a lot of them parrot the criticisms, whether they're justified or not. You may call me being unreasonable, but I've become fed up with all of these online critics.
EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm strictly talking about film. As somebody who has played their fair share of awful games in the past, I sympathise with Rolfe and the pain he goes through. :-[
Yeah, I understand the sentiment. But, even if you dislike his style, the NC is definitely not one of them.
As for Rolfe... Same. Yes, he was the voice of an entire generation who suffered through crap games with words like "Akklaim", "Ljn" or "Sony Imagesoft", on the box.
Quote from: Azrael on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 12:53
I find his film videos even more enjoyable and informative.
October wouldn't be October without some variation of Monster Madness. Though I do wish he'd go back to using actual movie clips instead of still images.
The Nostalgia Critic gets on my nerves. He's obnoxious, loud, rash, and jumps to quick (lazy) criticisms if gets him a laugh. Film discussion should be honest, pensive, the result of being absorbed by the film experience, not sarcastic with "too cool for school" condescension nor cheap and played for laughs. Unfortunately, film criticism is now saturated with class clowns and casuals who see film as a third tier hobby.
Quote from: GoNerdYourself on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 14:48
The Nostalgia Critic gets on my nerves. He's obnoxious, loud, rash, and jumps to quick (lazy) criticisms if gets him a laugh. Film discussion should be honest, pensive, the result of being absorbed by the film experience, not sarcastic with "too cool for school" condescension nor cheap and played for laughs. Unfortunately, film criticism is now saturated with class clowns and casuals who see film as a third tier hobby.
^This right here.
Well, there's a couple of people in a forum who post opinions as fact about something they don't like. That's (forum) life.
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 12:14
October wouldn't be October without some variation of Monster Madness. Though I do wish he'd go back to using actual movie clips instead of still images.
Me too, but it's obvious why he has to do this.