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With the upcoming release of Batman Vs. Superman : Dawn Of Justice i'd thought i'd make this thread & talk about what could've been if warner bros was smart enough to make a batman vs superman movie back in the day with either  christopher reeve or brandon routh as superman & michael keaton as batman cause let's face it there was alot of opportunities to make this film especially with the reeve & burton/schumacher films making several references to each other.So anyways if they did make a batman vs superman film how do you think it would go between the heroes also what villains would make the heroes team up for the film?

Just fan-made screnshots of the original casts i did in photoshop in batman forever. 







Wadda ya think? 

To come back & do a full re-edit of batman forever similar to how richard donner came back to do superman 2 back in 06?Do think you he'd change the timeline of the movie to match the scripts they had going for it back in 95?Or would he have changed the films visuals such as gotham city & the batmobile to match his first films?& would have asked elfman to back as well to do a new score for the film?What do you guys think??

Yeah i cause i never seen anyone ask this question on here or any other comic book forums that involves with this question so i thought i'd ask & see how many of you actually consider BF the final chapter of burton's batman story arc.

& by different i mean act more like a sequel??Now don't get me wrong i love the burton films but i love batman 1989 the most & i always wished that batman returns acted more like a sequel rather then distance itself from the first film by completely revamping or reimaging gotham city however you want to put it,going darker when theres no need whatsoever & flat out becoming something new when the first film left so much to be brought back in the sequel....& i know some of you of you are gonna disagree with me on this but at least Batman Forever had the curiosity to mention past events that happen in the first films from jokers plans to poison gotham,penguins plans to kill the first born sons,the red triangle gang,& the two catwoman references said by chase on the rooftop with batman & a deleted scene where the riddler destroys the batcave more aka "It's gonna be be a hot time in a cold town tonight" i mean yeah BF had a mix tone thanks to wb & the villians were campy like in the 60's batman villians again thanks to wb,jim carrey,& tommy lee jones pity rivalry towards jim but at least these mentions affected the movies plot & characters from bruces dilemma with his parents death & wanting to quit being batman to live a normal life with chase to bringing back Harvey Dent aka Two-Face from the first film while batman returns hardly did any of that except for that brief vicky val mention by bruce but that didn't add anything to the story so yeah so anyone else feel like this?If so please comment i wanna see your opinions & thoughts about this.

Okay this one i wanted to ask for awhile but never gotten a chance but now that i do why not?Anyways which composer did better for batman?Danny Elfman with his dark themes or Elliot Goldenthal with action themes?Now both are similar but different & in the similarity zone both composers are able to make very exciting action themes when the moment calls for it not only that but able to put the batman theme in the mix as well & in the different zone E.G goes for cartoony in his score such as the riddler's theme & those campy themes where two-face & riddler rob the casino & when riddler destroys the batcave however i won't sit here & lie saying elfman didn't have campy themes in the burton films cause he did but he did it mostly for the penguin in batman returns whenever penguin was shown & in Batman the only campy themes i can recall is the joker's but then again not so much it was mostly a dark score throught out the film but yeah give me your guys opinion on who did a better score for batman.

Now i know the odd's of a BF director's cut being released is very low but if WB does decide to release it what do you hope to see in it?For me i'd hope to see all the deleted scenes & timeline restored to their proper place along with that rumored new cgi gotham that is suppose to look like B89 & hopefully a new silent score by E.G.

Okay as you may or may not know the child's play series is getting a the last & final sequel called "curse of chucky" which takes place after child's play 3 & ignoring bride & seed not only that but after the movies release they're gonna remake the series with brad dourif reprising his role as chucky & leprechaun is getting a remake as well called "leprechaun origins" with a wwe wrestler playing leprechaun.....Now your wondering why you did title this thread "Chucky Vs. Leprechaun" ?? simple the other day me & my cousin were talking about both child's play & the leprechaun movies & were wondering shouldn't they end both series equally with both chucky & leprechaun in one movie together?Sorta like how freddy vs jason ended both franchises by giving these horror icons the ultimate fight & ending their series leaving both fans happy.Anyways what do you think?You think universal & trimark should work together & make Chucky Vs. Leprechaun?Or not please give me your answers.

Hey guys how is it going?Well today i was looking through some old videos in my favorites & came across a superman returns sequel trailer that i faved along time ago & when i started to view it i realized how much hate this guy gets on his videos all because he based them on superman returns & it's a real shame cause he's really good at making these video & presonally i find this one the best

(also does anyone know the names of the movies in this trailer?)in his videos mainly cause bizarro is one of my favorite superman villains & it sucks that he never truly made to the big screen unless you wanna count superman 3 where superman turns evil & fights himself anyways take a look at his videos you might find some you might like.

Yeah what i seen in reveiws & comments on other websites many people have always said that val looks similar to michael keaton in some shots as both batman & bruce wayne kinda like how brandon routh looks christopher reeve in the superman movies so i'm just gonna ask can anyone here spot moments in BF where val looks like keaton?Pictures would be nice too.

Now i know they made two animated movies based on the graphic novel but what if they done a animated series all about the dark knight returns story arc but expanded it more like keep it in the same tone like in the old batman animated series & bring back batman's old villains except for the joker cause he's dead  & also exploring the whereabouts of other batman characters like dick,babs,& everyone else.

Hey guys how is it going?...Boy it has been a long a$$ time since i been on here i mean this cut of mine i'm doing has taken almost my of time & day in my life & every min i get up from sleeping i just go on that laptop of mine with my edit & just go back & forth with it trying to restore the timeline,restoring the deleted scenes,trimming some scenes & trying to find shots in other movies to create some great moments from both the comic book adaptation,script, & novelization to add some more meaning towards the film but then there's that little fear of mine that keeps telling me to stop where i'm at & don't finish so i won't have to face the hate my recut may receive due to my amaturish skills in re-editing but i keep continuing for some reason & i probably shouldn't question it well enough of my wherabouts & presonal stuff going with me & my edit right i have some ideas that i want sure with you guys & want to know what you think.
P.S This sorta of a re-do of my older post here http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=2274.0 except with some changes.

1-New visuals?,Okay first let me just say if my cut is a hit towards fans & get's good ratings i'll come back & re-do it again with some changes with the time i have while doing other edits also these changes i'm planning to learn how to use to after effects so i can tweak some footage in the film just so i can add some continuity to the film as much as possible & to change some colors in gotham city like in these pictures.



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I'm still deciding on the batmobile replacement tho so not much i can say to it other than it's on the maybe list.

2-Re-scoring,As it may not come to anyone's surprise i do plan on using elfman's score through 95%,4% will be goldenthal's score just not the overblown scores just the silent ones & 1% will be no score at all mainly cause there are some shots that can do well without music.Here are some samples.

3-Restoring timeline & recutting,Okay i plan to be professional while doing this cut,I'm not gonna go all out fanboy towards the film no no i'm just gonna trim some scenes that are way too over the top or cringe worthy & try to re-work some scenes so they can be work better without having questionable moments like so.

Plus as said above i'm evening try to re-create some scenes from the comic book adaptation,script, & novelization

4-Deleted scenes & add ons,In this section the deleted scenes from the dvd,trailers,& music videos will be added back into place where they belong not only that but i've also borrowed some clips from batman & robin such as city shots & the suit up sequence for extended shots for my cut & they have also been altered to match the coloring in BF as well oh & the colors in BF will have bluish light to the whole film.

5-What i hope to accomplish,Well this may sound really big but i hope WB will discover my cut on the net & will hire me to re-do my cut again but with a budget & help from professionals so i can bring my vision to life sorta like what they did with Selutron's Superman II fan-edit,That & to be the end of burton's trilogy. 

That's pretty much it guys these are big things i know but BF is a presonal fave & i just want to restore everything back the way it originally was before wb butchered the film & it to make some changes here & there but while retaining joel's style to the film.

