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Title: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 21 May 2014, 08:29
Quote'Man of Steel 2' News: Cinematographer Larry Fong Shares Photo on Twitter Teasing About 'The Joker'

By Jenalyn Villamarin | May 21, 2014 4:51 PM EST

Cinematographer Larry Fong shared a photo on Twitter of a playing card stuck in concrete. The shared image has ignited the reports on the possible appearance of the villain called The Joker in the upcoming "Man of Steel 2" film.

The Design & Trend report noted that the face of the card was not shown in the shared photo but it appears Larry Fong knew that the fans would guess what his post on his Twitter account @larryfong was all about. Click HERE to see the teaser photo that the "Man of Steel 2" cinematographer shared.

According to the io9 report, there is a possibility that Larry Fong's tweet could bring back the Joker in the "Man of Steel" sequel or indicate the villain character's appearance in a Justice League film. The leaked image further increased the rumours about the Joker's return from the fans speculation of spotting the character's face in the Batmobile that director Zack Snyder previously shared on the social media site.

Although the appearance of the Joker in the upcoming Batman vs. Superman film looks plausible, fans who are still hoping to see actor Jason Momoa in the film will be disappointed with what the "Game of Thrones" star had to say about his involvement. "What does everything tell you? No. Stop asking me. It's so annoying. Sorry, you're not annoying," Jason Momoa told the reporter who asked the 34-year-old actor about the Aquaman or Lobo role in the movie sequel at the Motor City Comic Con held last Sunday, May 18.

The actor added that he thinks the casting reports started to surface when people would ask him questions about the upcoming film. "When people said 'What superhero would you play?' And I'd say Batman and Superman, they'd be awesome together. Then people were like, 'He's in Batman vs. Superman!'" the actor shared.

Momoa further added that the same happened when he admitted that he likes Lobo and then the casting report including Aquaman came out on the Internet. "Not that it's a bad rumor," Jason Momoa stated.

"Man of Steel 2" cast members include Henry Cavill as Superman, Ben Affleck as Batman, Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman, Jesse Eisenberg as villain Lex Luthor, Amy Adams as Lois Lane, Diane Lane as Martha Kent and Jeremy Irons as Alfred Pennyworth. The movie sequel, also called as the Batman vs. Superman film, will be hitting movie theaters on May 6, 2016.

Source: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/553167/20140521/man-steel-2-news-cinematographer-larry-fong.htm#.U3xeL_mSy0Y (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/553167/20140521/man-steel-2-news-cinematographer-larry-fong.htm#.U3xeL_mSy0Y)

Apparently, this is the picture that Fong tweeted.

(https://www.batman-online.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinemablend.com%2Fimages%2Fnews%2F43096%2F_1400615942.jpg&hash=8b498276106b514d2c92da21295f71168db7377f)

And that's not all...

QuoteBut Larry Fong knows you can't just share a playing card without threatening to tumble the entire, delicate house of cards Zack Snyder currently is constructing in Michigan on the set of Batman vs. Superman. So let's talk about this. Could the Joker be in Snyder's Man of Steel 2 (or whatever it ends up being called)? Sure. Warner Bros. and DC Comics appear to be using this movie as the evolution of their on-screen universe, so populating it with iconic figures is necessary. But we already know that Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot) and Cyborg (Ray Fisher) are on board, as is Lex Luthor (Jesse Eisenberg) as the chief villain. Is there room for the Clown Prince? Not really, but he'd make a fantastic end-credits sequence building into Zack Snyder's Justice League movie, wouldn't he?

Now, Larry Fong was somewhat quick to diffuse the situation... but even his word choice was vague. Movies.com editor Erik Davis joked about Fong's tweet, and the cinematographer responded. Look at this back and forth, and make of it what you will:

ErikDavis @ErikDavis
Love how BATMAN VS. SUPES cinematographer @larryfong posts a pic of a card trick & the internet freaks out, thinks Joker is in the movie

Larry Fong @larryfong
Follow
@ErikDavis Finally, someone who can see the obvious. Thank you.

12:27 AM - 21 May 2014

Source: http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Batman-Superman-Set-Pic-Ignites-Speculation-Over-Joker-43096.html (http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Batman-Superman-Set-Pic-Ignites-Speculation-Over-Joker-43096.html)

So what does anyone else think? If this rumour is true, I'd to see the Joker in a post-credits scene only, similar to Thanos in The Avengers that foreshadows upcoming events in Justice League or whatever. I'd like to keep the Man of Steel sequel as Superman-centric as possible to be honest. Although, it could be Fong is just stirring up trouble just for the sake of it. Why? I have no idea.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Gotham Knight on Wed, 21 May 2014, 15:51
Is Joker in MoS2? Well, since everybody else is in this thing (I'm still waiting on 2-D Man's confirmation), I say why not.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Edd Grayson on Wed, 21 May 2014, 16:09
I hope Joker is actually funny in this one. Is that too much to hope for?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Wed, 21 May 2014, 16:23
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Wed, 21 May  2014, 16:09
I hope Joker is actually funny in this one. Is that too much to hope for?  ;D
You didn't find the pencil trick funny Edd?
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Edd Grayson on Wed, 21 May 2014, 16:46
Funny? No. It was a violent and somewhat stupid "trick".
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Wed, 21 May 2014, 17:42
Quote from: Edd Grayson on Wed, 21 May  2014, 16:46
Funny? No. It was a violent and somewhat stupid "trick".
Fair enough.  But the Joker has never been one to treat violence and comedy as mutually exclusive.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Edd Grayson on Wed, 21 May 2014, 17:46
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-1GHMNH24w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-1GHMNH24w)


This is the Joker  :)
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:52
heath's joker did make me giggle some. maybe i'm just more psycho than the rest of you. well, actually that probably isn't even up for debate. i am. but that is beside the point.

if this was a one time only massive movie event then i would say yes you have to have the joker. and how about FINALLY getting harley on the big screen? but since this is clearly supposed to be franchised, idk, i would wait.

i TOTALLY have like a script or story idea for a batman & supes vs joker and lex luthor (and no it doesn't copy world's finest lol). maybe i should submit it? if i randomly disappear and you guys suddenly see that every scene in the movie is having to be reshot you will know they picked up my script and paid me $5 million for it and so i'm too busy carousing with the rich and famous to deal with the little people.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: BatmAngelus on Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:54
I think it's a really dumb rumor, personally.  The director of photography just takes a photo of a playing card in concrete and everyone makes leaps in logic.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May 2014, 18:57
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 21 May  2014, 18:54
I think it's a really dumb rumor, personally.  The director of photography just takes a photo of a playing card in concrete and everyone makes leaps in logic.

if by leaps you mean a baby's very first step that doesn't even really qualify as a step, then i agree.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:02
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May  2014, 18:52

i TOTALLY have like a script or story idea for a batman & supes vs joker and lex luthor (and no it doesn't copy world's finest lol). maybe i should submit it? if i randomly disappear and you guys suddenly see that every scene in the movie is having to be reshot you will know they picked up my script and paid me $5 million for it and so i'm too busy carousing with the rich and famous to deal with the little people.

if i write and post this as a fan fic would you guys read it?
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:10
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May  2014, 19:02
Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May  2014, 18:52

i TOTALLY have like a script or story idea for a batman & supes vs joker and lex luthor (and no it doesn't copy world's finest lol). maybe i should submit it? if i randomly disappear and you guys suddenly see that every scene in the movie is having to be reshot you will know they picked up my script and paid me $5 million for it and so i'm too busy carousing with the rich and famous to deal with the little people.

if i write and post this as a fan fic would you guys read it?
Sure.  If you get paid and become famous will you remember the little people who were the first to identify your promise as a writer?
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Catwoman on Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:15
depends on how drunk i get the night of my book launch party.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 21 May 2014, 19:56
Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 21 May  2014, 18:54
I think it's a really dumb rumor, personally.  The director of photography just takes a photo of a playing card in concrete and everyone makes leaps in logic.

