Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Warner Media has entered the streaming market by introducing HBO Max, which is scheduled to debut in the US this May. Furthermore, they have announced that the streaming platform will have a new film label called Warner Max, and from what I gather, it's supposed to be producing streaming-only films equivalent to Netflix-only productions. What caught some Snyder cut fans' attention is the following paragraph from the media release:

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Warner Bros and New Line Cinema will continue to create mid-budget fare for traditional theatrical distribution, while Warner Max will create a new pipeline for filmmakers looking to make a particular type of film or connect with a specific audience that would be best reached in the streaming environment.

https://www.ibc.org/create-and-produce/warner-bros-and-hbo-max-launch-feature-production-lab/5437.article

Of course, it doesn't mean the cut would get released under the Warner Max label. But if we were to read into the idea that anything shown on HBO Max will cater to a "specific audience" then I see no reason why the 214 minute long film should be withheld from the public any longer.

With that said, I don't expect Warner Butchers will walk the talk. Besides, after having to think about it further, I reckon the Snyder cut debuting on HBO Max in the U.S. would still be a backwards decision because the streaming service will not debut in the overseas market until next year. That would mean millions of fans around the world would be missing out. Why undermine momentum and potential profit by excluding the global fanbase who've been wanting to see this cut for years?

I say just f***ing distribute the film on home video, and be done with it. But given what a pathetic, corrupt excuse of a corporation have been recently they can't even bring themselves to do that. They'd rather stay silent instead of addressing JL fans who've contacted them via letters, social media to plead them to get the damn film out.

Disgusting company.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 11:25 #1 Last Edit: Mon, 17 Feb 2020, 13:15 by The Laughing Fish
On a lot less agitated note, I found this nice fan event on Vero, where fans are submitting their posters and fan art for JL. This is endorsed by Snyder himself, who promises to award film props and memorabilia to give away to the lucky fan with the poster that "captures the spirit of the film". It's a cool initiative, and definitely builds up demand for the film.

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/CKP-3wjwrqqft5r9SwPK55KL
https://vero.co/zsjlfanposters
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I've seen some fans reading into these cryptic posts on a JL advertisement on the official HBO Max Instagram page.







I wouldn't think much of it though. If they haven't announced "ZACK SNYDER'S JUSTICE LEAGUE"  as distinctively as possible, then it goes to show they'll be showing that Whedon cut. Which will be a slap in the face to everybody who campaigned for the real film to come out. But since we're dealing with anything involved with Warner Butchers, it's hardly a surprise.

Meanwhile, now that the event for the Snyder cut fan posters has closed, here are some of my favourites.





















Great efforts by the fans.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

That fan art competition has drawn to close, and Snyder took the time during his birthday to announce this art work as the winner. It was designed by a fan who goes by the name MightyPegasus on Twitter.



Quote from: Zack Snyder
Thank you all again for all the amazing submissions and also the Birthday wishes it is all much appreciated...As for the poster winner well for me this is it can't wait to hang it on the wall in my office

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/xJ-L4mhvGFCkqGHL2K395nCW

Well deserved, I liked how he incorporated all the characters from the first four DCEU films accompanied by Darkseid's figure.

A day before announcing the winner of the fan art competition, Snyder revealed what the prize would be. And it's getting people speculating heavily.





Quote from: Zack Snyder
So this is the Prize...it's the Slate we used everyday on the set of JL and on the back something more

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/BkS-fWRqrcz1BzW2nWGkcKzZ

For more speculation, read here: https://www.newsweek.com/zack-snyders-justice-league-reveal-hints-new-scenes-superman-batman-martian-manhunter-1489913
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon,  2 Mar  2020, 12:16
That fan art competition has drawn to close, and Snyder took the time during his birthday to announce this art work as the winner. It was designed by a fan who goes by the name MightyPegasus on Twitter.



Quote from: Zack Snyder
Thank you all again for all the amazing submissions and also the Birthday wishes it is all much appreciated...As for the poster winner well for me this is it can't wait to hang it on the wall in my office

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/xJ-L4mhvGFCkqGHL2K395nCW

Well deserved, I liked how he incorporated all the characters from the first four DCEU films accompanied by Darkseid's figure.

A day before announcing the winner of the fan art competition, Snyder revealed what the prize would be. And it's getting people speculating heavily.





Quote from: Zack Snyder
So this is the Prize...it's the Slate we used everyday on the set of JL and on the back something more

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/BkS-fWRqrcz1BzW2nWGkcKzZ

For more speculation, read here: https://www.newsweek.com/zack-snyders-justice-league-reveal-hints-new-scenes-superman-batman-martian-manhunter-1489913
Considering the coronavirus craziness we're all living under right now, I can't imagine that the Snyder cut is coming any time soon.

Prove me wrong, WB. Please!

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 17 Mar  2020, 19:33
Considering the coronavirus craziness we're all living under right now, I can't imagine that the Snyder cut is coming any time soon.

Prove me wrong, WB. Please!

Well according to TDK, you shouldn't bother to have any hope. "AnYoNe wHo ThInKs SnYdEr CuT wIlL cOmE sOoN is DeLuSiOnAl, wB iS gOiNg ToWaRdS aNoThEr DiReCtIoN". Right, let's just be good little mindless consumers and accept anything Warner Butchers put out, while dragging directors through the mud by hacking up their work. How pitiful, even more so in dismissing the cast and crew supporting for the film's release. Some fan.

Anyway, putting that little outburst aside, I saw this screenshot of the official AT&T Twitter account posting a winking Rihanna GIF at a couple of fans demanding the release of the film a few weeks ago. The tweet itself has since been deleted.



