A fan has compiled a video essay of pop culture references and inspirations seen in BvS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edluHmycqfw&t=4s
Some of these comparisons were already found in this site's list of comic references as well.
http://www.batman-online.com/features/2016/4/9/comic-influences-on-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-2016/
I found another video with more examples.
https://vimeo.com/189876347
I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought the scene where Lois cradles Superman's lifeless body was identical to Lamentation of Christ.
These are two great videos. BvS ticks a lot of boxes. 1. It's an entertaining experience. And 2. It still has depth and complexity without, in my opinion, the overboard preaching. It's also my opinion that the ultimate edition is one of the best comic book films ever made. I'm sure to some, that makes me a lover of poor films, but it's a tag I'm happy to cop. The critics were biased beyond belief and simply got it wrong.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 15 Nov 2016, 11:39
These are two great videos. BvS ticks a lot of boxes.
My favourite allusion would have to be at 1:35 in the second video, where Superman rescues Lex from Doomsday's punch as a callback to "no man from the sky ever saved me from daddy's fists and abominations". That was the most satisfying Superman moment I've seen on film in a long time, until we get to see his heroics in the ending.
But whatever, Superman isn't a hero in the DCEU, right?
He is a man who is relentlessly hounded by the media and told to go away. But he perseveres and actually wins. He very nearly dies, but survives and returns better than ever. Sound very familiar to something else that also happened this year...
This wasn't part of the video, but somebody made this connection to emphasise how important Lois Lane is in the DCEU.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKxpR5yVAAAvo32.jpg:large)
Wow, these videos have made me appreciate BvS even further. I usually hate saying this, because it usually sounds smug and contrarian, but I'll make an exception. This film is sorely underrated.
Quote from: GoNerdYourself on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 15:05
Wow, these videos have made me appreciate BvS even further. I usually hate saying this, because it usually sounds smug and contrarian, but I'll make an exception. This film is sorely underrated.
Fans of BvS - especially the ultimate edition, are in on one of the comic book world's greatest secrets. The detail and depth Snyder puts into his films is really remarkable. People who dismiss the film for whatever reason are ignoring the masterpiece that is is.
People had something else in mind for the first film between the two characters, and in my opinion, they weren't willing to give it a fair chance because of it. Superman was killed off too early! They should've been friends and had a World's Finest team-up! The tone was too dark! Batman shouldn't kill! Superman was too serious! Lex can't be like this!
Etc, Etc. It's a bit like Alien 3. If you don't have a problem with Newt or Hicks being killed off, or the idea a facehugger snuck on board Ripley's ship, it's a solid entry into the franchise. When I see BvS getting called a poor film, I can't help but shake my head. I'm eager to see JL, but BvS is a high mountain to climb.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 01:37
Fans of BvS - especially the ultimate edition, are in on one of the comic book world's greatest secrets. The detail and depth Snyder puts into his films is really remarkable. People who dismiss the film for whatever reason are ignoring the masterpiece that is is.
People had something else in mind for the first film between the two characters, and in my opinion, they weren't willing to give it a fair chance because of it. Superman was killed off too early! They should've been friends and had a World's Finest team-up! The tone was too dark! Batman shouldn't kill! Superman was too serious! Lex can't be like this!
I don't necessarily mind that there are people who were genuinely disappointed with the film not lining up to their expectations. After all, I appreciate the film, but even I don't think it's perfect. I think it tackles the deconstructive themes of the characters well, but at the same time, it can make the film to drag a bit.
But my problem with the biggest detractors of this movie, and MOS, is I've noticed the majority who championed the darkness and deconstruction of certain films in the past - regardless if those particular films even stand up to honest scrutiny or not - suddenly see these words as dirty and want 'fun'. How convenient. I don't mean to tar everybody in the same brush, but when I hear buzzwords i.e. 'fun', I often wonder to myself if people are pandering to groupthink. The fact that Batman killing is still an issue when every film except for only ONE do the same thing in the past twenty eight years is a massive red alert that people are getting influenced.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 01:37
It's a bit like Alien 3. If you don't have a problem with Newt or Hicks being killed off, or the idea a facehugger snuck on board Ripley's ship, it's a solid entry into the franchise.
