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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 12 Aug 2017, 02:08 »

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 12 Aug 2017, 06:11 »
I'm so up for this series, bro. You can't even guess.

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 12 Aug 2017, 22:13 »
Same here. Iím insanely stoked for this. Itís easily my most hyped CB adaptation of 2017. Are you going to binge watch it or try to pace yourself, colors? I can usually pace myself with Netflix shows, but when it comes to Daredevil I have to binge the entire thing as quickly as possible. Iíll re-watch it at a more measured pace afterwards.

Iím wondering if Mattís going to be revealed as a Black Sky. Maybe heís the one the Hand is really after and theyíre only using Elektra to draw him in.

Will this series mark the end of the Hand in the MCU? Theyíve been a major factor in the Netflix shows since DD season 1, but I canít see where else the writers can go with them once this storylineís concluded. And if they are wiped out, what will replace them as the big bad in the next batch of Marvel shows?

Will the Comic-Con Punisher footage be included after the final episode, the same way the Luke Cage preview footage was included at the end of DD s2?

Who is the mysterious Alexandra? Itís been said sheís an original creation, but will she be revealed as a character from the comics? A human avatar for Mephisto, perhaps?

Will there be any hints about DD season 3? Maybe a Fisk cameo or a Bullseye Easter egg?

Six days to go! The wait's killing me.

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 01:48 »
Same here. Iím insanely stoked for this. Itís easily my most hyped CB adaptation of 2017. Are you going to binge watch it or try to pace yourself, colors? I can usually pace myself with Netflix shows, but when it comes to Daredevil I have to binge the entire thing as quickly as possible. Iíll re-watch it at a more measured pace afterwards.

Iím wondering if Mattís going to be revealed as a Black Sky. Maybe heís the one the Hand is really after and theyíre only using Elektra to draw him in.

Will this series mark the end of the Hand in the MCU? Theyíve been a major factor in the Netflix shows since DD season 1, but I canít see where else the writers can go with them once this storylineís concluded. And if they are wiped out, what will replace them as the big bad in the next batch of Marvel shows?

Will the Comic-Con Punisher footage be included after the final episode, the same way the Luke Cage preview footage was included at the end of DD s2?

Who is the mysterious Alexandra? Itís been said sheís an original creation, but will she be revealed as a character from the comics? A human avatar for Mephisto, perhaps?

Will there be any hints about DD season 3? Maybe a Fisk cameo or a Bullseye Easter egg?

Six days to go! The wait's killing me.
My ability to binge watch depends upon my girlfriend since we watch these Netflix shows together. But next weekend is looking pretty good as far as our availability is concerned so I think we'll be able to knock out at least a few episodes.

One thing I'm not looking forward to is the sudden realization tons of people will have on August 18 that Shadowland has always been their favorite storyline ever. But whatevs...

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 03:28 »
I don't really have much to add, sadly I'm without a TV but I do have Netflix but I am extremely excited for this one. I mean this is the Avengers of the Netflix series, how can you not be psyched for that?

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 18:08 »
I expect the both of you to report back here to discuss the series in depth once youíve finished watching it. In the meantime, hereís the final trailer (unfortunately the uploader seems to have cut off the ending):



A few more questions.

Will Misty Knight finally get her mechanical arm in this series?

Iím confident Danny will get his Iron Fist costume eventually. Thereís been too much backlash for him not to, and the subject keeps getting raised in every cast interview. Charlie Cox even joked about wanting to take Finn Jones to see Potter so he could get his mask. The question is, will he get the costume in The Defenders or Iron Fist season 2?

Will Stone make another appearance? Heís one of the most badass members of the Chaste in the comics, and his cameo in DD s1 was awesome. If this series marks the end of the Hand, will the Chaste disappear also? Stick got killed in the comics. Will he die in this series too?

Five days. Argh!

One thing I'm not looking forward to is the sudden realization tons of people will have on August 18 that Shadowland has always been their favorite storyline ever. But whatevs...

Perhaps this series will challenge people to re-evaluate that story.

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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 17 Aug 2017, 17:22 »
Apparently this is the final trailer. The best one yet, IMO.


It looks like Daredevilís cowl has more of a matte finish than when we last saw it, but that could just be the lighting.


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Re: Marvelís The Defenders (Netflix)
« Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 23:26 »
I started watching this at 10 am and finished at 10:30 pm. Itís late, so here are just a few random thoughts thrown together quickly. Spoilers ahead.

I enjoyed the series a lot Ė itís my second favourite Marvel Netflix show after Daredevil Ė but I also have a lot of issues with it. The first half of the season was very slow and heavily reliant on exposition. The second half was mostly awesome.

Obviously the writers didnít have the luxury of a plot device like S.H.I.E.L.D. to quickly unite everyone and bring them all up to speed. Instead the characters in The Defenders have to cross paths organically and discover one anotherís secrets a piece at a time. The lives of these heroes are heavily intertwined with those of their supporting casts, making it impossible to extract them from their environments without bringing along a lot of baggage in the process. Because of this the story sometimes felt overstuffed, and I can only imagine how incomprehensible it must be to someone whoís never seen any of these series before now.  But the writers did a good job of making it an ensemble piece, giving each character their own storyline and remaining true to established characterisations. There was no one main star who hogged the spotlight (though Daredevil was clearly the MVP). Itís a true team show.

The idea of each character having their own signature colour was cool, but I felt they overdid the filters a little in the first two or three episodes. Sometimes the screen was so dark I really couldnít see what was happening. I know some people raised this complaint about the Daredevil solo series, but I never had a problem seeing what was going on in that show. In The Defenders, however, I found the screen to be a little too dark at times. But this mostly just applies to the first few episodes. The opening fight scene of episode one was particularly bad in this regard (and the online reports about the Punisher appearing turned out to be false). The choppy editing during that sequence also didnít help. The first couple of episodes in general were a tad over-edited. I was disappointed to see Philip J Silvera didnít handle the choreography. Iím keeping my fingers crossed heíll be back for Daredevil s3. But the photography, editing, cinematography and fight choreography all improved as the season progressed. The fight scenes in the last few episodes were particularly impressive, and the overall look of the show was consistent with the high standard of quality youíd expect from the Marvel Netflix brand.

The production design also deserves a mention. Usually these Netflix shows adhere to a strictly grim and gritty aesthetic, and thereís certainly no shortage of that in The Defenders. But the supernatural subject matter here allowed them to branch out into some more fantastical environments. At first I was a little disappointed when I realised Midland Circle was the MCU version of the Shadowland stronghold, but I ended up really liking those interior sets. They had a surreal and almost sci-fi feel to them. And the tunnels underneath were equally cool. Daredevilís costume has never looked as good in live action as it does in this show, but I was disappointed to see Danny never suited up. The final scene where heís crouching on the rooftop DD-style would have been the perfect place to debut his costume. They could have explained how he got it during a flashback in Iron Fist season 2. That felt like a missed opportunity. Still, I preferred his green threads here to what he wore in the first season of his solo series.

I like how Elektra's characterisation progressed from The Man Without Fear thrill-seeker to the coldblooded assassin of her early comic appearances. Her costume was a big improvement and her action scenes were also impressive. I liked Alexandra for the most part and Sigourney Weaver was great in the role. But shocking though her death scene was, it frustratingly deprived her arc of a substantial payoff. Ultimately her character felt like a lot of build-up for nothing. The same is true of the Handís grand master plan. I canít help being disappointed by the truth behind their big scheme. So all the machinations that began in DD s1 were about digging up some dragon bones so they could procure a substance to extend their lives? And Black Sky, while undeniably badass, was essentially just an enforcer? Honestly, itís not the most satisfying payoff.

And then thereís the ending. Weíve now leapt straight into the middle of Born Again, which forces me to rethink my predictions for DD s3. Weíve skipped the whole first half of that storyline, and Iím not sure how I feel about that. I was hoping The Defenders would end with the status quo intact so I could go straight from DD s2 to s3 when re-watching the series. Now Iíll have to incorporate The Defenders into my viewing schedule. But a Born Again adaptation could still work. More than ever though, they have to bring in Bullseye for s3. At this stage itís a must.

Thatís all Iíll say for now. Iíve focused mostly on the negative here, but there were lots of thing I loved about the show too. Iíll write more about those later.
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