Hey guys how is it going again? well i hit a snag while i was doing my edit...i was just trimming a few scenes here & there while trying to find a score suitable to the scenes i was editing then i it don to me that i do really need to re-use the first 2 batman scores from the first films to make this edit?So after thinking about it & remembering the dark knight rises score i decided that i want to use other elfman tracks from other films he's done to give BF somewhat fresh new musical number while incorporating some of the batman themes from first batman scores just give a little nod to first films but the problem is i don't know what other elfman scores would suit batman forever so i was wondering if you guys can give me recommendations on what other elfman scores would suit batman forever.

"You haven't seen the true version of batman forever until now!Batman forever starrting val kilmer returning as the caped cursader with a never-before seen beginning & restored timeline.Director Tim Burton was moved to producer when in production during batman forever after the negative response to his 2nd film batman returns.Now for the first time,Burton comes back to complete his batman trilogy!With over 15 mins of deleted footage reinstered back into the film,Bruce wayne(Val kilmer found in recent footage)faces his demons & explores why he became batman that amplifes the meaning of batman forever.With so many changes including Isolated Score,new score by Danny elfman,lowered cheese factor,scenes clipped,deleted,& reworked!This new version of batman forever is an eye-opening alternative experience for all batman fans!"

- Christopher Sandobaru

Hey guys how is it going?Well you read right my fan-made director or producers cut of batman forever is back on track cause after seeing comments on other sites about my cut people were bummed & disappointed that i quitted not that only but a fan of my work is actually doing full re-edit of batman forever dedicated to me  so after thinking about it for awhile i decided to get back on it cause i put so much hype to some fans that i need to finish & take responsibility  but not only that i plan to make this edit be professional & by professional i mean i'm not deleting anything major instead i'm keeping schumacher version of bf intact just reworked to be the end of trilogy kinda like what the editor of batman forever:dark knight edition did with his version so yeah i hope happy that i'm back on making this edit & if you got any question ask away i'll be happy to answer any question.

Hey guys today i'm gonna post some pics that were suppose to come out during production of my recut when i was still making it but since i canceled.it i figured i just show what was gonna come before i bailed from the project.

Teaser Poster.



Theatrical Posters.







Dvd Covers

the rejected dvd



CGI rednering plans for the batmobile.


note these were made in photoshop to show what ideas i had for the recut.

Yeah what titles says.

Hey everyone how's it going?Okay today i was reading through my batman & robin comic book adaptation which is my favorite version of batman & robin btw not only that i was looking through my comments on here about my post http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=2226.10  & my batman & robin recut comments on youtube & i've thought about it....& i'm probably gonna do a re-edit of batman & robin but before i do here's a list of what to except in my cut & i need your guys opinions.


1:The colors will be tone down slightly just to make gotham & some scenes less colorful.
2:Color correction will be added.
3:Bane will now be the strong & silent meaning he will no longer have any lines just like in the script BUT i am however gonna add his famous line "I will break you batman"from batman arkham asylum when holds batman from behind.
4:Lots of mr.freeze's ice pun will be cut down GREATLY just make a little darker & menacing.
5:Batgirl will be in the film still but her screentime will be cut down slightly.
6:Motorcylce scene will be cut cause we already know that babs does the motorcylce races sooo i don't think we need to see her doing it right?
7:Bat-asses will be cut...still deciding on batgirls though 
8:Lots of stupid one-liners will be cut to a minimum.
9:Deleted scenes will be added mostly from the trailers
10:Fight scenes will be recutted as well

If your wondering ivy isn't listed is because uma's performance is campy & over the top & there's not that much i can cut from her that would improve her by anymeans but it would work since mr.freeze is gonna be darker in my cut so we're gonna need a campy player on the team to even out the darkness okay so anyways my cut is basically gonna follow the timeline from the comic book adaptation as much as possible but there are scenes i'm gonna keep like the sad scenes with freezes wife but I'm still deciding on batman music though i dunno ether to use elfman's music for my cut use goldenthal's themes.So guys give me your thoughts & tell me what you think 

Is it because keaton & burton didn't do this one?If so i kinda find that excuse to be a little poor to distance batman forever from the previous ones just because it took a different approach i mean superman returns was directed by another director & superman was played by another man fans yet it's consider a sequel to the donners films heck wb even made a superman trilogy boxset with only 1,2,& returns as the main ones ignoring 3 & 4 for good reasons but anyways i believe batman forever is the one to end the burton's batman trilogy plus i'll also give my reasons why batman forever only & not connecting batman & robin to it.Keep in mind i may like both burton & schumacher's batman but i'm a burton fan first schumacher 2nd so without further ado i'm gonna my reasons why i believe batman forever ends the burton batman trilogy.

1:Even though tim already established bruce wayne's darkside in his films but he also lacked the bruce wayne persona which is a important key to the batman character & joel took the liberaties & decided to strenghten it while adding more backstory & depth to batman's origin as well.

2:Batman Forever also references the previous films events mostly the 89 film but returns is mention about 2 times through the film like during the flashbacks it shows the waynes being gunned down by jack naiper,Alfred saying bruces parents are avenged in a deleted scene which refers to the night joker died,The convo between dick & bruce about how dick says his parents weren't killed by a maniac & replies "yes they were",A deleted scene which is not on the dvd but was filmed just not added to it with chase on a talk show defending batman about him being a hero from a hater saying he created these monster like penguin & joker he even mentions the plans they had about posioning gotham & killling the first born sons of gotham & even the red triangle circus are mention even the catwoman one by chase 

I know these are only two reasons but they're strongly good reason why batman forever is the end of burton series cause it ties in the burton batman story arc,bruces pain about him blaming himself about his parents death while struggling with the problem of wanting to quit so he can spend the rest of his life with chase & accepting dick as his ward & son also i think why burton don't see that way is because of the neon all over gotham at night,TLJ & Carry's over the top preformances (Even though TLJ was trying out act carrey cause he hated him),And the change of style/tone  towards gotham & story but if you look past all of that & see the true heart of the story then you'd see why batman forever is end the of the trilogy.Anyways i hope you understand where i'm going with this & give me your feedback.











oh yeah yeah i forgot to mention why i consider batman forever to the end of the trilogy & not batman & robin as a series okay for obvious reasons batman & robin was just a toy commercial or cartoon for wb to market & make money from & nothing more while chracters like gough,hingle,& donnell come back to the so-called sequel & reprise their roles the film however looses touch with the previous films by the silliness done by arnold & uma,Poor use of bane & bat-girl,Little to no dark & seriousness other then the alfred dying subplot,And the whole whining robin.Not only that but joel wanted to a darker batman film after the success of batman forever like batman year one which could have been the prequel to burton era or his own batman film or the dark knight returns which could have been the one that could've of ended it all instead of batman forever but since people loved the new direction of batman forever they forced joel to go lighter & sillier in the sequel & boom we ended up with batman & robin which like i said earlier is nothing more than a cartoon/toy commerical that wb could market for more money & nothing else so that's my reason why batman forever is the one.

Not because of someone backlashing me or anything like just my own reasons...well various reasons. 




1:I want my work to be sorta professional that people will remember it like do with other edits that & to be remembered as not just some random guy who edit the film cause he wanted to...no i want to be more then that.

2:I'm limited to so much that i wanna change alot but with little tech and equipment that i have i can't bring my vision to life which i wanna do badly for example during the rise of batmobile in the intro in forever i want to see the original batmobile in that shot cause it would look great coming up but since i don't know much about cgi rendering (which costs a lot of money)i can't do it that & gotham i want reinvent gotham that could look like the previous ones but with more neon mainly cause i gotta stick with the neon no matter how much you edit it but gotham during the day is fine it's what i'd imagine what it look like.

