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Title: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Thu, 8 Feb 2018, 21:04
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Batman: Strange Shades


Chapter 01: The Beauty & The Beast
Read it here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-beauty-and-the-beast/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=1 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-beauty-and-the-beast/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=1)

Chapter 02: A Laughing Matter
Read it here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/a-laughing-matter/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=2 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/a-laughing-matter/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=2)

Chapter 03: Uncle Alfred
Read it here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/uncle-alfred/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=3 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/uncle-alfred/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=3)

Chapter 04: A New Gotham
Read it here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/a-new-gotham/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=4 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/a-new-gotham/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=4)

Chapter 05: The Right Choice - Part I
Read it here: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-i/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=5 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-i/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=5)

Chapter 06: The Right Choice - Part II
Coming Soon - 04/06/18




Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Azrael on Fri, 9 Feb 2018, 12:56
Saw some of these a few days ago in deviantart. Solid stuff.

Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 08:49
Interesting work. The second story with Joker and Harley Quinn is a little abstract. Did he survive the fall and is secretly left in a comatose state?

I noticed you mentioned using Garry's Mod for the character designs. Did you get these skins from Arkham Knight and Injustice: Gods Among Us DLC?

Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 10 Feb 2018, 22:00
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 10 Feb  2018, 08:49
Interesting work. The second story with Joker and Harley Quinn is a little abstract. Did he survive the fall and is secretly left in a comatose state?

I noticed you mentioned using Garry's Mod for the character designs. Did you get these skins from Arkham Knight and Injustice: Gods Among Us DLC?

1. It's abstract indeed. I wanted to confirm The Joker status since the Beginning, but I don't want to play with him in a big way yet. Just throw pieces of info about what happened to him and how this affects Batman. He "survived" the fall, yes. More details about that will come in the future. After the 1989 events, he's left in a comatose state, like you say. Batman visits him almost every night just to make sure he's still there, and always tempted to finish the job.

I want to build up Joker's Return (Because he will come back, of course) slowly, developing Batman's Character and other things first. Of course, I will touch this subplot by time to time in the most abstract ways I can, because I want the readers to come to conclusions themselfs and not, you know, explain the Joke in a very "expository dialogue" way. You know, play with the "Show, don't tell" format. I don't know, I'm having fun with this Joker sub-plot, honestly.

2. To make all of this models, I used mesh parts from different games: Yakuzas Games, Fallout, Arkham Games, Injustice Games, etc...

I did not use GMod for the character designs tho, except for Scenarios and some props. For the Models, I used XPS, Blender and DAZ 3D. I use DAZ to construct the Face and Base Bodies, with accurate body shapes. Then I use XPS and I give them the designs I want, or the more accurate clothes I can find to make it close to my design ideas. Then, I use Blender to fix problems or manipulate the cloth/Body polygons. After a model is finished, I open XPS to pose it the way I want, then I use Photoshop, I joint every piece into a Comic Panel, etc, etc.

Here are some example:

(https://img00.deviantart.net/bf7b/i/2018/022/7/7/dick_grayson__burtonverse__by_mrunclebingo-dc0t1h5.jpg)

(https://img00.deviantart.net/740d/i/2018/036/d/4/harvey_dent__burtonverse__by_mrunclebingo-dc2bjvc.jpg)
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 02:03
Quote from: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 10 Feb  2018, 22:00
Batman visits him almost every night just to make sure he's still there, and always tempted to finish the job.

This is a nice touch that ties together very well with the final moments in BR, where Batman says he nor Catwoman are above the law. Sparing a comatose Joker with every chance he gets would show he has turned a corner morally, especially after seeing how Catwoman wanting to get her own revenge was driving her crazy.

Quote from: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 10 Feb  2018, 22:00
I want to build up Joker's Return (Because he will come back, of course) slowly, developing Batman's Character and other things first. Of course, I will touch this subplot by time to time in the most abstract ways I can, because I want the readers to come to conclusions themselfs and not, you know, explain the Joke in a very "expository dialogue" way. You know, play with the "Show, don't tell" format. I don't know, I'm having fun with this Joker sub-plot, honestly.

I totally understand what you mean by "show, don't tell". Sadly, I get the impression that's becoming an art-form that people don't notice or appreciate nowadays.

Thanks for the info about those character designs, nice work!
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 08:03
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 11 Feb  2018, 02:03
Quote from: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 10 Feb  2018, 22:00
Batman visits him almost every night just to make sure he's still there, and always tempted to finish the job.

This is a nice touch that ties together very well with the final moments in BR, where Batman says he nor Catwoman are above the law. Sparing a comatose Joker with every chance he gets would show he has turned a corner morally, especially after seeing how Catwoman wanting to get her own revenge was driving her crazy.

Quote from: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 10 Feb  2018, 22:00
I want to build up Joker's Return (Because he will come back, of course) slowly, developing Batman's Character and other things first. Of course, I will touch this subplot by time to time in the most abstract ways I can, because I want the readers to come to conclusions themselfs and not, you know, explain the Joke in a very "expository dialogue" way. You know, play with the "Show, don't tell" format. I don't know, I'm having fun with this Joker sub-plot, honestly.

I totally understand what you mean by "show, don't tell". Sadly, I get the impression that's becoming an art-form that people don't notice or appreciate nowadays.

Thanks for the info about those character designs, nice work!

1. Indeed. In fact, The second story alone in this "fan-canon" it's a prequel/prologue to "Batman Returns" already, because it happens the same night when the Red Circus Triangle Gang attack Max Shreck (Take a look to the Clock on Page 04). I always liked the scene of Bruce sitting alone on Wayne Manor, so I tried to expand that with this short story, and also keep going with the idea that Burton's Batman it's psychologically unstable.

2. Yeah, I wish people tried more the "Show, Don't tell" technique this days. I'm doing this whole project to test some Script styles and see how I work with them. Burton's Batman dealed with "Show, Don't tell" stuff a lot, so it will be fun to challenge myself and see where I can go with this.

3. Thanks for your comments man. I've been watching this forum for years, specially the Burton/Schumacher Movie sections, this is the first time I decided to post something. It was thanks to this place that I discovered things like the novelization of "Batman Forever" or the "Batman '89" comic project that was turned down years ago. I wanted to share this knowing that there was people here who loved Burton's Batman Stuff, so it relieves me a lot to see you're liking this stuff. Can't wait to show the stuff I'm making. Have a nice day, Laughing Fish.
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Tue, 20 Feb 2018, 06:45
UPDATE 20-02-18:
-Added Chapter 04: https://mrunclebingo.deviantart.com/art/Batman-Strange-Shades-04-729814479 (https://mrunclebingo.deviantart.com/art/Batman-Strange-Shades-04-729814479)
-Not good enough. Still, some decent ideas come in this one.
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Fri, 2 Mar 2018, 01:41
UPDATE 03-01-18:
-Added Chapter 05 Cover & Title.
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Thu, 8 Mar 2018, 03:31
UPDATE 08-03-18:
-Added Chapter 05: http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-i/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=5 (http://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-i/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=5)
-Changed DeviantArt links for Webtoons links.
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Sat, 7 Apr 2018, 01:43
UPDATE 06-04-18:
-Thanks to personal issues, "BSS: #06" will be delayed some days. It will come out around 08-04-18 or 10-04-18.
-To excuse this delay, here you have the first page of the comic, as a preview:

(https://pre00.deviantart.net/84e0/th/pre/i/2018/096/0/1/pg1_by_mrunclebingo-dc83u9r.jpg?1)
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Thu, 12 Apr 2018, 00:56
(https://img00.deviantart.net/61b9/i/2018/101/3/1/batman_strange_shades__06_by_mrunclebingo-dc6yifo.jpg)

Issue #06: The Right Choice - Part II
Read Here: https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-ii/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=6 (https://www.webtoons.com/en/challenge/batman-strange-shades/the-right-choice-part-ii/viewer?title_no=156320&episode_no=6)
Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: Jhonjanor Carrillo on Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 04:29
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Title: Re: Batman: Strange Shades - The Burton's Batman Fan Comic Thread
Post by: johnnygobbs on Mon, 16 Apr 2018, 10:00
Thank you for the explanation Jhonjanor Carrillo.

I hope things work out in your personal life, and I look forward to further instalments whenever you are finally able to resume the series.

In the meantime, all the best.