Which is funny, because the Alien 3 audiences had in mind really isn't all that appealing to me. I can't help but picture Lost in Space with xenomorphs. I'm quite fond of the third film, particularly the assembly cut.
The way films are criticized by some is very odd to me. For example, when I hear people speak of Tim Burton's Batman,"Oh, it's so dated." Batman & Robin, "It's so campy! Batman should be dark!" Batman V. Superman, "Why is it so dark?!" It's like people get so caught up in defining what a movie is and making criticisms based off that instead watching a movie honestly and basing their criticisms on what the movie
actually does, which is a billion times more important.
There's also social influence, in which people can actually have their opinions swayed or warped by being around others who subscribe to a certain idea or opinion. People can be very susceptible to this, particularly when there is an assault of hype, buzz, articles, blogs, videos, and aggressive opinion basically telling you how to feel about a movie.
This is unfortunate because some movies do require a second viewing in order to process. We are so used to films being optimistic and when a film, especially a tentpole superhero film, makes you feel
less happy about the world, it can blindside us, leave us on the fence. Then we need to watch it again and see why it does that.
This is why our culture needs to stop relying on hype to tell us how to feel, but instead allow movies to make us feel the way they intend to make us feel.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 22 Nov 2016, 00:22My favourite allusion would have to be at 1:35 in the second video, where Superman rescues Lex from Doomsday's punch as a callback to "no man from the sky ever saved me from daddy's fists and abominations". That was the most satisfying Superman moment I've seen on film in a long time, until we get to see his heroics in the ending.
But whatever, Superman isn't a hero in the DCEU, right?
He can be a hero and not be a good hero. Though I don't get the impressiveness of that moment. Zex/Doomsday isn't Lex's father and Superman isn't God like Lex was whining about, so it doesn't hold real weight at all.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 01:37Fans of BvS - especially the ultimate edition, are in on one of the comic book world's greatest secrets. The detail and depth Snyder puts into his films is really remarkable. People who dismiss the film for whatever reason are ignoring the masterpiece that is is.
Allegory and allusions don't make a movie good. Those can enhance the movie's experience, but proper character construction, well done character building and cohesive storytelling is what makes a movie good.
QuotePeople had something else in mind for the first film between the two characters, and in my opinion, they weren't willing to give it a fair chance because of it. Superman was killed off too early! They should've been friends and had a World's Finest team-up! The tone was too dark! Batman shouldn't kill! Superman was too serious! Lex can't be like this!
The characters not being properly adapted is a legitimate issue to have with a movie that is adapting source material. Hence why complaints that Uncle Ben not being directly talked about in SM: H aren't wrong, to a point. Saying that that single detail makes the movie bad isn't true, but it is a bigger problem the movie has. If you ask an audience to ignore the characters, the relationships and stories they know and understand to accept the new version of them, then you might as well not call the movie or the characters the names of the characters that's being adapted. Though there is a line in adaption to take with certain characters, usually villains, in how they're altered, where you can change many things about them. The difference is whether or not the writing is good and whether or not the changes are dumb and needless. For instance: Smallville pretty aggressively changed a lot of Lex's backstory, took away his specific science genius, gave his comic backstory to his dad, Lionel, a brand new character, added loads of tragedy, sympathy and twisted family dynamics as a character and made him rich from birth. They even changed his reasoning of hatred against Superman in a few ways, shifting from perception of Superman making humanity weak, into a fearfulness of aliens, jealousy of Clark's life and family, a feeling of inferiority from Clark never trusting him and failure of Clark to save him from his own darkness, due to Lex wrongly putting Clark up on pedestal, with Lex always falsely thinking that Clark's acceptance of him would make him better and wouldn't Clark couldn't possibly live up to that, Lex feeling betrayed. The complicated character dynamics of the whole situation were all very different from any Lex I've seen. So much hugely different from Lex's comic character. But you know what? People loved it. Micheal Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor is generally thought of as the best adaption of Lex Luthor there is. That's because the writing for him and for his story was so good. People will accept changes generally if the material is good. The problem is that no matter how many clever allegories or philosophizing you have a character or a movie talk about, and Smallville had Lex and Lionel do this all the time, if the character is bad, and/or is driven by theme instead of character, the characters will be generally looked on as not very good and thus the bigger audience will be annoyed, bored, uncaring or angry about the characters, and for those that know of comic lore, the changes to the character, because the changes aren't good.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 11:11But my problem with the biggest detractors of this movie, and MOS, is I've noticed the majority who championed the darkness and deconstruction of certain films in the past - regardless if those particular films even stand up to honest scrutiny or not - suddenly see these words as dirty and want 'fun'. How convenient. I don't mean to tar everybody in the same brush, but when I hear buzzwords i.e. 'fun', I often wonder to myself if people are pandering to groupthink. The fact that Batman killing is still an issue when every film except for only ONE do the same thing in the past twenty eight years is a massive red alert that people are getting influenced.
A movie can be dark, deconstructive and fun. Batman doesn't kill Batman Forever. And people can easily have a problem with Batman killing, even though he's killed in other versions, when that killing is frivolous, needless, is never addressed and when he tries to murder Superman by stabbing him in the face with kryptonite spear just because he exists. Certain People may accept a Batman who kills and not like it or accept it for adaptive purposes (like B89/BR) or simply appreciate thr movie tries to have a Batman who doesn't want to kill and may or may not have a rule against it but will in defense of others (TDKT, because Batman's never faced with having to kill Joker to save lives in TDK), but they won't accept a Batman who is a wholesale villain. This goes back to accepting changes when they're good or at least doesn't massively go against the character. BvS doesn't do that. Have a very great day!
God bless you all!
Quote from: Dagenspear on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 20:51Though I don't get the impressiveness of that moment. Zex/Doomsday isn't Lex's father and Superman isn't God like Lex was whining about, so it doesn't hold real weight at all.
The entire idea of metaphor is lost on you, isn't it?
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 21:39Quote from: Dagenspear on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 20:51Though I don't get the impressiveness of that moment. Zex/Doomsday isn't Lex's father and Superman isn't God like Lex was whining about, so it doesn't hold real weight at all.
The entire idea of metaphor is lost on you, isn't it?
I understand the symbolism, but the meaning of it doesn't hold much weight for me I'm sorry. If I'm supposed to connect that to the daddy's fists line, it doesn't have any meaning for me because there isn't a metaphor at play here. The characters and movie are literally trying to state that Clark is a god or is God. It's just a completely false statement by all accounts. Not to mention that son hitting father isn't applicable to father hitting son at all, from a metaphorical standpoint. Same with trying to compare Superman to God. There's nothing there. God is an all powerful being who created all life and the universe. Superman is an alien. Maybe a comparison between mythical greek gods, but THE actual REAL God? No way.
Quote from: Dagenspear on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 22:45I understand the symbolism, but the meaning of it doesn't hold much weight for me I'm sorry. If I'm supposed to connect that to the daddy's fists line, it doesn't have any meaning for me because there isn't a metaphor at play here. The characters and movie are literally trying to state that Clark is a god or is God. It's just a completely false statement by all accounts. Not to mention that son hitting father isn't applicable to father hitting son at all, from a metaphorical standpoint. Same with trying to compare Superman to God. There's nothing there. God is an all powerful being who created all life and the universe. Superman is an alien. Maybe a comparison between mythical greek gods, but THE actual REAL God? No way.
See, you claim to get the point. Then literally everything you say thereafter proves you missed the point. Your post above is the latest example but by no means is it the only one.
Lex complained earlier that nobody saved him from fists. Later, Superman saved him from a fist.
I mean, this isn't rocket science, bro. If I was trying to break down Kierkegaard or particle physics or something, yeah, I could understand not getting it. But Superman saving Lex from a fist isn't exactly Kierkegaard or particle physics. It's pretty straight forward, actually. Superman saved Lex from a fist. Some things really are that simple.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 23:10See, you claim to get the point. Then literally everything you say thereafter proves you missed the point. Your post above is the latest example but by no means is it the only one.
Lex complained earlier that nobody saved him from fists. Later, Superman saved him from a fist.
I mean, this isn't rocket science, bro. If I was trying to break down Kierkegaard or particle physics or something, yeah, I could understand not getting it. But Superman saving Lex from a fist isn't exactly Kierkegaard or particle physics. It's pretty straight forward, actually. Superman saved Lex from a fist. Some things really are that simple.