Yup.

Besides, Batman vs Superman is loaded with enough characters as it is. Definitely don't need another The Amazing Spider-Man 2 situation here.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Batman v Superman?
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 30 May 2014, 07:39
Quote
Batman vs. Superman News: Actor Callan Mulvey Tight-Lipped on 'The Joker' Role in Upcoming Film

By Jenalyn Villamarin | May 30, 2014 3:36 PM EST
Current reports on "The Joker" in the "Batman vs. Superman" film links actor Callan Mulvey to the villain character. However, the "300: Rise of an Empire" star remains tight-lipped on the subject whenever asked if he will portray the scary role in the upcoming superhero film.

According to the HNGN report, an unnamed TMZ employee asked Callan Mulvey what the actor can share about the "Batman vs. Superman" film. The 39-year-old actor responded that he cannot talk or say anything about it because he has sworn secrecy.

"You're going to have to wait and see," Mulvey teased in the recent TMZ interview. Last April, film director Zack Snyder has confirmed the addition of Callan Mulvey, Holly Hunter and Tao Okamoto to the cast members of the "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice" film but did not reveal the characters they will be portraying.

The MLive report noted how director Zack Snyder praised Callan Mulvey for his acting skills while they worked in the film titled "300: Rise of an Empire. "He's a fantastic actor and I'm looking forward to having the chance to work with him again," Snyder declared in the Entertainment Weekly report during the cast announcement of the film last April 3.

The reports on Callan Mulvey's "The Joker" role in the "Batman vs. Superman" film started a couple of days after actor Adrien Brody expressed his interest in portraying the villain character. Cinematographer Larry Fong has also teased the fans about "The Joker" when he posted an image on Twitter but the "Batman vs. Superman" production team has given any statement to confirm or deny the appearance of the character in the film. 

In the "Batman vs. Superman: Dawn of Justice" film, the actors reprising their roles from the "Man of Steel" movie in 2013 are Henry Cavill (Superman), Amy Adams (Lois Lane),  Diane Lane (Martha Kent) and Laurence Fishburne (Perry White. The new faces that join the cast are Ben Affleck (Batman), Gal Gadot (Wonder Woman), Jesse Eisenberg (Lex Luthor) and Jeremy Irons (Alfred Pennyworth).

The "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice" is scheduled to be released in movie theaters on May 6, 2016.

Source: http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/554231/20140530/batman-vs-superman-news-callan-mulvey-joker.htm#.U4gvjvmSy0Y (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/554231/20140530/batman-vs-superman-news-callan-mulvey-joker.htm#.U4gvjvmSy0Y)

This guy was in The Winter Soldier, though he was more of an unmemorable character. He could be playing a new Superman villain, one who hasn't been on the big screen before...or he could be the next Joker. If that were true, I wonder how would Joker fit into the plot if he's more than a cameo appearance?
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: riddler on Fri, 30 May 2014, 16:49
If it was truly Batman vs Superman I'd say the villains should be Lex Luthor and the Joker but seeing as how it's half the justice league, I'll say it's still too soon;

With all that's going on, there likely wont be much screentime for the villains so why burn the Joker? As much people rag on Nolan, his villain choice in Batman Begins was smart and set up a new trend for comic films; use a lesser villain for the origin story and save the arch enemy for the sequels.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 3 Jun 2014, 02:29
I think The Joker could and should 'appear' in BvS.

This Batman is apparently meant to be a seasoned pro. So why not show us a fully kitted out batcave loaded with vehicles he has used over the years? And of course, mementos he has accumilated. One of those being Joker related.

I want them to really bring it with this movie. They have to go all out and live up to the exciting potential it offers.

Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: riddler on Tue, 3 Jun 2014, 13:55
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue,  3 Jun  2014, 02:29
I think The Joker could and should 'appear' in BvS.