3:Re-scoring the film with elfman's music wasn't a problem cause i got some of action & sad scenes down but with some scenes like dick finding the batcave,the cicrus,two-face & riddler raiding the jewlery store & casino,ect. its hard to find suitable score that can fit those scenes not to mention trying to make the scene match well with the music also it's hard combing two scores together that doesn't sound weird or cut up but in some shots i want no score to play mainly cause it can go well without one but even removing the original audio from batman forever which leaves a watery sound of the original music lowered it can't be done without hearing the watery sound i mean it's kinda gone but you can still hear bits of the score that couldn't be removed plus sound effects is an issue too

4kay stockfootage isn't really a problem with me cause i had to use shots from the onstar batman commericals for the batmobile & batman which worked cause it's new shots but due to the bad quality of it felt way off also it felt like i was cheating using footage from burton films except for flashbacks or nightmare sequences of course but for such scenes like exiting the bat-cave,some shots of batman on top of some buildings from behind his back,& People running when joker's goon starting at them.It did filled in some of the gaps in my cut that worked but as said earlier i'd feel like i'm cheating plus it's hard to up the lighting & colors to match it with the schumacher footage.

5:Exenteding some scenes like two-face escapes i wanna add like footage of immates in arkham when doctor burton goes to see two-face in his cell not in hallway but like to show how much of a hell hole arkham is from the inside,Not only that i need other footage like chase on the talk show explaining how batman helps people & when they mention the events that happen in first films like joker posioning gotham & penguin killing the kids,The alternate ending with batman & robin on top of a building looking at the bat-signal to tie it in with the first two,The scene where riddler kills the gaurd who he failed to knock out.


As you can see i want this cut to be the completed director's or producer's cut with every bit of footage that was cut out back along with a few trims here & there to lower the cheese factor & to make batman forever a worthy sequel so it can complete burton's batman trilogy.I'm sorry for those who had their hopes or wanted to see my cut but as i posted right now you'll understand why i'm quiting on it,It's just too complex even for me to do but i promise one day when they release all the footage & i when learn how to do cgi rendering you bet your ass i'll get back on the this project & finish it hell i'll even send a damn copy of it with the cover art  but right now we'll have to wait until then so i hope you guys can understand. 

Hey guys it's me again & today i wanna talk about the power rangers & possibly other saban heroes for a reboot that they desperatly need.
Okay as you know power rangers were a team of people who were chosen to posses powers that can turn them into super humans when morphed & when morphed they're can summon ancient creatures from along time ago ether to fight solo against a monster or to combine them into a megazord to fight something that humans can't take on by themselves.Not only that but power rangers were ahead of their times in 90's along with other great shows such as pokemon,digimon,batman,superman,spider-man,& all the other great shows that were around in 90's plus they also taught kids good morals,team work,& all that stuff that makes a show great,But sadly the rangers don't get much respect now & days cause whenever someone mentions them they always say they suck,they're for little kids,& awhole lot of others things but they're wrong cause even though power rangers was a kids show they did manage to get away with alot things that were scary & adult oriented themes for example they had blood,death,monsters that should have been in a horror movie,& dark storylines that very well written for a kids show but with all that said people still say what they say & that's where a reboot should take place!I think a reboot would really help revive the power ranger franchise alot but it should be done in sequels not all that happens in one movie cause theres alot to go by & one movie won't be able to cover all that up.


The first movie should go by first season with rita resplusa as the main villain & with the original rangers

The sequel obiviously should be the second season with lord zedd as the villain after he banishes rita into space when she fails to defeat the rangers but before the rangers have an upgrade to the thunder megazords let's have jason & tommy have a fight between lord zedd & after they fail have them upgrade afterwards

Next sequel should be the 3rd season with ninjetties & after the film ends have a cliffhanger that shows rangers about to except the zeo crsytals.

& the other sequels should go by the saban timeline from zeo to wild force also they should be in armor like in the mmpr movie cause spandex just doesn't do it anymore i mean they're fighting monsters from space & should be armored up to kick some major a** not wearing spandex that shows their privates  Oh not only power rangers but possibly beetleborgs cause it be cool see them back along side with the rangers.So guys give me your thoughts about what you think & how you think a power ranger should go 


And just for nostalgia sake