The idea I get, but the meaning doesn't hold much weight to me. He said he wasn't saved from his daddy's fists. Doomsday isn't his dad. I don't understand the comparison. There's no need to be snippy at me about it. I'm not belittling you about your understanding of the situation.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 23:10
Lex complained earlier that nobody saved him from fists. Later, Superman saved him from a fist.
Not to interrupt your conversation, but the moment where Superman saves Lex from Doomsday shows how virtuous he really is. If he really was this completely tainted, vengeful shell of a man that people think he is, he could've easily let Lex feel the brunt Doomsday's punch, and let him die. Instead, he performs a merciful act and battles Doomsday to protect mankind. Starting with the rescue of an ungrateful man who has been orchestrating his demise.
Sadly, this gets completely lost in translation by those who deride Superman for being, as one moron on Twitter described, a 'sulking asshole'.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 4 Oct 2017, 10:43Not to interrupt your conversation, but the moment where Superman saves Lex from Doomsday shows how virtuous he really is. If he really was this completely tainted, vengeful shell of a man that people think he is, he could've easily let Lex feel the brunt Doomsday's punch, and let him die. Instead, he performs a merciful act and battles Doomsday to protect mankind. Starting with the rescue of an ungrateful man who has been orchestrating his demise.
Sadly, this gets completely lost in translation by those who deride Superman for being, as one moron on Twitter described, a 'sulking asshole'.
Now this works. However he is still a vengeful shell of a man and a sulking cuss word. But he's also virtuous in this moment and that holds weight for me, where the daddy's fists thing doesn't.
Quote from: Dagenspear on Wed, 4 Oct 2017, 02:50The idea I get, but the meaning doesn't hold much weight to me. He said he wasn't saved from his daddy's fists. Doomsday isn't his dad. I don't understand the comparison. There's no need to be snippy at me about it. I'm not belittling you about your understanding of the situation.
Here we are with you once again. "If two things aren't exactly the same that must mean they're totally different".
Believe what you want.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 22:37Here we are with you once again. "If two things aren't exactly the same that must mean they're totally different".
Believe what you want.
Not totally different. Just lacking the weight that the situation implies. Superman isn't protecting child from his abusive dad. He's protecting a madman from his monster. It holds a different weight and meaning than daddy's fists that @The Laughing Fish pointed out. Have a very great day!
God bless you all!
Quote from: Dagenspear on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 04:33Not totally different. Just lacking the weight that the situation implies. Superman isn't protecting child from his abusive dad. He's protecting a madman from his monster.
Translation- "If they're not the exact same, they're totally different!!"
Metaphor. Symbolism. These are lost on you.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 06:17Translation- "If they're not the exact same, they're totally different!!"
Metaphor. Symbolism. These are lost on you.
If you're going to ignore my words, please don't reply to me. For whatever reason you choose to misunderstand the difference between the metaphor and symbolism and the weight and meaning behind them.
I don't know where else to put this, so I thought this was the best spot. This guy is doing a 3 part breakdown of BvS, and why he thinks it's misunderstood. Loads of good points. And some things about TDKReturns that I never noticed. But anyways, I think you guys would enjoy this. Part 2&3 are coming soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLqIh9jOf4&t=10s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLqIh9jOf4&t=10s)
Quote from: Travesty on Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 19:21
I don't know where else to put this, so I thought this was the best spot. This guy is doing a 3 part breakdown of BvS, and why he thinks it's misunderstood. Loads of good points. And some things about TDKReturns that I never noticed. But anyways, I think you guys would enjoy this. Part 2&3 are coming soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLqIh9jOf4&t=10s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GLqIh9jOf4&t=10s)
Thanks for sharing the vid, Trav, that's a great video! Never noticed that Batman's inner thoughts were coloured in grey in Dark Knight Returns, that signals his murky sense of morality. It's certainly a truly thought-provoking piece of analysis and how Snyder captures that mood for Batman in BvS.
Has anybody noticed that Frank Miller's take on Batman is becoming less and less loved by fans nowadays? Every time I go online, the reputation for the first DKR story is not as positive as it used to be. Maybe it's a result of the sequels taken the appeal out of it? Nonetheless, I find it a coincidence that the harder, cynical Batman is no longer admired in the same way some people had a problem with Batman's misguided anger in BvS.
Here is another video drawing similarities between BvS and DC's animated movies and video games.
https://youtu.be/FfnA1zy2iWA
Nice vid. I love that he used the score from Elizabeth: The Golden Age.