This Batman is apparently meant to be a seasoned pro. So why not show us a fully kitted out batcave loaded with vehicles he has used over the years? And of course, mementos he has accumilated. One of those being Joker related.

I want them to really bring it with this movie. They have to go all out and live up to the exciting potential it offers.


If you've read the Hush series, there's panels of the batcave showing the West, Keaton, and Bale batmobiles side by side. It would be awesome if they did that here and had all the old batsuits as well. Though I doubt WB would allow such a thing.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: The_Batman_of_1989 on Sun, 10 Aug 2014, 22:00
Hopefully they just leave Joker alone for a while. I love him, but enough already. I don't think he'd even really fit the vibe of this movie. Unless they get Mark Hamill, which would make me c** my pants (& they should get him, he really ought to have his chance to do a live action Joker, & now would be the perfect opportunity for an older Joker with the obvious DKR influence in BvS), I'd rather see another shade of the Batman mythos highlighted for once. Enough of this 'shadowy anti-hero vs. grimy, noir-clown' stuff, let's finally see Bats as a hero - one who actually belongs in JLA alongside Clark & the Boys (& girl.) As many people have pointed out, Ben now does heavily resemble BTAS Bruce, so hopefully they're on the right track.

and Christ, if they're going to bother having Luthor in the pic, give him the focus & screentime he deserves. He's just about as legendary as Joker or any other comic villain.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: riddler on Sun, 10 Aug 2014, 22:30
Quote from: The_Batman_of_1989 on Sun, 10 Aug  2014, 22:00
Hopefully they just leave Joker alone for a while. I love him, but enough already. I don't think he'd even really fit the vibe of this movie. Unless they get Mark Hamill, which would make me c** my pants (& they should get him, he really ought to have his chance to do a live action Joker, & now would be the perfect opportunity for an older Joker with the obvious DKR influence in BvS), I'd rather see another shade of the Batman mythos highlighted for once. Enough of this 'shadowy anti-hero vs. grimy, noir-clown' stuff, let's see Bats as a hero for once - one who actually belongs in JLA alongside Clark & the Boys (& girl.) As many people have pointed out, Ben now does heavily resemble BTAS Bruce, so hopefully they're on the right track.

and Christ, if they're going to bother having Luthor in the pic, give him the focus & screentime he deserves. He's just about as legendary as Joker or any other comic villain.

I'd say Luthor is more vital to the franchise than the Joker would be; Superman doesn't have the rogue gallery Batman does and with Zod burned off, Luthor should be vital to the franchise.
Hammil as the Joker would be too perfect especially since he wouldn't need to carry the film.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: The_Batman_of_1989 on Sun, 10 Aug 2014, 23:51
QuoteI'd say Luthor is more vital to the franchise than the Joker would be; Superman doesn't have the rogue gallery Batman does and with Zod burned off, Luthor should be vital to the franchise.
Hammil as the Joker would be too perfect especially since he wouldn't need to carry the film.

Precisely. Joker would just be superfluous, distracting & a bit out of place in a movie like this, imo.

Although i really really wanna see Mark in it now. hahahah
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: Slash Man on Wed, 24 Sep 2014, 16:01
When there's Batman, we're bound to see Joker eventually, but I'm in the "too much, too soon" crowd. Let the series actually unwind first before we get another iconic character thrown in the mix.
Title: Re: Is Joker in Man of Steel 2?
Post by: johnnygobbs on Thu, 25 Sep 2014, 02:02
Quote from: Slash Man on Wed, 24 Sep  2014, 16:01
When there's Batman, we're bound to see Joker eventually, but I'm in the "too much, too soon" crowd. Let the series actually unwind first before we get another iconic character thrown in the mix.
I don't mind a reference to him, or maybe a single scene at Arkham, but it would be ridiculous to make him a main character in the second film alongside all the other big hitters the film will already be featuring.  The Joker deserves better.