Quote from: johnnygobbs on Tue, 21 Mar 2017, 13:28
These are fantasy films
Yes, fantasy, I think people forget that.
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These are fantasy films
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 8 Mar 2017, 12:01
It could show that Croc as one of the many good guys who no longer stayed that way, as Bruce had alluded to while justifying his plan in destroying Superman to Alfred during BvS.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 4 Mar 2017, 15:40
I thought of another couple of new similarities to compare Batfleck with Burton, Schumacher and Nolan.
- Schumacher's Bat and Batfleck both had visions where they encountered a Man-Bat looking creature. However, the difference is the BF moment was a deleted scene and one where it helped Bruce to recover from his temporary amnesia, whereas Batfleck was suffering from a nightmare that showed the audience his deep-rooted psychological horrors.
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 3 Mar 2017, 23:31Quote from: OutRiddled on Fri, 3 Mar 2017, 21:39
I disagree with that. Keaton was never tempted to retire, he flat out states "This is how it is".
He says that in Batman 89, but in Batman Returns he wanted to retire and settle down with Selina. He unmasks himself right in front of Max Shreck, having previously announced his intent to send Shreck to prison. There was no going back after that. Batman's secret identity was compromised, and Shreck would have told everyone in prison it was Bruce Wayne beneath the cowl. But by that point Bruce didn't care. He just wanted to be with Selina. Forsaking his duel identity was his way of demonstrating his commitment to her and setting an example he hoped she'd follow.
QuoteSimilarly Kilmer's Batman also wanted to quit and settle down with Chase. He tells Dick as much during the scene where he says "So from this day on, Batman is no more [...] Chase is coming to dinner. I'm going to tell her everything." Until then, Bruce had been driven by guilt stemming from repressed memories of his father's journal. But he'd failed to achieve catharsis through his crusade as Batman and had instead become locked in a cycle of violence; each night replacing the face of his parents' killer with a never-ending gallery of substitutes. He believed he could free himself from that cycle, from his repressed memories and the guilt attached to them, through Chase's help. It was only after he confronted those memories that he became liberated from his guilt and the compulsion to fight crime. And from then on out he chose to continue being batman as a matter of his own volition. But at one point, he definitely intended to discard the cowl and settle down with Chase.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 12 Nov 2014, 09:25
- All three versions were tempted to retire by the love of their lives - Selina Kyle, Chase Meridian, and Rachel Dawes.