He could have added footage from the Warehouse fight with a fight scene from an Arkham game.
Here's the second video of the 3 part analysis on BvS that Travesty talked about before, this time talking about the tone for the first two Snyder films, the media's relationship with Superman, and the fight between Bats and Supes which leads to the Martha moment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz2IcD28FHg&t=1525s
I must admit, I'm still not too convinced by the rationale behind the choice of using Martha's name in the dialogue, even though I never agreed with the stupid consensus that people thought both men stopped fighting because of their mothers having the same name. But just when I thought that misunderstanding is bad, apparently some people actually thought the media debating Superman had no point to the story at all.
Jesus Christ, I don't think BvS is a masterpiece, but I can't believe how a lot of simple things went over people's heads. But I guess this is what happens when you live in the age of Internet hype, both positive and negative.
Here is the third and final part of that BvS analysis, addressing criticisms over Jesse Eisenberg's Lex Luthor and his plan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIMrnPzjiBQ
By the way, while the video focuses on the subject about the explorers finding the Kryptonite at the Indian Ocean, does anybody else think that the remains of the destroyed World Engine resembles a bit like a human skull? It's a coincidence, of course, but the scene itself still foreshadows Superman's demise. Here's an interesting fact, according to IMDB, the actor who played the explorer who picked up the Kryptonite was credited for playing the role of Emmet Vale, who is Metallo's creator in the comics. https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1079863/
I'm surprised I missed out on Alfred making a clear Phantasm reference while discussing the White Portuguese with Bruce.
Part 1&3 were really strong. Part 2 was ok, but much weaker. Overall, a really good analysis. I haven't seen BvS in awhile, and I kinda want to watch it again.
Here is another video by two fans addressing popular criticisms against Zack Snyder's treatment of the characters in both MOS and BvS, similar to the Twin Perfect videos. It includes screenshots of storyboard artist and Dark Knight Returns animated director Jay Oliva defending the creative choices to an ignorant 'fan' on Twitter. It's a pretty long video, but worthwhile to take the time to watch.
https://youtu.be/3uZ9I4rt1_M
Quote from: Travesty on Sun, 6 May 2018, 17:02
Part 1&3 were really strong. Part 2 was ok, but much weaker.
The biggest revelation in Part 3 for me was Eisenberg WAS supposed to play Jimmy Olsen, but it was decided he'd play Luthor because he could deliver lines in such a callous manner. Of course, fans have often complained that we never had Lex as the corrupt businessman type in live action, but that doesn't make the idea of depicting him as a tech-savvy personality in the vein of Zuckerberg, Musk or Jobs any less valid.
A couple of things I've noticed in the scene where Superman arrives at the Capitol building in front of an angry mob.
(https://i.imgur.com/Kb0U6Es.png)
The two hateful signs in the bottom right corner resembles the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, who are notorious for displaying hostile messages in black bold font with saturated colours. Like in the example above, most of their obscene slogans say "God hates [insert identity group here]".
There's also the pun on another discriminating banner saying "Superman = Illegal Alien". Which is quite fitting as Superman is a symbol of the immigrant story. One thing that MOS doesn't get enough credit for is alluding to the struggles a person may face when dealing with identity between their place of birth and their heritage, and the tension the immigrant feels when they're of the subject for discrimination is explored in BvS.
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 9 Jul 2018, 12:28
A couple of things I've noticed in the scene where Superman arrives at the Capitol building in front of an angry mob.
(https://i.imgur.com/Kb0U6Es.png)
The two hateful signs in the bottom right corner resembles the actions of the Westboro Baptist Church, who are notorious for displaying hostile messages in black bold font with saturated colours. Like in the example above, most of their obscene slogans say "God hates [insert identity group here]".
There's also the pun on another discriminating banner saying "Superman = Illegal Alien". Which is quite fitting as Superman is a symbol of the immigrant story. One thing that MOS doesn't get enough credit for is alluding to the struggles a person may face when dealing with identity between their place of birth and their heritage, and the tension the immigrant feels when they're of the subject for discrimination is explored in BvS.
I find this analogy flawed. I can only think of one type of immigrant who are famous for bringing destruction with them upon their arrival. I guess the major difference is they do it on purpose while the destruction involving Superman happened in spite of his best efforts.
Still, the bit with the mob is a little amusing. There's a reaction shot of Lois surrounded by the crowd. One of them is a very SJW-looking protester. (A) Nobody would feel the least bit threatened by him and (B) I don't think SJW's would necessarily oppose living side-by-side with an alien.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 23:57
I guess the major difference is they do it on purpose while the destruction involving Superman happened in spite of his best efforts.
Yep.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 23:57
Still, the bit with the mob is a little amusing. There's a reaction shot of Lois surrounded by the crowd. One of them is a very SJW-looking protester. (A) Nobody would feel the least bit threatened by him and (B) I don't think SJW's would necessarily oppose living side-by-side with an alien.
Sure, SJWs are complete dropkicks and deserved to be laughed. But in this context, anybody can be an angry protestor. You can be as scrawny as that guy in the glasses, and you can still be as dangerous just by being part of an angry mob. Mix that together with a strong sense of paranoia and fear, that can potentially lead to disastrous consequences.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 23:57
I find this analogy flawed.
Completely agree.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 23:57
I can only think of one type of immigrant who are famous for bringing destruction with them upon their arrival. I guess the major difference is they do it on purpose while the destruction involving Superman happened in spite of his best efforts.
Again, completely agree.
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 14 Jul 2018, 23:57
Still, the bit with the mob is a little amusing. There's a reaction shot of Lois surrounded by the crowd. One of them is a very SJW-looking protester. (A) Nobody would feel the least bit threatened by him and (B) I don't think SJW's would necessarily oppose living side-by-side with an alien.
These types of hecklers are a joke. It's not protesting. It's about insurgency. There's a difference. These sorts are harassing, agitating and looking for trouble. Rip off their masks, tear the clubs away from their hands and knock them the f*** out.
I found another video from a fan analysing the use of drones in MOS and BvS, specifically how they're introduced for surveillance at the end of first movie and then they're compared to the CIA and military's use of drone strikes during the extended Nairomi scene in the Ultimate Edition. The video specifically points out the parallels between the CIA's actions with that of the US government's drone program during the War on Terror. It might be the narrator projecting his own critique of the government's actions on foreign soil, but it's worthwhile analysis to listen to. Check it out on 3:28.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7h54AyiAybs
Following up to the last video, here's another one comparing the CIA, Batman, and Lex's motives to the Gordian Knot - a legend involving Alexander the Great.
https://youtu.be/zAQ5gIIgsnE
Has there been any more recent videos going over the DCEU that anyone would recommend?
This thread gives access to some good ones. Which is great, and appreciated. Especially since finding one that's positive and/or objective takes some digging since more than 90% found on youtube are nitpicky & overtly negative (or seems that way).
You can check out the JLU Podcast with Samuel Otten online, he does scene breakdowns analysis of every DCEU film thus far. You can even type his name on YouTube to look at his content.
I found this video essay breaking down the Batman-Superman fight scene, by comparing how each moment is adapted from The Dark Knight Returns - both the comic and animated versions. It also includes pinpointing several moments that pay homage to past Batman and Superman movies and various comics too.
https://vimeo.com/341699319
Good video. But my only criticism is instead of comparing the Wayne murders flashback with Golden Age and Year One comic examples, they should've used The Dark Knight Returns again, because the BvS version is a lot more identical to that comic e.g. Thomas Wayne rolling his fist as Bruce looks on before getting shot, Martha's pearl necklace wrapping around the shooter before she gets shot, and the bullet casing flying out of the firing gun. Frankly, the same thing goes with the BB example of Bruce falling down in the hole, instead of that, I would've shown the panel from The Dark Knight Returns too, because it's the source where both BB and BvS got the idea from.
Here is a video analysing how the Bagua symbol is referenced throughout BvS.
https://youtu.be/SQDDdvSKX2E
Whether the filmmakers intended this or not, its fascinating to see how fans read a lot into this movie.
So I just found this vid, and thought it was a really good breakdown on Snyder and BvS. It's almost an hour, but I think you'll all like it. It starts off from someone who hated BvS and Snyder, and he come around to liking it and appreciating Snyder. Check it out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IslGylvkjPE
Here's another interesting video that's been recently posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eZkgte8Tx4