Either this is mocking, or it's teasing the support for the film for its inevitable release. If it's the latter then it shows AT&T is starting to stand by its DCEU content, by advertising BvS as "a classic of all classics" in its latest AT&T TV commercial. Positive advertising of BvS wouldn't have happened a year or so ago.

https://twitter.com/boomborks/status/1241307313488539648

In case anyone else doesn't remember, AT&T is the parent company of Warner.

None of this will matter if the film doesn't come out though, Coronavirus or not. Considering that lots of films such as The Way Back and Bloodshot are heading to digital VOD prematurely because of the current pandemic, I reckon it would make perfect sense to release the real JL right now.

But of course, it appears those in charge of Warner and above are completely braindead. If not, morally bankrupt.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Fans logged on Twitter to flood the official HBO Max Twitter page demanding the film to be screened on the new streaming service.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2494857/zack-snyders-fans-flood-hbo-maxs-release-date-tweet-with-calls-for-the-snyder-cut

According to a user called Alessandro, who co-organised the hashtag to trend that day, the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut hashtag trended with over 50,000 tweets. Last week, a new hashtag #ZackSnydersJusticeLeague reached over 60,000 on Twitter.



https://twitter.com/raveryn/status/1252964623663403008

Meanwhile, HBO Max aren't shying away from promoting JL characters.

Such as this social media post:



https://twitter.com/hbomax/status/1252990550090944512

And apparently they have this large billboard advertisement, featuring DCEU's Batman and Superman.



Of course, none of this means Snyder's JL will be shown on HBO Max. In fact, I don't believe it will, simply because HBO Max won't be available internationally till next year, as I already mentioned. If the powers that be want to capitalise on consumer demand, I highly doubt they'd want to stream the film to another competitor like Netflix.

Nonetheless, Snyder himself has given hope that the film will see the light of day, as he liked a couple of these posts on Vero.



https://vero.co/omerkamal/BRt-dsJXhqg6hGzPkGXSJrkr



https://vero.co/willrowlands/DP-QCp2bb4nmXMDZrHt9BQp6

While we're on the subject of streaming, Warner's parent company AT&T appears to prioritise HBO Max more than ever thanks to this Godforsaken pandemic. But then again, even without the Coronavirus, streaming seemed to have posed a threat to the cinema market for some time, so maybe this is the nature of business taking course.

https://deadline.com/2020/04/warnermedia-rethinking-theatrical-model-john-stankey-not-expecting-snap-back-recovery-by-exhibitors-1202914751/
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Something we should be aware of is that the Snyder cut definitely exists but it most likely isn't finished yet. It stands to reason that a lot of post-production still needs to be done. And it's completely reasonable that Snyder might want some reshoots.

All of that is to say that there could be a pretty hefty price tag with completing the film. And obviously, time is of the essence. Technically, the cast has probably already aged out. There will already be shaky continuity with the existing footage. But the time, logistics and money involved in this are major factors.

Thus, if anybody thinks this is a simple matter of streaming the Snyder cut, disappointment will be their only companion. The film still needs a lot of work, I would guess.

I do believe there is some work needed to polish the film as a 100% completed product, but I'm not so sure if there is a lot to do.

A year or so ago, Snyder was adamant that the cut was done, but it was up to Warner to release it.



Since then, and as you already know, he has shared lots of screenshots of his film on Vero, indicating that the film is more complete than people think. Except for the Martian Manhunter reveal at the end of a scene with Lois and Martha.



Unsurprisingly, he says there is some work he'd like to do to get it completed to his liking.



There's a lot of unsubstantiated gossip of Snyder had finished his compromised cut and now he wants to edit it to resemble his original vision of JL Part 1. We can take that with a grain of salt, but any additional filming would seem further impossible now that Hollywood has gone into lockdown like everywhere else, thanks to the pandemic.

Besides, unless the new WarnerMax production company is looking to revive Snyder's original five part story arc as exclusive content for HBO Max, I don't think filming the Martian Manhunter sequence is worth it.

Back on topic: it appears the official HBO Max PR Twitter page liked a couple of tweets reporting the movement's demand for the cut.



https://mobile.twitter.com/nexuspong/status/1253435520610267138

I had a look at the likes section on HBO Max PR's Twitter page, and yes, the screenshot is legitimate. Time will tell if they were trolling, or teasing the film's eventual release.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

If we're lead to believe this guy, Netflix offered to buy the streaming rights for the Snyder cut...and Warner Butchers said no.



I can see the logic for this story. Snyder appears to have a business relationship with Netflix. Not only will his new film Army of the Dead be shown on the streaming service, I heard he is working on an anime series with Jay Oliva. I could imagine Netflix wanting to capitalise on the hype. I can also imagine Warner Butchers rejecting the offer, knowing the people running the studio are assholes. On the other hand, if HBO Max PR's Twitter likes a couple of articles bombarding its new streaming service to release the film, you wonder if there is some plan in motion.

With all that being said, I'm going to take what the guy says with a grain of salt. He can say he has sources, but so can anyone else. It doesn't make it true without proof.

In the meantime, Kevin Smith spoke to ComicBook.com's Instagram account for an interview, and he wishes that not only would Snyder's film get released, he'd like to see his planned story arc continue in some fashion. I'm not a fan of Smith, and he clearly doesn't have all of his facts straight. But at least he's showing some support.

https://twitter.com/RTSnyderCut/status/1256391950619598848
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei