Spider-Man: Homecoming

Started by The Laughing Fish, Wed, 13 Apr 2016, 11:37

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I think The Vulture is a good choice for the first villain (the franchise should eventually build up from relatively small stakes to much more threatening/imposing villains like the Green Goblin and Venom).  But Keaton, as much as I adore him, is an interesting choice for the part.  The Vulture is usually portrayed as a grouchy, misanthropic old man type.  Although John Malkovich is younger than Keaton, he seems more the type for the part.  Keaton for the most part seems to specialise in slicker, more cocky types of characters (his brooding Batman was a rare exception).
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.




"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Director Jon Watts' most recent Tweet: https://twitter.com/jnwtts/status/733769319394381826?lang=en-gb

Looks like Keaton's locked in. Considering the excellent first impression Holland made in Civil War, combined with the superb cast they've assembled (Downey, Tomei, Keaton), this is now tied with Guardians of the Galaxy 2 as my most anticipated CBM of 2017. Of course if we're counting TV shows as well then The Defenders is my most anticipated CB adaptation of 2017, but only because Daredevil's in it.

And on the subject of Daredevil, there are rumours that D'Onofrio's Kingpin might make an appearance in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Though D'Onofrio himself has downplayed these stories on Twitter.

QuoteSorry folks but this is news to me. It would be great but I don't think it will happen. V.
https://twitter.com/vincentdonofrio/status/733702308106768384

QuoteI love all this action about me doing #SpiderMan Tell Marvel!!!
https://twitter.com/vincentdonofrio/status/734002460122075136

Don't forget that Thor: Ragnarok has now added Jeff Goldblum and Karl Urban to its cast, which already included Cate Blanchett, Sir Anthony Hopkins returning to resume his part as Odin and Mark Ruffalo as Hulk.  So it could give Spider-Man: Homecoming and GOTG2 a run for their money.

IMHO, Thor has so far been the weak link as far as solo MCU film franchises go, but this cast, as well as the director, Taika Waititi, inspires me with a lot of confidence
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

The Thor movies have definitely been a weak link in the MCU for me. They're not awful, per se. I just don't find Thor very compelling as a character. But the addition of Goldblum has me intrigued. As does the fact the Hulk will be appearing. I'm also glad to hear Portman won't be returning as Jane Foster, since I thought she was incredibly bland and uninteresting in the role.

While I liked Guardians of the Galaxy, I didn't love it quite as much as everyone else did. What's really got me stoked about the sequel though is the addition of Stallone and Kurt Russell. It's going to be Tango & Cash in space! I was sold on the project as soon as Sly's involvement was announced.

With regards to Spider-Man: Homecoming, Deadline and quite a few other sites are stating Keaton is definitely playing Vulture. While Keaton's involvement appears to be more or less official at this stage, I haven't seen any official confirmation regarding the identity of his character. If it is Vulture, then presumably they'll be going for a more hi-tech incarnation along the lines of the Ultimate version.


But will he be formidable enough to make Spider-Man cry?


Yeah - I've read that gear left behind from the alien invasion in New York will be used to create his suit.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 22 May  2016, 01:48
Yeah - I've read that gear left behind from the alien invasion in New York will be used to create his suit.

Why not a symbiote?

I agree the thor films are the weak link of the MCU and I too was underwhelmed by Guardians of the Galaxy. That being said they are still good films and we are spoiled that the MCU has been so well. Once things I love is that the MCU isn't pretentious and doesn't tell audiences what they should enjoy, they are looking for ways to make their sequels better. Already with the casting and addition of the hulk I am more excited for thor 3 than I was thor 2. Guardians I'm excited for as I'm hoping this film will connect it to the MCU (and it probably will with infinity war coming up)

There is no symbiote yet in the MCU, is there?

And I hope that when the symbiote does emerge, it will be done far better than it was in Spider-Man 3.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.

Quote from: riddler on Tue, 24 May  2016, 14:26
Once things I love is that the MCU isn't pretentious and doesn't tell audiences what they should enjoy, they are looking for ways to make their sequels better.

The best thing about the MCU over the years is it has become so rich that you can turn to the more serious and grim Netflix shows i.e. Daredevil and Jessica Jones if you don't like the mainstream movies. One way or the other, there's an outlet for somebody to appreciate in this mega franchise.

There was a little rumour that Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin would appear in the new Spider-Man but unsurprisingly he confirmed it's not happening. It makes sense because I strongly doubt the movies and the R-Rated Netflix universe will ever cross over.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/spider-man/news/a795232/spider-man-homecoming-vincent-donofrio-denies-wilson-fisk-rumours/
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 25 May  2016, 11:15
Quote from: riddler on Tue, 24 May  2016, 14:26
Once things I love is that the MCU isn't pretentious and doesn't tell audiences what they should enjoy, they are looking for ways to make their sequels better.

The best thing about the MCU over the years is it has become so rich that you can turn to the more serious and grim Netflix shows i.e. Daredevil and Jessica Jones if you don't like the mainstream movies. One way or the other, there's an outlet for somebody to appreciate in this mega franchise.

There was a little rumour that Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin would appear in the new Spider-Man but unsurprisingly he confirmed it's not happening. It makes sense because I strongly doubt the movies and the R-Rated Netflix universe will ever cross over.

Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/spider-man/news/a795232/spider-man-homecoming-vincent-donofrio-denies-wilson-fisk-rumours/
When Joss Whedon was running the MCU the rule he came up with is that the television shows have to consider the films to be canon but the movies don't need to consider the shows canon. So for example in the films we are to assume Coulson is dead and had Agent Carter continued, they could not contradict continuity from Winter soldier or civil war (for instance since we know the eventual fates of Peggy Carter and Howard Stark, agent carter had to ensure they did not contradict future continuity)

Spider-man has so many villains I prefer having the Kingpin as a daredevil foe; I guess spidey is an underdog of sorts too but I think daredevil has had better battles; Kingpin corrupts the legal system Matt Murdock spends his days upholding and Murdock has his own legal system. The fact that he's not superpowered makes Kingpin a better physical adversary for Daredevil than Spidey as well. And of course tying the Kingpin to Jack Murdocks death adds meat there.