General Swanwick was MARTIAN MANHUNTER all along!

Started by The Laughing Fish, Sun, 6 Oct 2019, 02:00

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Yeah, that's right. As it says in the subject title, Snyder dropped this bombshell on Vero that Swanwick, the general who appeared in MOS and BvS, was actually Martian Manhunter all this time. He disguised himself as Martha Kent paying a visit to Lois in a cut scene and changed back to Swanwick once he left the apartment.





Motherf***er. All these years of building the tagline "UNITE THE SEVEN" when Jason Momoa as Aquaman was first unleashed, and not only did it refer to MM, it was referring to a character who had been with the Snyderverse from the very beginning. It would've been a great twist. #untilitwasnt

Now I'm convinced more than ever, that reshooting of JL wasn't done in an act by cowardice. It was done in an aggressive, malicious manner to write the film off so they can attempt to cherry pick characters and slowly reboot DC on film. What corrupt bastards. Warner Butchers, you are a disgrace.

Meanwhile, despite of this outrageous robbery, Snyder reassured a fan to keep protesting for the cut.


QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

This news really brings a new perspective when Superman and Swanwick first met in MOS, doesn't it?



I found a couple of these Photoshop mock-ups by a designer Ramesh De Silva who made these shortly after the news broke out.





Once again, the cast, crew and fans really lost out big time.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Yeah, that would've been cool.

But why wasn't he helping in the fight with Doomsday?

Given J'onn Jonzz had built a secret life as a general for the US military - possibly to inspect the possibility of other alien lifeforms without compromising his own identity - it might've caused too many suspicions if he were to go AWOL and fight Zod and Doomsday. As much as he'd probably want to, doing that would've put him in a risky position. Besides, he saw the uncertainty and fear people were having over Kal-El. If the world was at odds over the last remaining Kryptonian on Earth, how would they have coped if they found out a Martian was living among them, who could shapeshift into anyone AND anything? Let alone a military officer? Tensions would've been intensified.

Perhaps he thought working within the confines of the military could've been just as effective, without having to raise further suspicions. It did work before, after all, he successfully guided the US military into playing their part in stopping Zod's attack on Earth.

I do like the potential of this twist had been played out in JL, and how Superman's death bringing the League together would've had more depth, seeing as Superman and MM are both alien sole survivors who adopted Earth as their home. It's a disgrace this character and plotline was removed. Worse, Harry Lennix was dropped from the theatrical cut altogether.



Call me cynical, but I suspect Geoff Johns must've known Lennix was planned to play MM at one stage, and must've thought to beat Snyder and the DCEU to the punch when he cast another actor to play the character on Supergirl. Johns was never supported of Snyder's vision, and always did his best to interfere.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: Travesty on Sun,  6 Oct  2019, 17:52
Yeah, that would've been cool.

But why wasn't he helping in the fight with Doomsday?
Because Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman had it covered? And an Army general going missing right at that moment might've disrupted the government's response to Doomsday?

He may have had a very small role in ZSJL, but Martian Manhunter undeniably played a crucial one. Not only did he succeed in convincing Lois to come out of seclusion, but it also led her to intervene and restore Clark's state of mind. Had it not been for MM's involvement, the fate of the world would've had a disastrous outcome. That makes his contribution just as valid and heroic as every member in ZSJL, in my opinion. Arguably, maybe even more so.

While MM wasn't originally meant to appear in the epilogue, his comforting words to Bruce about his parents would've been proud of him is yet another example of his compassionate nature.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei