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Title: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 24 Mar 2017, 19:34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIHH5-HVS9o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPIXKru0W0I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eJ7NGllyw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6wDafyKBec

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PtdHNBbz-M
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 01:23
(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/justice-league/17349762_1337611299666014_1321506846992253218_o.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Batman-Justice-League-Poster-HD.jpg?fit=2764%2C4096&quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=657&h=505)

(https://i1.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/The-Flash-Justice-League-Poster-1.jpg?fit=2764%2C4096&quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=657&h=505)

(https://i2.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Aquaman-Justice-League-Character-Poster-HD.jpg?fit=2764%2C4096&quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=657&h=505)

(https://i0.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Wonder-Woman-Justice-League-Poster-1.jpg?fit=2764%2C4096&quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=657&h=505)

A little odd that the Batsuit is inverted.

Fun little fact: the JL animated series debuted on November 17 2001. This first ever live action film will hit theatres on November 17 2017.

Coincidence? ;)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 01:44
I forgot to show Cyborg's poster.

(https://i2.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Cyborg-Justice-League-Poster-HD.jpg?fit=2764%2C4096&quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=657&h=505)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 01:46
I like the completed poster of all the current league members. It's nothing spectacular but it works. The only issue I have is the white emblem on Batman's chest to make it stand out more. In the completed poster though, I guess we could argue it's light projected onto his chest.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 14:47
Yeah, very odd choice for the Batman poster, especially since that's not what he looks like in the movie. I have no clue why they did that?

My favorites are WW and Flash. I also can't wait for the WW solo movie.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 15:04
The trailer is up:

https://youtu.be/3cxixDgHUYw

Quote from: Travesty on Sat, 25 Mar  2017, 14:47
Yeah, very odd choice for the Batman poster, especially since that's not what he looks like in the movie. I have no clue why they did that?
I've found a version in which the emblem is corrected. It's been done by a fan but you wouldn't even know. It looks much better, and it's the poster I'll be using for reference from now on.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 15:36
My initial thoughts:

I loved this trailer. It's like Joel Schumacher's penchant for crazy action but on steroids - we have Aquaman riding on top of the Batmobile and leaping off into the sky. Zack is going all out. Tonally, it's going to be a lot more 'fun' but with the same dark stylistic landscape Snyder is known for.

Batman wise, I'm happy.

Batman gliding in the open air, dodging a missile, landing, rolling and throwing a gadget at a Parademon. This is the continuation of the Batman we saw in BvS, but probably even elevated above that.

"What are your super powers again?" – "I'm rich".
Gliding down a massive shaft, getting into a weaponised vehicle and saying "my turn".
Gordon saying "it's good to see you playing well with others again" – "it may be temporary".

Those pieces of dialogue are playful but don't betray the character at all. They work and I love them. It's just like the JL animated series. Batman is forced to be more sociable but he still manages to hold onto his dark personality. Bruce riding the horse at the start reminded me of TDK Returns too, which is awesome.

The slow motion takedowns are great – Aquaman taking down targets with his trident, and a slow motion shot of WonderGal kicking ass and then whipping her hair back. Zack knows how to make things look cool, there's no doubt about that.

This is pure rock and roll.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 15:45
Ummmm, wow. I really loved the trailer. I like how it still has the same aesthetic, but it seems to have been lighter in tone with a bit mre humor, which I'm fine with. When Barry asked Bruce what his superpower was, and he said, "I'm rich", I laughed. Flash looks like he may be the standout, I'm loving everything we've seen of him, WW is lookin just as badass as ever. Aquaman is surprising me, which is good. And damn, Cyborg looks great! And of course, Batman. He's my favorite, so it's no question what I think. He looks amazing. And all of that Batmobile footage!!!!

Just a great trailer all around. I loved it.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 15:56
Yeah - it seems like you had the same reaction as me Travesty. As a youngster who grew up loving action sequences and comic books, this really appeals to my senses. For a film about a bunch of super powered heroes, you need to use CGI. There's no way around it. No amount of practical stunt work is going to be able to create the types of scenarios we see in this trailer. I'm cool with that, just as I was cool with the Doomsday finale in BvS.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 19:32
Bad. Ass.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 20:11
I've said that my investment in the DCEU at this point really does come down to Batman.

So in relation to that, I enjoyed the trailer. I like that Snyder is loosening up a bit and trying to be more "fun" (whatever that means). Like TDK says, it all is grounded in the dark style of BVS but the dialogue seems lighter and a little more playful. I like that approach.

I don't think the haters will have their minds changed by this trailer but I like Batman's presentation in it.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Mar 2017, 21:42
I like the trailer. I noticed Barry visiting his father in jail, and I suspect we'll be getting backstory on Cyborg.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 00:14
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 25 Mar  2017, 20:11
I don't think the haters will have their minds changed by this trailer
Of course not, but these same people didn't want Snyder returning after BvS. We already know their negative leanings against the man. Zack Snyder is giving us a Zack Snyder film. That's what he's been hired to do. This trailer fills me with confidence that every member is going to get their chance to shine - Superman included when the time comes.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 00:46
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Mar  2017, 21:42
I like the trailer. I noticed Barry visiting his father in jail, and I suspect we'll be getting backstory on Cyborg.

Sadly I get the feeling Papa Cyborg's encounter with that creeping parademon is going to end badly. Isn't that the guy who worked for Skynet in Terminator 2? Cyborg's daddy, not the parademon.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 25 Mar  2017, 15:36

"What are your super powers again?" – "I'm rich".
Gliding down a massive shaft, getting into a weaponised vehicle and saying "my turn".
Gordon saying "it's good to see you playing well with others again" – "it may be temporary".

Those pieces of dialogue are playful but don't betray the character at all. They work and I love them. It's just like the JL animated series. Batman is forced to be more sociable but he still manages to hold onto his dark personality.


Totally agree
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 00:48
Btw I KNOW Flash is Barry, not Cyborg, but the backstory was mentioned so I think there will be emotional gravity from that cause of the parademon unless someone blasts its ass.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 01:37
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 00:46
Sadly I get the feeling Papa Cyborg's encounter with that creeping parademon is going to end badly.
Yeah, I think he will get killed and Cyborg probably decides to join the League not long afterwards.

I think it's clear the LOTR style war scene is the historical flashback which begins the film.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:11

I like that they are making Aquaman the fun one who enjoys his work.

Oh, and I keep looking at that leg-sweeping shot of Wonder Woman.
You know the one I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:16
Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 02:11
Oh, and I keep looking at that leg-sweeping shot of Wonder Woman.
You know the one I'm talking about.
You mean this shot?
(http://i.imgur.com/a9ZRikL.gif)
I'll have to keep watching just to make sure it's the right one.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:23

(https://s25.postimg.org/eihclgurz/Licking_Lips-_Mike_Miller.gif)

That's it!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:39
What I love about these posters and trailers coming out now was it happened a few days after those idiots on Batman-on-Film were speculating the movie may be in trouble because WB hadn't released any promotional material yet.

Man, they really nailed the look of Batman and Gordon together on 2:10. Comic book characters truly coming to life.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:46
Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 02:23

(https://s25.postimg.org/eihclgurz/Licking_Lips-_Mike_Miller.gif)

That's it!
I don't know, Joker. I better keep watching just to be absolutely sure.

I love the whole package Gadot presents. The costume, the action and her voice. I'm way past ready to see her solo film.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 02:39
Man, they really nailed the look of Batman and Gordon together on 2:10. Comic book characters truly coming to life.
Indeed. And Gordon's line about playing well with others again is clearly referencing members of the Bat family.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 01:37
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 00:46
Sadly I get the feeling Papa Cyborg's encounter with that creeping parademon is going to end badly.
Yeah, I think he will get killed and Cyborg probably decides to join the League not long afterwards.
Actually, no. I think he's kidnapped by the Parademons, along with other scientists, and they go in to rescue them all.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 02:56
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 02:46
I don't know, Joker. I better keep watching just to be absolutely sure.

A perfectly fine, understandable, and reasonable stance. Thanks for posting that GIF, btw.  ;D

QuoteI love the whole package Gadot presents. The costume, the action and her voice. I'm way past ready to see her solo film.

Yeah, Gal as Wonder Woman is special. Snyder really knocked it out of the park with choosing her.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 03:23
The brief shot of Lois is enough to suggest Superman. The whole 'look up in the sky' association that comes with the character.

And I'm guessing the montage of Flash, Aquaman, Wonder Woman and Cyborg is near the end of the film, possibly even the last scene. I bet Superman and Batman are standing next to each other, and that's why they've only shown the other characters.

A recreation of this image:

(https://i1.wp.com/hypebeast.com/image/2016/01/justice-league-movie-artwork-revealed-001.jpg?w=960)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 03:27
^Which would appear to be a nice homage to the intro of the early 2000s animated series.

(http://www.strangekidsclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/JLA-animated-series_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 03:35

Speaking of which ....

Saw these on Twitter, and I think they are too cool not to post.

(http://images4.hiboox.com/images/1217/466a114f53d30d5476c38c6ef3e2fe03.jpg)
(http://images4.hiboox.com/images/1217/ea5473ba5ad22d5bb05b89fdd7f33fc1.jpg)
(http://images4.hiboox.com/images/1217/fb363d143e1002d289bd9754c4831d17.jpg)
(http://images4.hiboox.com/images/1217/3374dce6db81084e0141d21cb5a3b1b8.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 06:12
^I saw those earlier during the day too, they're awesome.

I've seen some people complaining Superman is absent from the trailer and marketing, which I think is a bit dense. On the other hand, it should make his resurrection all the more sweeter.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 12:15
It's not a case of IF Superman will return, but HOW and WHEN. I wouldn't have a problem if they hid Superman from the trailers and marketing altogether. The situation right now post BvS is that he's dead. Any changes in fortunes for the guy are to be discovered by the audience BY WATCHING THE FILM ITSELF. It does create a bigger sense of expectation and mystery around his role too, much like Luke Skywalker in TFA/TLJ. You *really* want to see him.

Quote from: The Joker on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 02:11
I like that they are making Aquaman the fun one who enjoys his work.
Back to this - I agree. It's actually very much like The Brave and the Bold's Aquaman who lived for fighting. I think Snyder's Aquaman will be much like the initial meeting with Bruce suggests. He's a ruthless savage to his enemies, but loyal and jovial with his friends. I'm okay with that mix.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar 2017, 17:35
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 03:23
The brief shot of Lois is enough to suggest Superman. The whole 'look up in the sky' association that comes with the character.



If I were a betting girl (I'm not) I would guess that's her catching herself looking up hopefully for the zillionth time and finding nothing but sky yet again. I hope we don't see even a nanosecond of any scene involving Clark (even reactions of other characters) until we're in the theater.

Looooove the JLTAS posters. And the leg sweep. ;)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 27 Mar 2017, 00:58
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 17:35
If I were a betting girl (I'm not) I would guess that's her catching herself looking up hopefully for the zillionth time and finding nothing but sky yet again.
That's certainly possible.
Quote from: Catwoman on Sun, 26 Mar  2017, 17:35
I hope we don't see even a nanosecond of any scene involving Clark (even reactions of other characters) until we're in the theater.
Same. The usual people will say this is just more proof Snyder hates Superman.

But they've been saying that for a long time now anyway.

I like that the DCEU Batman started out with allies (at least Robin) but became jaded over the years to what we eventually see in BvS. And now he has to become someone who is willing to be part of a team and trust others again. Learning to be who he once was. We have seen a similar sort of arc before with the Burton/Schumacher series. However the fact its being overseen by the same director with the same actor makes it better to me.

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-SDN6pkYyAiA/WNaTLUkQQ3I/AAAAAAAAdbY/DL1b7GhxoqAOHGMQ1QAHqYF279r3VzpCgCLcB/s400/giphy-5.gif)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 27 Mar 2017, 11:50
Snyder's eye for visual continuity strikes again.

(http://i.imgur.com/bENJjMd.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 27 Mar 2017, 14:48
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 27 Mar  2017, 11:50
Snyder's eye for visual continuity strikes again.

(http://i.imgur.com/bENJjMd.jpg)
That's cool. I expect a lot of this type of thing.

Bruce/Aquaman at the fishing village could possibly parallel Clark's experience in MOS. In MOS, Clark speaks to a rude diner who has been drinking alcohol, but decides not to physically intervene. In JL, Bruce is seeking a mystery man who has been drinking alcohol, and is also met with aggression. Could Bruce leave the diner humbled, but strikes back at Aquaman in an indirect way, ala Clark and the truck?

And here's just a plain ol' guess, because why not?

Wonder Woman's slide kick is a daytime action sequence. What if Superman returns during this sequence, with a classic Snyder hero shot of big blue against a rising sun? A new dawn for heroes. That kind of thing.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Mon, 27 Mar 2017, 20:12
http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/3/27/15065034/superman-justice-league-evil-batman-dc-comic-proof-zack-snyder

I only skimmed this because it was giving me a headache but I read enough. Thoughts?

I think the guy is an idiot, personally. Why not show Superman? Freaking duh, they want to save the big "He's back" moment for when people are in the theater watching the movie. Not when they're on their computer in their PJs (or less...no further comment needed there boys) watching a trailer.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, 06:56
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 27 Mar  2017, 20:12
http://www.theverge.com/tldr/2017/3/27/15065034/superman-justice-league-evil-batman-dc-comic-proof-zack-snyder

I only skimmed this because it was giving me a headache but I read enough. Thoughts?
Consider the source of this stuff and tailor your reaction accordingly.
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 27 Mar  2017, 20:12
I think the guy is an idiot, personally. Why not show Superman? Freaking duh, they want to save the big "He's back" moment for when people are in the theater watching the movie. Not when they're on their computer in their PJs (or less...no further comment needed there boys) watching a trailer.
Bingo.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 28 Mar 2017, 10:52
The Verge is one of those clickbait piles of fecal matter that feast on manufacturing outrage for the sake of clicks. They're one of those wankers who derided Iron Fist because they're upset the lead character isn't Asian (despite he's always been white in the comics). The funny thing is, Asians are a diverse group of people, and I wouldn't be surprised if many would actually be peeved at suggestions that reinforce a stereotype that every member of their race are capable of kung-fu.

#DestroyClickbait
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 29 Mar 2017, 04:04

(http://images3.hiboox.com/images/1317/10b2394bdfe88bc61bc939faac73c07e.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 00:17

Possible concept artwork.

(http://free0.hiboox.com/images/1317/607edaff1c8cdc5ae8a64cad27463f05.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 00:38
Quote from: Catwoman on Mon, 27 Mar  2017, 20:12I think the guy is an idiot, personally. Why not show Superman? Freaking duh, they want to save the big "He's back" moment for when people are in the theater watching the movie. Not when they're on their computer in their PJs (or less...no further comment needed there boys) watching a trailer.
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 28 Mar  2017, 06:56Bingo.
Purdy much. I guess we could all be proven wrong here. But I don't know what else to think about Cavill receiving a credit for the movie but being mysteriously absent from all promo stuff so far. Maybe the marketing department learned from the Doomsday thing in the BVS trailers.

Seems to me that the click-bait article guy is too fixated on his own retarded theory. But at least he sounds excited about the movie. So there's that.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 02:07
Honestly, I think the haters just want to see their anti-Snyder viewpoints confirmed. They love bashing the guy and in their own weird way, they're just as obsessed about Zack as his fans. BvS didn't line up with their own imagined expectations. They couldn't get past certain narrative decisions, and they still can't. That is reflected in the absurd 27% RT score. This is used as proof the film sucks when in reality, the mood upon release was split. Criticism is to be expected for any film, but I just ask for fairness. Biased hate drove the score that low and nothing will convince me otherwise - just as nothing will change the minds of others that Snyder apparently hates Superman. 
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 02:40
I agree, TDK, and think it's funny in it's own way.

If say, the amount of criticism that has been thrown at BvS, was attributed to specific Marvel films that were decidedly lackluster compared to some of the other MCU films, I wouldn't even have to state it. Unfortunately, that's not the case. I see MOS, BvS, and SS held to the fire for the final product that's put out, but I also notice that the same, THE SAME, very standards are decidedly not applied to the Marvel films, and/or choose to remain oddly silent on the subject. For instance, I cannot say that everything concerning the DCEU has been to my own personal preference, but I take the good with the bad. Much like I do the MCU. I wholeheartedly loathe the notion that the DCEU deserves the amount of criticisms it gets, while for some reason, the MCU get's a pass.

Again, I totally get that it's stylish to continually bash the DCEU for their shortcomings in countless videos or podcasts posted on Youtube/iTunes, but I also would note that it's absolutely fair to call out MCU films for their shortcomings (and yes, creative blunders do actually exist in the MCU), rather than gloss over them and resort to what comes across as group think/blind praise.

Oh well, to me, and if anything, Snyder as a director can take solace that it's better to have fans debate your line of films for years, rather than the alternative, which is playing it safe and not be talked about hardly at all.  ;)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 03:51
That's very true, Joker. But let's not forget TDKT. The bastards always leave those movies off the hook too.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 30 Mar 2017, 12:35
This is via IMDb so keep that in mind. JL may be 2 hours 50 minutes in length.

http://screenrant.com/justice-league-movie-runtime/

Fingers crossed this is true. Snyder makes epic length movies so I'd be inclined to believe it's possible.

Perhaps Snyder will be able to insist upon a longer runtime after the positive reaction to his true vision of BvS, the Ultimate Edition, and the split reaction to the theatrical cut.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 02:06
Quote from: The Joker on Thu, 30 Mar  2017, 02:40Oh well, to me, and if anything, Snyder as a director can take solace that it's better to have fans debate your line of films for years, rather than the alternative, which is playing it safe and not be talked about hardly at all.  ;)
This is quite true, now that you mention it. By way of example, Ant-Man came and went. It's not an active subject of discussion for most people now. It's just kind of there. It was a product. It was consumed and now it has been forgotten. How often do any of us fondly look back at that Big Mac with extra cheese we ate on July 16, 1998?

BVS is hotly debated, even now. Hell. one might say especially now. It came out a year ago but both sides are still duking it out. Those who love it might compare it to a fine, medium-rare steak served in a swanky restaurant while those who hate it gripe about the cost of the steak.

Interesting...
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 04:32
Very true statements from both of you.

That's what I dig about stories with monumental plot beats, eg. Superman dying, Batman taking names, etc. They illicit a strong response in the community/fan base which keeps people talking. These stories are going to be the ones that are remembered, for better or worse. They just don't come and go like the majority of films these days. With JL, Snyder has the whole Superman resurrection to handle. That's his main hook and I can't wait to see what he does with it.

I can see Snyder's trilogy of MoS, BvS and JL eliciting strong discussion for many years to come. As far as I am concerned, Snyder is the modern day Tim Burton and in some ways, I think he's even better. He's a once in generation talent. A misunderstood genius. The Quentin Tarantino of comic book films. Not afraid to ramp up the violence. Not afraid to make long length films. They both put their personality on the screen. They both have balls of steel to say to the audience love it or leave. And I love them both for it.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 11:07
Well, you're going to love this TDK. Snyder gave this little cheeky reply to somebody complaining about the rumoured running time on Twitter.

Quote from: jon berg
@ZackSnyder Disappointed the JL movie is only 170 minutes... also curious as movie isn't finished yet, but IMDB knows exact running time?
Quote from: Zack Snyder
@thejonberg Forgot to tell you that I screened the first cut of JL for IMDB. Thought that was standard WB procedure. No?

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/847656233381146625
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 11:22
(http://dl9fvu4r30qs1.cloudfront.net/81/eb2e40d12e11e1a00322000a1d0930/file/venom.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 16:21
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 31 Mar  2017, 04:32I can see Snyder's trilogy of MoS, BvS and JL eliciting strong discussion for many years to come. As far as I am concerned, Snyder is the modern day Tim Burton and in some ways, I think he's even better. He's a once in generation talent. A misunderstood genius.
Speaking of which, it does make me wonder where he'll land after Justice League. I assume he'll remain active in the DCEU. Reeves already has Batman locked up so maybe Snyder will return to Superman? It's hard to say. But I want him to stick around in some capacity.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 31 Mar 2017, 23:44
I like the idea he comes back for JL2 later down the line, after The Batman and Man of Steel 2 are wrapped up.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 8 Apr 2017, 09:29
I heard that those degenerates on Collider are guessing that the Flash is going to go back in time to "reboot" the DC universe to make everything "light" and "fun" because we see a shot of him running towards the Speed Force.

Is there anything these clickbait sellouts won't stoop so low for?
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 12 Apr 2017, 19:31

(http://prem0.hiboox.com/images/1517/7ff8409b5716813d5f14d7514577a3c6.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 18 Apr 2017, 09:20
It's not the best poster, but it gets the job done. I'm assuming they're looking off into the distance at Superman.

I'd probably like it more if they removed the text, or made it smaller at the bottom.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Tue, 18 Apr 2017, 20:19
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 18 Apr  2017, 09:20It's not the best poster, but it gets the job done. I'm assuming they're looking off into the distance at Superman.

I'd probably like it more if they removed the text, or made it smaller at the bottom.
It's a very mobile phone-friendly poster. Considering how many people watch these movies on phones now, it's reasonable to assume that big garish lettering like that is where things are going in the future. Civil War is probably a more useful signpost of where cinema is headed right now than BVS... which I'm not happy about but which I accept nevertheless.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 02:50
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 18 Apr  2017, 20:19
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 18 Apr  2017, 09:20It's not the best poster, but it gets the job done. I'm assuming they're looking off into the distance at Superman.

I'd probably like it more if they removed the text, or made it smaller at the bottom.
It's a very mobile phone-friendly poster. Considering how many people watch these movies on phones now, it's reasonable to assume that big garish lettering like that is where things are going in the future. Civil War is probably a more useful signpost of where cinema is headed right now than BVS... which I'm not happy about but which I accept nevertheless.

And here I thought the big lettering for locations in CW was for artistic expression. 😐
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 09:14
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 19 Apr  2017, 02:50And here I thought the big lettering for locations in CW was for artistic expression. 😐
Stuff like that passes through six or seven layers of bureaucracy, not least of which is focus groups. I find it hard to believe that the giant letters are so easy to read on mobile devices to be a coincidence.

On the other hand, it's not like I know everything. If my life and career are anything to judge by, it's usually a big mistake for me to assume competence of anybody I don't know. And I don't know anybody involved with Civil War. So what I assume is forward-thinking on their part could very easily be the director(s) pulling a Homer.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 10:24
You're probably right there.

Generally speaking, I'm excited about JL. I'm all about feel good redemption arcs these days. I just love it.

I had some hope for TDK Rises for this reason, even though Nolan wasn't my cup of tea. Nolan built up Bane's threat well. Almost too well. Bane ruled Gotham like no one else ever has in live action. The problem for me is the fact Batman didn't completely kick the mumbling gas mask wearer's ass to the curb. The ass whipping needs to be completely satisfying to me. That short fight at the end with Bane (in which Batman just about has his head shot off moments later) just didn't make up for that sewer thrashing and lengthy prison stint.

I'm willing to have Superman return in the last act if his return delivers spine tingling goods. I'm talking about finding out Steppenwolf rules over Earth, kicking down doors and shouting out "over my dead body!" I'm talking about heat visioning Parademons into ash, punching foes into space and then receiving a worldwide round of applause. Honestly, I wouldn't rule out something like this with Snyder. He's well and truly aware people think he hates the character so he may double whatever he already had planned in the first place.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 12:00
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 19 Apr  2017, 10:24
I'm willing to have Superman return in the last act if his return delivers spine tingling goods. I'm talking about finding out Steppenwolf rules over Earth, kicking down doors and shouting out "over my dead body!" I'm talking about heat visioning Parademons into ash, punching foes into space and then receiving a worldwide round of applause. Honestly, I wouldn't rule out something like this with Snyder. He's well and truly aware people think he hates the character so he may double whatever he already had planned in the first place.

That would be awesome, but the issue is assholes would whine about Superman killing Parademons. The Parademons could fornicate people in a disgusting display of perversion like in the ending of Fellini's Satyricon...and the only thing idiots would only care about is Superman killing aliens.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, I can't remember if that reference was in Satyricon, or directed by Federico Fellini...might've been Pier Paolo Pasolini for some other movie instead...but anyway, my point is people would get more outraged is Superman is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't, haha.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 18:13
My view is Superman shouldn't kill if he doesn't need to. But in cases like Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, he basically had no choice. A threat that dangerous and violent is existential. It's stupid to think Superman shouldn't take life in those kinds of situations.

For purposes of discussion, I believe that can be extended to the forces of Apokolips. They're a threat to the entire planet. And there's no guarantee that Superman will always be able (or available) to defeat them. Shutting them down permanently while he still can is a morally permissible act if you ask me.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 19 Apr 2017, 23:27
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 19 Apr  2017, 18:13
My view is Superman shouldn't kill if he doesn't need to. But in cases like Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, he basically had no choice. A threat that dangerous and violent is existential. It's stupid to think Superman shouldn't take life in those kinds of situations.
Agreed.

For Batman, B89 is my template. Punks are put down with martial arts - there's no need to kill these guys. However goons firing on the pubic should be dispatched, with lethal force if necessary, because the situation is far too great. Batman is a human and his options are limited.

With Superman, criminals robbing banks don't need to be killed either. Arrest them and move on to the next threat. Goons firing on the public don't really *need* to be killed. Superman can just fly in, take them away and the situation is over in seconds - that's the point of intervening in the first place. Lethal force for Superman is required when the situation is just far too great to ignore, eg. Zod on a rampage.

Humanizing alien creatures like Parademons is where I draw the line too. They're in town for one reason and one reason only. To kill and take over NOW. And they're not going to stop until they achieve that goal. So Parademons are fair game.

Superman is a public relations character as much as anything. Throwing his weight around for minor threats isn't really going to get him much praise. I think it would just scare the people, especially those who complain about police brutality and excessive force. A character like Batman doesn't need to care about this stuff, but Superman is a little different. The public want to know Superman is a good man and will be there to protect them appropriately. He should use his power level according to the threat he faces at the time.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 04:39
True. And the thing is Superman killed Doomsday during their battle. Now yeah, Doomsday came back from the dead. But that was all invented later on. In the moment, Doomsday was DEAD. And that's because Superman killed him.

And yet, nobody seemed to have a problem with that when they honestly believed Doomsday was never coming back.

And that's because Superman responded appropriately to the danger of the situation.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 20 Apr 2017, 11:01
Some additional thoughts about that. I'm not religious, but in religion there's the concept of angels and demons. Demons are pure evil entities that have no wiggle room for redemption. If a house is haunted, people usually call in a psychic. They just want whatever is making their life hell out of there like the day before yesterday. Doomsday classifies as such an entity. He's nothing but a monster who wants to kill and destroy. Nobody is going to mourn his death. The same case could also be made of Zod, Brainiac and the other heavyweights. If your life is directly threatened by something, you just want it the hell out.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 12 May 2017, 04:10

Looks like Supes anticipating Hal Jordan's appearance soon ....

(https://s25.postimg.org/b5llyvrkf/Henry-_GL_Tease_Twitter.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 12 May 2017, 06:08
Quote from: The Joker on Fri, 12 May  2017, 04:10

Looks like Supes anticipating Hal Jordan's appearance soon ....

(https://s25.postimg.org/b5llyvrkf/Henry-_GL_Tease_Twitter.jpg)
There's been a few Green Lantern hints now. I wouldn't rule out a cameo now, or something which sets him up.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Mon, 22 May 2017, 23:02
Edit: wrong thread. Sorry.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 28 Jul 2017, 19:19

NEW Justice League poster unveiled at SDCC 2017.

(https://s25.postimg.org/d5unfyfkf/Poster-_July_SDCC_2017.jpg)


Gal & the Crew.

(https://s25.postimg.org/fboyagj0v/Gal-_Team_Selfie.jpg)

(https://s25.postimg.org/6upfzjebz/Gal_SDCC_2017_Silly.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sat, 29 Jul 2017, 17:48
Those pics are great. Love that they are having a good time. This is going to be fun.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 30 Jul 2017, 02:24
These posters pop. Love 'em all.

(http://i.imgur.com/PGA0NOc.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 2 Aug 2017, 23:59

Different looks of the Batfleck.

(https://s25.postimg.org/85s74ds5r/DGL2_FM5_UQAAq8w_Y.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 20:33
(https://i2.wp.com/cdn.batman-news.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/Justice-League-Japan.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&ssl=1&w=800)

I'm glad they're keeping Superman out of the promo pics. We all know he's going to show up, but not revealing him at this stage creates a sense of anticipation. It also gives the special effects artists more time to digitally remove Cavill's facial hair.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/07/cavills-mustache-is-messing-with-justice-league-reshoots.html

If it were up to me, I'd have the make-up people paint over his tashe. I'm sure no one would ever spot the anomaly.

(http://previously.tv/m/kotm-jokerstache-full.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 20:41
We're coming into the home stretch of the pre-release marketing. So my guess is that if JL's Superman hasn't been released in publicity yet, it won't happen until after the movie comes out. But I guess never say never.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 13 Aug 2017, 23:58
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sun, 13 Aug  2017, 20:33
I'm glad they're keeping Superman out of the promo pics.
Yep. Reflecting the status quo as it stands right now make sense to me. Anything that changes that situation is to be discovered by watching the film. The fact people are asking "where's Supes?, I want to see him" means the strategy is working. They're hungry for even a millisecond of footage. But at the same time I don't get why they'd want to see him now. I'd much rather leave any footage hidden away for November. I think WB definitely screwed up by revealing Doomsday in the BvS trailers. Or hell, even Wonder Woman. Imagine if all that content wasn't shown.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Mon, 14 Aug 2017, 12:20
I kind of hope we don't see Supes in the promotional material since he likely appears later in the film. No spoilers SVP!

Even though it wasn't permanent and this sort of thing happens all the time in the comics, it would be unwise to throw away Superman's death like it's nothing. That IS what inspired the justice league to form. If they want to appeal to the masses, they should note that there will be people who wont like a dead character coming back to life so broadcasting that it will happen would turn some people off.

If I were running a promotional campaign for a super hero film, I would not include in the promotion any hero or villain who only gets one scene; Venom in spider-man 3, the rhino in amazing spider-man, Wonder Woman in Batman vs Superman. That way it would come off of a surprise cameo that the character was even there instead of a let down of its lack of screen time.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Tue, 15 Aug 2017, 22:52

(https://s25.postimg.org/53uzb6tvz/GIF_Batman_Montage.gif)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 01:43
(http://cdn2-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/justice-league/mp24170322.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 02:01
If that's legit... *sigh*

Oh well.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 02:48
It's legit, but I think it's just a promo image they'd slap on merchandise. Or even those kind of posters supermarkets sell occasionally. Superman fans who were moaning about not getting an image with their hero can zip it now. But the official Alex Ross themed poster is THE poster for this film.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 03:08
You know, it hit me the other day that WB really is handling the DCEU pretty well. Intentionally or not, the same director created the look for all or most of the League members. This gives the characters an aesthetic synergy with one another.

By way of comparison, picture Christopher Reeve's Superman teaming up with Michael Keaton's Batman. They're from different aesthetic viewpoints and wouldn't have looked good together on screen.

I think that's even truer of Blandon Routh's Superman and Christian Bale's Batman. Indeed, the only reason I would've supported teaming those two up is to ruin the Nolan fans' day. But they would've clashed horribly with each other. Routh's pleather bikini would've looked totally out of place next to Bale's sleek, armored look.

But Affleck's Batman looks very much of a piece with Cavill's Superman... as is logical since the same filmmaker guided their designs. Same with the other characters.

It's probably a coincidence that things worked out this way... but you really can't knock the results. Or I can't anyway.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Fri, 18 Aug 2017, 04:04
Is that the Bat logo under the title?

I'd have preferred if they kept Superman out of the promotional material and tried to hide his appearance in the film but I'll get over it. I guess DC is mirroring it's BvS marketing and giving Superman the Wonder Woman treatment.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 2 Sep 2017, 00:36
Here is another shot of Bats, WW and Flash together...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIpGX3qXYAAUGvt.jpg)


...and here are solo wallpapers of each Justice League member you can use for your PC. Taken from the group shot theatrical poster.

(https://i2.wp.com/www.dcworld.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/batman_justice_league_part_one_4k_8k-7680x4320.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1)

(https://i0.wp.com/www.dcworld.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/wonder_woman_justice_league_part_one_hd_5k-5120x2880.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1)

(https://i1.wp.com/www.dcworld.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/aquaman_justice_league_part_one_hd_5k-5120x2880-1.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1)

(https://i1.wp.com/www.dcworld.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/cyborg_justice_league_hd_5k-7680x4320.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1)

(https://i1.wp.com/www.dcworld.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/the_flash_justice_league_hd_5k-5120x2880.jpg?resize=768%2C432&ssl=1)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 3 Sep 2017, 09:18
As if we didn't know Supes was gonna be alive (even without the poster), the new JL action figures for mass reyail include him. On a side note the figures look a lot better than the BvS toys, including cloth capes to replace the cheap thin plastic POS cape. Have not bought any yet but if anyone else was disappointed with BvS's toys (I refused to even buy Wonder Woman once I found her cause I was so pissed about the money spent on that lousy ass Batsy figure lol) there you go, maybe these will be better. They have regular size figures and 12 inch dolls.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Mon, 4 Sep 2017, 12:49
I just got back from Fan expo in Toronto (Basically the Canadian comic con) and they had these action figures as well as the batmobile on display. Indeed the level of detail is outstanding. But yes supes is featured as well, pretty much giving up the jig that he will return.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 5 Sep 2017, 14:20
New picture of Bats:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DI5AKiSUMAEuIdK.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 01:51
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything but I took some kiddos to Toys R Us this evening and they had ton of cool JL stuff, including one of the tall figures (like 2 feet or whatever) of Superman in a black costume with red eyes. Ugh if he comes back evil I swear....but the black costume was pretty sweet. I read the package to try to see if there were any spoilers but it was a generic Superman bio. And it may be nothing but an alternate look with the red eyes to signify his heat vision, idk. But yeah, if we spent all of BvS trying to prove (to Batman) that he's good and then turn around and make him bad if even temporarily, that'd be kind of stupid. Actually very stupid because it would break Batman's new trust and prove he was right all along and he wouldn't stop until Supes was dead, Martha or no Martha.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 02:01
And yes I know in the comic he had the black costume when he came back to life so it makes sense but I can't shake the worry that they're going to f*** up by making him bad for a little bit and make the League try to defeat him and save him. Which sounds compelling if what I said above didn't happen in BvS.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 02:11
Don't worry, that's just Zombie-Sups. He's hungry for Brainiac.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 03:02
I giggled at that a lot harder than I should have.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 03:48
Yeah given the stakes the JLA is up against, they'd be toast if Supes was against them.

Also as reported on the site, Man of Steel 2 is supposed to be a lighter version of Superman so I can't imagine he'll be evil in that film.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 19 Sep 2017, 13:08
Quote from: Catwoman on Tue, 19 Sep  2017, 01:51
Not sure if this has anything to do with anything but I took some kiddos to Toys R Us this evening and they had ton of cool JL stuff, including one of the tall figures (like 2 feet or whatever) of Superman in a black costume with red eyes. Ugh if he comes back evil I swear....but the black costume was pretty sweet. I read the package to try to see if there were any spoilers but it was a generic Superman bio. And it may be nothing but an alternate look with the red eyes to signify his heat vision, idk. But yeah, if we spent all of BvS trying to prove (to Batman) that he's good and then turn around and make him bad if even temporarily, that'd be kind of stupid. Actually very stupid because it would break Batman's new trust and prove he was right all along and he wouldn't stop until Supes was dead, Martha or no Martha.

I wouldn't read into it too much. Action figure lines always had figurines with features that never appeared in the movies. There was an action figure box set for BvS which included Bats, Supes and Lex Luthor wearing armor similar to the Post-Crisis era. As everybody here knows, Lex never wore any battle armor in BvS.

But for argument's sake, let's say that Superman does return evil for a brief period. Maybe a good way to solve this is Batman, fully regained with hope, trusts Superman in doing the right thing and beat whatever is brainwashing him. A similar idea happened in Justice League: War, when Superman was being brainwashed by Desaad while Darkseid was trying conquer the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxp79tgI9sA

Of course, you don't really see him come to his senses in that clip, he's back to normal when we see him towards the end. Then again, as I still believe, I don't think he'll come back as evil in JL.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 22 Sep 2017, 03:19
I'm hoping we see the black suit, but I'm not sure if we will. And that's a good thing. Superman is an unknown entity in this film. We only know he's going to appear in some fashion. I'm guessing the Codex will factor in somehow. It may be activated by Steppenwolf for his own purposes (supercharge himself or the Parademons to gain Kryptonain powers). Which leads Superman to wake up in a weakened state during this procedure.

What I'd like to see from Superman in JL:

Superman dreaming while in purgatory.
Superman waking up.
Superman reuniting with Lois and Martha Kent.
Superman kicking ass and helping to save the day.
Clark marrying Lois, or at least proposing.

If I even got a couple of those things I'd be satisfied. The waking up and kicking ass scenes are guaranteed. The rest is gravy.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 00:53
I liked this fan art inspired by Alex Ross.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKmQHZiUEAEucYH.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 29 Sep 2017, 06:38
Wow I love that. The AR originals are gorgeous but these are pretty freaking sweet too.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 30 Sep 2017, 01:38
I like the new character posters. They're better than the other JL character posters, and they match the BvS pop art style designs as well. I've merged them all together below. Batman and Aquaman are my favourites from these:

(http://i65.tinypic.com/rkwx6p.png)

With these and the other JL posters, I'm satisfied.

(http://i65.tinypic.com/13yea8w.png)

The Alex Ross poster is #1, and one of the best comic book posters of all time in my opinion.
The JL shield poster is simple and effective, much like the B89 and BR logo posters. I don't have a problem with it.
I like the 'unite' design with the five heroes. I still have a nitpick about Batman's white chest logo, but that's about it.
And the 'Unite the League' poster has grown on me. I think it has pop to it.

All in all, I'm liking the promotion.



Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: GoNerdYourself on Sat, 30 Sep 2017, 14:43
Those character posters would make great slipcover variants and I'd love to see steelbook versions with the Alex Ross poster and even the JL logo. 
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 30 Sep 2017, 20:23
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK4vh2fWkAASuId.jpg:orig)

(https://cdn2.thr.com/sites/default/files/2017/09/wonderwoman_jlvariant_embed.jpg)

(https://cdn2.thr.com/sites/default/files/2017/09/flash_jlvariant_embed.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 1 Oct 2017, 06:25
Totally love those.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 05:56
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 30 Sep  2017, 20:23
(https://cdn2.thr.com/sites/default/files/2017/09/wonderwoman_jlvariant_embed.jpg)

Never get tired of Terry Dodson's Wonder Woman art. Wow!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 06:44
I'd love to have a textless version of the Empire cover drawing. That one is fantastic.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Azrael on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 07:06
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Sat, 30 Sep  2017, 20:23
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK4vh2fWkAASuId.jpg:orig)


My first thought when I saw this

(http://s1.postimg.org/793ti5de1b/justiceleague.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 07:19
Quote from: Azrael on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 07:06
My first thought when I saw this

(http://s1.postimg.org/793ti5de1b/justiceleague.jpg)


That brings all kinds of nostalgic memories of the '90's and picking up the Burton/Schumacher Batman movie comic adaptations.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 12:01
Tony Daniel tweeted his variant cover.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DK10FsGWsAUi81_.jpg:large)

Source: https://twitter.com/TonyDanielx2/status/913513980643221509
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 13:20
Quote from: The Joker on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 07:19
Quote from: Azrael on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 07:06
My first thought when I saw this

(http://s1.postimg.org/793ti5de1b/justiceleague.jpg)


That brings all kinds of nostalgic memories of the '90's and picking up the Burton/Schumacher Batman movie comic adaptations.

I wish they'd revive that tradition. When was the last time DC produced a comic adaption of one of their feature films? I know they published prequel tie-ins for Superman Returns and some of their other more recent movies. But when did they last publish a full-on adaptation? Batman Begins? Have there been any others since?

Anyway, here are some cool new Justice League pics from Empire.

(https://postimg.org/image/6jhppvcswb/)

(https://s1.postimg.org/9en59tpxan/001.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/8iqnudilq7/88248.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/624ffgj7vz/88248_2.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/288fanr2dr/88247.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/4se9nasqq7/88252.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/2157f8apa7/88251.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/2mev1j6vb3/88250.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/1u1zjsujwf/88249.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/9mfvxlel6n/88245.jpg)

(https://s1.postimg.org/6dgs0xqo4f/88246.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 2 Oct 2017, 13:38
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 13:20
(https://s1.postimg.org/1u1zjsujwf/88249.jpg)
Oh boy. I really love this. Outside of Superman's return, I'm hyped for the batcave scene with the other heroes. That's what dreams are made of. Who would have thought we'd ever get such a scene in the films?
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 02:47
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 13:20
Quote from: The Joker on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 07:19
Quote from: Azrael on Mon,  2 Oct  2017, 07:06
My first thought when I saw this

(http://s1.postimg.org/793ti5de1b/justiceleague.jpg)


That brings all kinds of nostalgic memories of the '90's and picking up the Burton/Schumacher Batman movie comic adaptations.

I wish they'd revive that tradition. When was the last time DC produced a comic adaption of one of their feature films? I know they published prequel tie-ins for Superman Returns and some of their other more recent movies. But when did they last publish a full-on adaptation? Batman Begins? Have there been any others since?

(https://s1.postimg.org/6dgs0xqo4f/88246.jpg)[/center]

I hate to be the one to say it but Marvel's been doing it with every MCU movie since phase one- they call them preludes and they're somewhat prequels to the movie but somewhat parts of the movie itself shown from a different character's perspective. And it's easier to get in a character's head in comic format than on film.

I think the Nolan films make it difficult to translate to other media because of how grounded they are. Even if you were to go the route of the Burton/Schumacher comic adaptions, how on earth do you condense the Nolan films with so much dialogue? Batman Begins is the only one which seems like it was marketable in other mediums such as a pretty good video game. I actually think a comic adaptation of the Dark Knight Rises would illustrate how far that movie strayed from the source material. Reading the Burton/Schumacher adaptations still felt like reading a batman comic book. I'm not sure the same could be done for adaptations of TDK or TDKR although losing Bale's voice wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.

I'm not sure why Batman v Superman didn't do it, especially with complaints that many people wanted an Affleck Batman film first before he fought supes, a fair comprimise could have been a prequel comic series from Batman's perspective.

Back to the film at hand, I'm glad Affleck is on board thus far. Every thing I see him in impresses me, I don't think his Batman is as good as Keatons but I do think his balance between Bruce and Batman is the best. All the other actors are good at one or the other. While Suicide Squad underwhelmed, it wasn't because of the scenes Ben was in, he was on his game  again in both roles.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 02:54
(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/justice-empire-1b.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Tue, 3 Oct 2017, 21:48
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue,  3 Oct  2017, 02:54(http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/justice-empire-1b.jpg)
Eeeeeeeeeeenteresting.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Wed, 4 Oct 2017, 17:31
A new trailer is expected for New York Comic-Con this weekend. Meanwhile here are some new character posters. Batfleck looks good in all the promos so far, but I particularly like this one. The pose is dynamic and the coloured lighting brings out the texturing on his cape and cowl. I find this image somewhat evocative of the nineties Batman films.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTmbX6VwAAsDOB.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTnlpCUMAEr0xz.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTotrSUIAAaGVo.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLQkISlVAAAmDIW.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLTlZokUEAMKMGt.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 4 Oct 2017, 23:56
Those are rather nice. They've used the same Alex Ross inspired palette, which I like. The fact they have the emblems at the top, including Superman's shield, leads me to believe they'll give him a character poster at some point. The logos 'light up' when the corresponding hero is standing below as well. The Alex Ross inspired image with all four together is THE image for this film. The rest are just gravy.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Thu, 5 Oct 2017, 01:33
Love those. And I agree Silver about Batsy's kind of reminding us of the 90s movies. Which is a very good thing.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Thu, 5 Oct 2017, 13:20
Quote from: Catwoman on Thu,  5 Oct  2017, 01:33
Love those. And I agree Silver about Batsy's kind of reminding us of the 90s movies. Which is a very good thing.

And we'll have some scores from Danny Elfman although probably not the ones we  all fell in love with.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 08:22
A featurette on the Mercedes Benz cars that feature in Justice League.

Bruce's prototype car has got to be one the coolest I've seen. Zack Snyder saw a vehicle on the Gran Turismo video game and wanted it in the film. This car was just designed for the game and was never a real functioning vehicle.

Zack, you madman genius! Hands down the best Bruce Wayne car of all time.

We also see the footage straight after Barry and Bruce's "what are your super powers again?" scene. And it's fan-funking-tastic. Bruce drives off onto a highway ramp at full speed. And we later see Barry/Bruce and the car on a hydraulic lift with Diana waiting for them on the ground.

Take a look for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVCjhR7ltJM

Oh, and, uh...I also made this GIF because reasons.

(https://gifyu.com/images/Justice_League_Making_of_with_the_E_Class_Cabriolet_Vision_Gran_Turismo.gif)



Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 14:57
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri,  6 Oct  2017, 08:22
Oh, and, uh...I also made this GIF because reasons.

(https://gifyu.com/images/Justice_League_Making_of_with_the_E_Class_Cabriolet_Vision_Gran_Turismo.gif)

(https://s25.postimg.org/iojno8dbz/Cool_Down-_Jean_Claude.gif)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 17:53
Hot Wheels better be on this.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 21:25
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLeBmfsW4AEX-aI.jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Fri, 6 Oct 2017, 23:20
Looking forward to it. I could live without any more trailers but I guess one more isn't too bad.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 13:51
Trailer 3 is up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9-DM9uBtVI&sns=tw
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Catwoman on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 14:51
Hell f***ing yes!

Love it. Love love love.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 14:57
My initial thoughts:

The song choice was perfect.
Seems like they're sticking with the Zimmer Superman theme...as they should.
They also didn't give anything away in regards to Supes, which is great.

I think they're going to have Steppenwolf beat the League members up, only for Superman to return and complete the team. It should be really heartwarming and epic. Think TDK Rises, but this time the final battle against the villain is satisfying.

It seems they're going to address the Knightmare from BvS, and Superman will probably be having visions of his own from inside the casket. As a Batfleck/DCEU supporter who liked BvS, I can honestly say I'm satisfied with where JL is going.

I can't believe it's only a month until the film hits. It's going to be a hard wait.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 19:24
Seriously dig that trailer. The bit with Cavill at the beginning really helps emphasize that MOS, BVS and JL will be a trilogy of sorts for Superman while BVS, WW and JL will be a trilogy for Wonder Woman. I'm guessing BVS, JL and The Batman will be a trilogy for Batman.

Assuming that's all true, I kind of like how BVS is the crux of three different trilogies for three different characters. It's the fulcrum of the entire DCEU up to this point. It's a more innovative way of doing a shared universe than anything we've seen from Marvel lately.

The future looks bright.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sun, 8 Oct 2017, 23:49

I really dug the opening with Lois and Superman.

This cinematic version of Aquaman seems like alot of fun. I like the enthusiastic, happy, roaring warrior archetype a lot.

Batfleck is always aces.

And, of course, Wonder Woman makes me happy.


Really hope to see this opening night.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 00:21
This was a reassuring trailer for the true believers.

It's good to see the updated credits have 'a Zack Snyder film' and 'directed by Zack Snyder'. Whedon gets his credit with the screenplay alongside Chris Terrio. Clickbait BS sites were trying to make us believe an entire film could be reshot and rejigged into something else entirely in the space of a month or so. I'm a skeptical person most of the time, but the studio position on the reshoots simply makes sense.

Every hero is going to get their moment to shine, and Zack really came to the party in terms of mythic visuals. Batman looking at the bat signal while the batwing rises to the rooftop? Wonder Woman standing on the statue, and later flicking up her sword? I love it. I'm expecting the film to be inspirational and enjoyable to watch.

Quote from: The Joker on Sun,  8 Oct  2017, 23:49
And, of course, Wonder Woman makes me happy.

(http://78.media.tumblr.com/46793c59c3b0c0ea0e68b515535bbac5/tumblr_oxik2kORiB1th06apo1_250.gif)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 01:04
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 00:21This was a reassuring trailer for the true believers.

It's good to see the updated credits have 'a Zack Snyder film' and 'directed by Zack Snyder'. Whedon gets his credit with the screenplay alongside Chris Terrio. Clickbait BS sites were trying to make us believe an entire film could be reshot and rejigged into something else entirely in the space of a month or so. I'm a skeptical person most of the time, but the studio position on the reshoots simply makes sense.
The more I think about it, the more I can't help thinking that Snyder might've left because of his child's death... but the decision to leave was that much easier precisely because the "fans" have been such a-holes. There's only so much crap anybody can take. I wouldn't be surprised if he just doesn't have the will to put up with the abuse anymore. The online jerks obviously broke George Lucas. I wouldn't be surprised if they broke Zack Snyder too.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 02:20
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 01:04
The more I think about it, the more I can't help thinking that Snyder might've left because of his child's death... but the decision to leave was that much easier precisely because the "fans" have been such a-holes.
There's such a hateful tone against the DCEU. The narrative is that Wonder Woman is the only decent film in the franchise, MoS was disappointing and BvS a train-wreck. The haters can't get over their anti Zack Snyder bias, nor can they get over the fact DC didn't copy Marvel's exact template before creating a Justice League film. These people don't want the DC films to be a success for those two core reasons. Along with the fact Nolan lovers want to tear down his immediate replacement. I don't think there's such a thing as being the 'bigger man'. Being the 'bigger man' means you get walked over. You hold your tongue and the slobs mouth off while you say nothing. Nah. Punching back is the way to go. The anti-DCEU crowd can go to hell.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 03:14
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 02:20I don't think there's such a thing as being the 'bigger man'. Being the 'bigger man' means you get walked over. You hold your tongue and the slobs mouth off while you say nothing. Nah. Punching back is the way to go. The anti-DCEU crowd can go to hell.
This. But unfortunately Snyder is in the business of cultivating public opinion and selling tickets. If he speaks his mind, some dippy online tabloid will call it a "celebrity meltdown". Heads he loses, tails he loses.

I try not to pity millionaires... but what Snyder has been put through really is over the line.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 03:35
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 03:14
If he speaks his mind, some dippy online tabloid will call it a "celebrity meltdown". Heads he loses, tails he loses.
Yep. Whenever someone lays it all out and goes against the 'accepted' agenda, their comments are called a 'rant', 'bizarre' and 'unhinged'. Always. But if the comments conform to the safe company line, they're praised as courageous, bold and fearless. Screw em.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 10:22
I said before I wouldn't watch any more footage after the second trailer, and I stand by it. I've seen Clark Kent in the screenshots but no more. I plan to watch the film next month without seeing any footage I haven't seen before. I wish we could go back to the days of only showing one trailer for a movie before it comes out.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 02:20
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 01:04
The more I think about it, the more I can't help thinking that Snyder might've left because of his child's death... but the decision to leave was that much easier precisely because the "fans" have been such a-holes.
There's such a hateful tone against the DCEU. The narrative is that Wonder Woman is the only decent film in the franchise, MoS was disappointing and BvS a train-wreck. The haters can't get over their anti Zack Snyder bias, nor can they get over the fact DC didn't copy Marvel's exact template before creating a Justice League film. These people don't want the DC films to be a success for those two core reasons. Along with the fact Nolan lovers want to tear down his immediate replacement. I don't think there's such a thing as being the 'bigger man'. Being the 'bigger man' means you get walked over. You hold your tongue and the slobs mouth off while you say nothing. Nah. Punching back is the way to go. The anti-DCEU crowd can go to hell.

The doubling down by the media, both mainstream and geek, for their condemnation of Zack Snyder following BvS's release definitely reached a breaking point of unreasonable proportions. When it comes to comparing the DCEU to the MCU or hating the dark tone of Snyder's first two films but giving Nolan a pass, I get the impression there is some massive groupthink going on there. 

But that looks absolutely innocent compared to the immoral behaviour by a lot of these bloggers. What disgusted me the most was some of the slander written on Twitter i.e. making baseless accusations that Snyder is a misogynist, hating his mother etc. Not because of any proof, but because they didn't like his movies.

Well, the irony is sweet because lately, dozens of women have been coming forward by accusing AND exposing people in the geek community like Devin Faraci, Harry Knowles and Andy Signore (Honest Trailers creator) for being perverts. Strangely, a lot of these loud Snyder detractors have been very silent when it came to true misogynistic behaviour by their fellow colleagues. It's an utter disgrace.

If I didn't know better, I'd be sure there's a correlation between the lack of professionalism here, and the way the so-called 'fans' have carried on. In any case, Snyder is being the bigger man by not lashing out at these people.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 10:45
Zack Snyder is my favorite director. He's the comic book GOAT in terms of adapting icons and capturing mood. If anyone isn't on board with that idea they're dead to me - I have no time for their crap. The fact he gets such hate thrown his way only serves to strengthen my support and appreciation for this under appreciated  talent. Don't be afraid of being outnumbered. A lion walks alone while the sheep flock together. I'm hoping Zack attends the premiere and gets a round of applause.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Mon, 9 Oct 2017, 21:08
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon,  9 Oct  2017, 10:22Well, the irony is sweet because lately, dozens of women have been coming forward by accusing AND exposing people in the geek community like Devin Faraci, Harry Knowles and Andy Signore (Honest Trailers creator) for being perverts. Strangely, a lot of these loud Snyder detractors have been very silent when it came to true misogynistic behaviour by their fellow colleagues. It's an utter disgrace.
I hadn't heard about Knowles. Did a Google search and found that Variety article about him. To be fair, I never had much respect for him in the first place. And it's always bugged TF out of me that he's been the de facto face of "Internet fandom" for over twenty years.

It bugs me even more now that he's apparently some kind of sicko.

Still, we can be grateful that a light is being shined on this stuff now. It looks like more celebrities and stars are speaking out against Harvey Weinstein. But let's cut the crap, (A) he'll get away with it and (B) he's just the tip of the iceberg anyway in Hollyweird. All the major studios would be forced to close their doors if the LAPD donut-eaters ever get off their butts and arrest every rapist, groper and child-molester in the business.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Tue, 10 Oct 2017, 14:23
I wouldn't call myself a Snyder fan. 300 is just not my cup of tea and I didn't like Watchmen. I felt Man of Steel was a let down and while I enjoyed BvS, I feel it could have gone better. But I am absolutely ashamed reading some of these awful rumours people are stating in the wake of his family tragedy. Full respects for Snyder for walking away and not firing back like Paul Feig did with it's Girlbusters.

I feel bad for people like the extreme Nolan fans, Marvel fans, Bale fans, or Snyder who are going into this film hoping for it to fail. That shows a lot of hate to root for a movie to fail. If you don't like what they're doing, don't watch but I just don't get people who follow a film's development rooting for failure every step of the way.  If you think a film is going to be awful then the solution is simple- don't watch. Instead some people take it upon themselves to be anti-marketing campaigns towards a film.

I'm actually glad the IMDB boards aren't up and running, I could only imagine the nonsense that would be written about Snyder.

With respect to the DCEU, this is huge for them. There is a notion that Wonder Woman turning out to be so successful is a bad thing for the DCEU as it sets the bar too high. To me that depends if it can be attained or not. WB has a blueprint of their own on how to make a successful superhero film without following Nolan's rules of making everything grounded  and humourless. I think it's obvious from the trailers that there is no more "No humour rule", compared to Man of Steel which gave us a grant total of ONE reason to laugh (the female soldier calling Supes hot). That's what I'm most excited about, DC is finally getting back to fun and letting loose.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Tue, 10 Oct 2017, 21:56
I couldn't stomach 300... but maybe if I watched it today I'd like it better.

But otherwise I dig Snyder's work. Dawn of the Dead is a remake if you want it to be or a parallel story. Watchmen is a masterpiece. Sucker Punch subverts its own concept while at the same time indulging in. Good fun! MOS was a breath of fresh air. BVS was Super Friends by way of Wagner. I haven't seen the rest of his stuff though.

But still, the guy is a great talent.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 01:05
300 is a fun movie. If the weak can't stomach that level of awesome, that's a shame. It's a slideshow of great visuals, dark humor and visceral action. I recommend a rewatch. The sequel did have Eva Green, but apart from that, it didn't stack up to the original. But the real star of his resume is Watchmen. I think it's his best film overall these days. I dismissed it years ago for whatever reason, but I was wrong to do so. Love it.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 01:35
Snyder's filmography is pretty fantastic, and yeah, Watchmen is awesome! Not only did Snyder adapt a highly praised story into a time-condensed movie (with alot of naysayers proclaiming it couldn't be done), but also succeeded in the film being a worthy cinematic adaption at that. The guy's got talent.

I hope to see Snyder return to the DCEU someday. For purely selfish reasons of course. I enjoy the guy's work, and his zest for the material is abundantly clear. Even if it's way down the line, and in a less high profile/self contained story. Given his works on the Dawn of the Dead remake, and 300, I'm sure something like a Snyder-helmed Lobo movie would be one hell of a fun ride.

Speaking of Eva Green, she needs to be in Wonder Woman 2 with Gal. This needs to happen. Cheetah, or Circe. The choice is hers. Just make it happen WB.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 03:26
I think the best case scenario is that should Justice League be a success, that will get the critics off Snyder's back and even retroactively making BvS a better film once the next piece of the puzzle is revealed. I don't see why he can't return some day.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Oct 2017, 23:38
Quote from: riddler on Wed, 11 Oct  2017, 03:26I think the best case scenario is that should Justice League be a success, that will get the critics off Snyder's back and even retroactively making BvS a better film once the next piece of the puzzle is revealed. I don't see why he can't return some day.
The guy has been working non-stop since, what, 2003? He's gone straight from one movie to another for a long time now.

But aside from the workload... honestly, there's only so much anybody can take. The Internet broke George Lucas. He scraped together every dime he had to his name to make Episode I. He risked everything on making a movie that he wanted people to love. And calling him a rapist was arguably the first Internet meme.

People can love or hate the Star Wars prequels. But looking back at it, it's tough to argue that he didn't get abused. When news came out that he was selling Lucasfilm, I couldn't blame him. Seriously, who needs the grief? He said more than once that he would've created 7, 8 and 9 himself... but why should be put himself out there as a target? He was legally obligated to release Episodes II and III but I think he finished the series with a bad taste in his mouth.

To go back to Snyder, the guy has gotten dogged harder and harder with every movie he's released. "Sticks and stone may break my bones but words can never hurt me" was probably coined by someone surrounded by gushing admirers. I don't know if Snyder has gotten it quite as bad as George Lucas but he's gotten a pretty bad deal. And all because he wanted to make movies that entertain people.

Like I said here or in some other thread, I wouldn't be surprised if his child's death isn't a convenient excuse for walking away from all the abuse. And I wouldn't blame him either.

Snyder's work has been discussed on this page. But the differences are (A) he's gotten treated pretty well here mostly because a lot of us have enjoyed his work (B) the discussion is limited only to the man's work rather than calling his maternal ancestry, personal hygiene and likely destination in the afterlife into question and (C) the gripes people have brought up are nothing personal and mostly are totally valid.

Anyway.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 09:10
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Oct  2017, 23:38
People can love or hate the Star Wars prequels. But looking back at it, it's tough to argue that he didn't get abused. When news came out that he was selling Lucasfilm, I couldn't blame him. Seriously, who needs the grief? He said more than once that he would've created 7, 8 and 9 himself... but why should be put himself out there as a target? He was legally obligated to release Episodes II and III but I think he finished the series with a bad taste in his mouth.
The Phantom Menace gets way too much hate. It's a fun adventure film that introduced new worlds, new vehicles, new characters and had exciting and innovative action. Compare that to The Force Awakens. Lucas' 1999 film was familiar but different, and I like that approach. Revenge of the Sith could easily be my favorite film in the saga. It's the crux of everything. It's the most complex, most emotional and most traumatic chapter....hands down. Attack of the Clones is the prequel film that I don't really connect with. But again, in comparison to The Force Awakens, Lucas did new things and had rather interesting galactic scheming/politics lingering in the background. Nothing is going to touch the original trilogy for me, but the prequels just aren't deserving of the backlash. They're underrated.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Azrael on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 10:54
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 12 Oct  2017, 09:10
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Oct  2017, 23:38
People can love or hate the Star Wars prequels. But looking back at it, it's tough to argue that he didn't get abused. When news came out that he was selling Lucasfilm, I couldn't blame him. Seriously, who needs the grief? He said more than once that he would've created 7, 8 and 9 himself... but why should be put himself out there as a target? He was legally obligated to release Episodes II and III but I think he finished the series with a bad taste in his mouth.
The Phantom Menace gets way too much hate. It's a fun adventure film that introduced new worlds, new vehicles, new characters and had exciting and innovative action. Compare that to The Force Awakens. Lucas' 1999 film was familiar but different, and I like that approach. Revenge of the Sith could easily be my favorite film in the saga. It's the crux of everything. It's the most complex, most emotional and most traumatic chapter....hands down. Attack of the Clones is the prequel film that I don't really connect with. But again, in comparison to The Force Awakens, Lucas did new things and had rather interesting galactic scheming/politics lingering in the background. Nothing is going to touch the original trilogy for me, but the prequels just aren't deserving of the backlash. They're underrated.

QFT
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 11:11
Quote from: riddler on Tue, 10 Oct  2017, 14:23
I feel bad for people like the extreme Nolan fans, Marvel fans, Bale fans, or Snyder who are going into this film hoping for it to fail. That shows a lot of hate to root for a movie to fail. If you don't like what they're doing, don't watch but I just don't get people who follow a film's development rooting for failure every step of the way.  If you think a film is going to be awful then the solution is simple- don't watch. Instead some people take it upon themselves to be anti-marketing campaigns towards a film.

Out of all the groups you listed, the one that have profoundly disappointed me most are the Marvel fanboys. I thought the Nolanites were unique in their blind, rabid fandom. But the last year and a half have taught me Marvel have their share as well. Sadly, I've come to realise when it comes to groups, comic book fans are brainless sheep. Childish, arrogant, and always needing to cling onto critical reception for validation. And I really despise this Marvel vs DC attitude people have, and the media certainly influences it. This isn't team sport, people.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 11 Oct  2017, 23:38
The guy has been working non-stop since, what, 2003? He's gone straight from one movie to another for a long time now.

But aside from the workload... honestly, there's only so much anybody can take. The Internet broke George Lucas. He scraped together every dime he had to his name to make Episode I. He risked everything on making a movie that he wanted people to love. And calling him a rapist was arguably the first Internet meme.

George Lucas getting called a rapist is certainly terrible. But do I need to remind you how a lot of people took pleasure over the news that Zack Snyder decided to step down from finishing Justice League because of his daughter's death? Whether they're nobodies, so-called "professional" critics, scumbag bottom-feeding bloggers, or even comic personalities (looking at you Gerry Conway), it's shows a remarkable lack of morality and human decency. All because they were upset over something as innocuous as a movie. These people have no souls.

The worst thing is Snyder knew that people on the internet were going to spread gossip about him leaving had to do with the supposed quality of the film. That's why he tried to keep working and not make the tragedy public, until he could no longer bear with it any more.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Wayne49 on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 13:40
Justice League has a bigger PR problem coming. What a mess with only five weeks to go.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/2017/10/11/grope-allegation-batman-ben-affleck-tank-justice-league/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/2017/10/12/ben-affleck-dubbed-buttman-groping-allegations-emerge/
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 14:05
I saw this. The Hilarie Burton thing happened back in 2003, when Affleck's behaviour was much more notorious back in those days.

Here's the footage here, with Burton herself appeared to laugh about the thing in a snippet from an interview. What's strange to me is how pretty candid it is. You can't even see if he's actually groping her in that footage (fun fact: Burton is romantically involved with Jeffrey Dean Morgan, who played Thomas Wayne in BvS).

https://youtu.be/Ajkv9plK6-E

This sounds like a storm in a teacup. That other accusation on Twitter, on the other hand...well, either she's telling the truth and she wants to put Affleck back in his place for his condemnation of the Weinstein scandal, or she's lying for attention.

Another interview from thirteen years ago was used as an example, but the presenter Anne-Marie Lisoque claims this is being taken out of context.
http://epicstream.com/news/TV-Host-Says-Her-Interview-With-Ben-Affleck-Is-Being-Taken-Out-Of-Context

Apart from that one Twitter claim, I don't see much that's going on here. I think it's a little premature to assume it's 'a PR disaster' for JL. Unless there are much more serious allegations against Affleck with substance behind them, I'm not exactly too worried.

Besides, given that Breitbart has a negative reputation, I find their credibility to be dubious on reporting this. But then again, WHO can you trust in today's media?
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Wayne49 on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 14:46
I guess the lasting affect is how much discourse bubbles up from other actresses. If more continue to come out, then clearly there is an underlying resentment that paints a picture none too flattering. I think if the damage stays with these two individuals then this may be a non-story in five weeks. The other factor is how well this movie registers with critics. If it gets bad reviews then it becomes human nature to pile on, which means the allegations will creep into the final analysis. If the reviews are good, then perhaps that will soften this story and all of this will fall by the wayside. Too early to know how all of this will play, but it goes without saying, the WB brass can not be enjoying the distraction with the massive promotion they have invested in this. Allot riding on this movie.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 21:35
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 12 Oct  2017, 11:11
Quote from: riddler on Tue, 10 Oct  2017, 14:23
I feel bad for people like the extreme Nolan fans, Marvel fans, Bale fans, or Snyder who are going into this film hoping for it to fail. That shows a lot of hate to root for a movie to fail. If you don't like what they're doing, don't watch but I just don't get people who follow a film's development rooting for failure every step of the way.  If you think a film is going to be awful then the solution is simple- don't watch. Instead some people take it upon themselves to be anti-marketing campaigns towards a film.

Out of all the groups you listed, the one that have profoundly disappointed me most are the Marvel fanboys. I thought the Nolanites were unique in their blind, rabid fandom. But the last year and a half have taught me Marvel have their share as well. Sadly, I've come to realise when it comes to groups, comic book fans are brainless sheep. Childish, arrogant, and always needing to cling onto critical reception for validation. And I really despise this Marvel vs DC attitude people have, and the media certainly influences it. This isn't team sport, people.

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The worst thing is Snyder knew that people on the internet were going to spread gossip about him leaving had to do with the supposed quality of the film. That's why he tried to keep working and not make the tragedy public, until he could no longer bear with it any more.

I should clarify too, the last group I listed, I meant to write Snyder HATERS. I hate the Marvel vs. DC debates. No matter how you slice it, Marvel and DC are far more similar to each other than people care to admit, just look at some of the big names who have worked for both companies. Stan Lee and Bob Kane were such great fans, they rode in the same limo to the premier of Batman 89, they didn't feel the need to trash the other side. There's extreme groups on both sides, DC isn't immune to rabid fan boys either, I've read quite a bit of nonsense from that camp as to why the Avengers was an awful film. Even the Burton/Keaton bat-fans have our share of rotten eggs. Sure the Nolan side is infinitely worse but our side has our faults too. The reality is anyone can be objective and anyone can be biased.

Speaking of Nolanites, if you are wondering if they gave up on manipulating IMDB ratings once the message boards got shut down, it looks like no. Dunkirk currently has 224 thousand total votes good for #89 on the IMDB. Lawrence of Arabia which sits 5 spots higher and has been out for 55 years has fewer total votes than Dunkirk which hasn't even hit home video yet.

comic wise DC has been kicking the crap out of Marvel this decade. On the big screen Marvel is dominating, and on TV they are about equal. But you have to acknowledge, both sides push each other to be better. I see DC fans hoping Marvel comics goes bankrupt, that is a foolish thing to wish for because it will mean a drop in quality for DC comics too.You're right, it does almost feel like a sports debate sometimes the way some people blindly defend /criticize. These are the people that have their votes of either 1 or 10 lined up and ready to go
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Thu, 12 Oct 2017, 23:02
The way Affleck tells it, his hands wandered a little too much but that died out relatively quickly. My view is people really should keep their hands to themselves but it isn't like Affleck is guilty of, say, Harvey Weinstein or Bryan Singer's types of perversion.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 01:01

Now with the floodgates opening in Hollywood, much of their sanctimonious bullsh*t of having the moral high ground, and preaching in what's politically 'right' and 'wrong' has been unequivocally exposed as the farce it always has been.

With Affleck, the video bothers me about as much as the Trump Access Hollywood Tape. Which is not very much at all. Considering his history,  thinking Affleck's probably gone out more than once acting like the guy from Fashionable Male looking for some touch and grab isn't really too difficult to imagine. In this case, I'm sure the hyper disavowing from Hollywood will be at a minimum. His heart was in the right place even though his hands weren't.

At this point I kind of wish Harvey Weinstein would just be like, "Screw it" and write a tell all book with all the gory details about his decades in the business, including a full list of all the actresses he's had on the 'casting couch' (boy that phrase has been normalized over the years hasn't it? Even Hollywood, during their patting themselves on the back ceremonies make jokes about it) and gave roles to in return. Talk about one hell of a blow to the culture war. If anything, it would surely cement his legacy as the GOAT Hollywood scumbag. Perhaps even Bill Clinton looks at Weinstein and thinks, "G*ddamn, that's one sleazy son of a b*tch."
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 12:27
Quote from: The Joker on Sat, 14 Oct  2017, 01:01
Now with the floodgates opening in Hollywood, much of their sanctimonious bullsh*t of having the moral high ground, and preaching in what's politically 'right' and 'wrong' has been unequivocally exposed as the farce it always has been.

With Affleck, the video bothers me about as much as the Trump Access Hollywood Tape. Which is not very much at all. Considering his history,  thinking Affleck's probably gone out more than once acting like the guy from Fashionable Male looking for some touch and grab isn't really too difficult to imagine. In this case, I'm sure the hyper disavowing from Hollywood will be at a minimum. His heart was in the right place even though his hands weren't.

At this point I kind of wish Harvey Weinstein would just be like, "Screw it" and write a tell all book with all the gory details about his decades in the business, including a full list of all the actresses he's had on the 'casting couch' (boy that phrase has been normalized over the years hasn't it? Even Hollywood, during their patting themselves on the back ceremonies make jokes about it) and gave roles to in return. Talk about one hell of a blow to the culture war. If anything, it would surely cement his legacy as the GOAT Hollywood scumbag. Perhaps even Bill Clinton looks at Weinstein and thinks, "G*ddamn, that's one sleazy son of a b*tch."

Hollywood lost the moral high ground when the Oscars awarded the child rapist Roman Polanski for Best Director back in 2003. To add further insult to injury, every celebrity in the crowd stood up, cheered and clapped. Disgraceful. But they have their favourites, and this Weinstein guy isn't the first and last deviant who worked there.

The whole thing stinks. Rose McGowan, who was subjected to Weinstein's abuse, took it on Twitter to accuse male actors, including Ben Affleck and Matt Damon (if I can remember), for knowing what Weinstein was doing and did nothing. Twitter suspended her account, which lead to people trying to start a boycott against the site as a show for solidarity and support for McGowan. I'd be have sympathy for her...except she once worked with a director called Victor Salva, a convicted pedophile, and even DEFENDED him.
Source: https://medium.com/codyngore/the-problem-with-rose-mcgowan-f5b5ae837894

It's this sort of two-faced rubbish that makes me doubt that anybody who is honorable works in Hollywood. Anyway, back to Justice League... :-[
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Sat, 14 Oct 2017, 23:18
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 14 Oct  2017, 12:27

Hollywood lost the moral high ground when the Oscars awarded the child rapist Roman Polanski for Best Director back in 2003. To add further insult to injury, every celebrity in the crowd stood up, cheered and clapped. Disgraceful. But they have their favourites, and this Weinstein guy isn't the first and last deviant who worked there.

Kinda like the fairly recent Meryl Steep BS virtue lecture on having the moral high ground over the President at the Golden Globes. Isn't she a buddy of Polanski as well? Hilarious stuff.
Though it did atleast provide Gibson and Vaughn giving her the classic "WTF are you going on about?" look. 

(https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--TuxSYIAz--/c_scale,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/xqo9d5mjmjdjh46ramd0.gif)

;D

Anyways, yeah, back to Justice League.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNsQzBIN2jU

(https://s25.postimg.org/5ornx4rgv/Comic_JL_Day.jpg)

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 04:44
At least I didn't bring a pitch fork.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 08:42
Quote from: riddler on Sun, 15 Oct  2017, 04:44
At least I didn't bring a pitch fork.
I found that line pretty funny, because he's joking but he's not. There's always an element of truth to what Batman says. He's still holding onto his inner rebel. They're handling his interactions with the League very well from what I've seen.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 14:46
I have no issue with Batman telling a joke providing it fits into the plot instead of stopping the plot for a joke the way Schumacher did. It seems Arthur and Bruce are going to be at odds coming from different worlds while Barry and Bruce seem to hit it off better.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Sun, 15 Oct 2017, 14:53
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun, 15 Oct  2017, 08:42
Quote from: riddler on Sun, 15 Oct  2017, 04:44
At least I didn't bring a pitch fork.
I found that line pretty funny, because he's joking but he's not. There's always an element of truth to what Batman says. He's still holding onto his inner rebel. They're handling his interactions with the League very well from what I've seen.
True. And they're striving for a bit lighter tone. Apparently the fanboy griping didn't fall on deaf ears.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 18 Oct 2017, 20:58
New poster:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMbhx3aX0AI4PjU?format=jpg)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: thecolorsblend on Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 02:49
I like the blue tone of Batman's outfit there. Well done! And long overdue.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 03:20
The new poster is okay, but it's not my my favorite. Love Wonder Woman's hair though. Aquaman has nothing on that.

Snyder is going to be releasing behind the scenes photos over the next month on Vero. He also shared storyboards of the Clark sequence which was first revealed in the third trailer. Any idea that the studio ditched his vision and reshot everything continues to fall apart. Studios don't hand out sole directorial credit as feel good gestures - it's something you have to earn.

The tone was always going to be lighter, but I admire how Snyder doubled down on certain things.

Offended by Batman machine gunning foes in BvS? Snyder added even more guns, along with a cannon and missiles.
Offended by the dark environments? Snyder gave us literal hell on Earth with red skies and lightning.

The action has the same impressive aesthetic.
The shell falling to the ground is pure Snyder - he used the same visual during the Wayne murders and Superman's funeral.

All in all, there's one month to go. I'll be doing a midnight screening as soon as tickets become available.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 05:03

Just found out at my local theater that they will be giving out freebie JL movie mini posters for the early screenings.

They did the same thing with Wonder Woman. Hope I can pick one up!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Thu, 19 Oct 2017, 17:53
A few new scenes. It's based off of Flash. I'm really liking what we're seeing of him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=mP23BBlED-o

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Fri, 20 Oct 2017, 12:53
I'm excited that we're getting a solo Flash. I like the TV show but am finding it gets bogged down with the whole "team Flash" concept limiting the title character. I like how it seems we're getting a Flash who has flaws and doesn't have all the answers.

I realize Barry Allen should be older but I'm digging his portrayal so far as the quirky kid starting out.

I'm glad they're taking Aquaman seriously and using the Flash more for the comic relief. I look forward to a rivalry between Aquaman and Batman.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Tue, 24 Oct 2017, 04:27
If Justice League is two hours long, I'm kinda surprised but not sorely disappointed.

Guardians of the Galaxy was 2 hours 2 mins. Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are all about two hours long, and I love them to bits. Those aren't epic runtimes and I found the pacing fine. So let's keep our cool here.

Apparently it's been said JL was never going to be a long film. Someone visited the set and Snyder apparently told them this. I guess that makes sense in terms of creating a more streamlined plot and accommodating more screenings to help the BO.

Word around the campfire is an extended edition on home video will happen, so that makes me feel better as well. But perhaps it won't be a massive lengthening of the film, and instead be something like Suicide Squad's extended cut.

It would be something to look forward to considering the only DCEU film next year is Aquaman in December.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 24 Oct 2017, 05:50
As long as they don't repeat the mistake of cutting out 30 minutes of important footage from theatrical cut, as they did with BvS, I'm not bothered if they're condensing JL to two hours.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Tue, 24 Oct 2017, 12:44
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 24 Oct  2017, 04:27
If Justice League is two hours long, I'm kinda surprised but not sorely disappointed.

Guardians of the Galaxy was 2 hours 2 mins. Batman, Batman Returns, Batman Forever and Batman & Robin are all about two hours long, and I love them to bits. Those aren't epic runtimes and I found the pacing fine. So let's keep our cool here.

Apparently it's been said JL was never going to be a long film. Someone visited the set and Snyder apparently told them this. I guess that makes sense in terms of creating a more streamlined plot and accommodating more screenings to help the BO.

Word around the campfire is an extended edition on home video will happen, so that makes me feel better as well. But perhaps it won't be a massive lengthening of the film, and instead be something like Suicide Squad's extended cut.

It would be something to look forward to considering the only DCEU film next year is Aquaman in December.

Remember how much things have changed, Justice League was initially intended to be two parts with the second part next year. I'm excited for the film but I'm a little bit concerned that two movies are getting crammed into two hours. I echo the statement that I hope the cut content is not critical content. It's a bad sign if they continue to release home video versions better than the theatrical releases.
With respect to next year's slate, the Flash movie was initially slated for 2018 but pushed back to 2020. What times we're in now, when we're upset about only getting one DC film next year! Luckily we'll have three from Marvel to balance it out.

Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Silver Nemesis on Tue, 24 Oct 2017, 15:01
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jDuOjz2T20

Recognise a familiar face at the 13 second mark?

(https://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/articles/banners/154745.jpg)

Several sites are reporting it's Marc McClure, the actor who played Jimmy Olsen in the Chris Reeve movies and the 1984 Supergirl film, as well as Dax-Ur in Smallville.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e662302cd4a99e53e3832038b3284a61?width=1024)

Might we see further cameos from other former DC actors?
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Wed, 25 Oct 2017, 12:22
Quote from: Silver Nemesis on Tue, 24 Oct  2017, 15:01


Recognise a familiar face at the 13 second mark?

(https://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/articles/banners/154745.jpg)

Several sites are reporting it's Marc McClure, the actor who played Jimmy Olsen in the Chris Reeve movies and the 1984 Supergirl film, as well as Dax-Ur in Smallville.

(http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/e662302cd4a99e53e3832038b3284a61?width=1024)

Might we see further cameos from other former DC actors?

That's Marty McFly's brother Dave!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Thu, 26 Oct 2017, 01:13
My fellow el duderinos, these two new posters are FIRE.

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2iqimgh.png)

I like the one on the left as much as the Alex Ross style design. Classy, mythic....golden!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Wayne49 on Fri, 27 Oct 2017, 10:39
Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 19 Oct  2017, 17:53
A few new scenes. It's based off of Flash. I'm really liking what we're seeing of him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=mP23BBlED-o

My whole problem with the Flash is just about every line feels like it's intended to be a joke. And if it stretches thin just in a trailer, then I can only imagine how irritating he'll become in the whole movie. I sure hope he is not just this comic relief buffoon. The Flash deserves  more dignity than that. So far the movie trailers are playing the way I feared which is an over correction of BVS. Everything is now a one-liner.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Fri, 27 Oct 2017, 14:12
Quote from: Wayne49 on Fri, 27 Oct  2017, 10:39
Quote from: Travesty on Thu, 19 Oct  2017, 17:53
A few new scenes. It's based off of Flash. I'm really liking what we're seeing of him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=mP23BBlED-o

My whole problem with the Flash is just about every line feels like it's intended to be a joke. And if it stretches thin just in a trailer, then I can only imagine how irritating he'll become in the whole movie. I sure hope he is not just this comic relief buffoon. The Flash deserves  more dignity than that. So far the movie trailers are playing the way I feared which is an over correction of BVS. Everything is now a one-liner.

There's a shot in one of the trailers of Barry visiting his father in jail so at least that aspect of the character will be taken seriously. I'm not going to complaining about DC sprinkling a little more fun and humour after the Nolan films/Man of Steel.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 27 Oct 2017, 23:48
Quote from: Wayne49 on Fri, 27 Oct  2017, 10:39
My whole problem with the Flash is just about every line feels like it's intended to be a joke. And if it stretches thin just in a trailer, then I can only imagine how irritating he'll become in the whole movie. I sure hope he is not just this comic relief buffoon. The Flash deserves  more dignity than that. So far the movie trailers are playing the way I feared which is an over correction of BVS. Everything is now a one-liner.

That's been a concern ever since the "DC's too dark! Not enough humor!" derangement syndrome doubling down following BvS. That WB would go too far with it, and thus the weight of whatever the magnitude of a battle/war that's focused upon ultimately being diminished due to constant one liners being spout out at a consistent basis. MCU has a pretty unchanging formula in that regard, but in terms of WB, they have had a variety of successful films throughout their history of adapting comic books to films, that didn't adhere to that sort of approach, and I really don't think going too far left with it is really necessary either. The latest example being Wonder Woman. A film that had moments of levity, but was brave enough to take the lore and itself seriously enough that one liners and humor wasn't at all required every few minutes. What a relief! 

So far from what I've seen of Flash, he's essentially Wally West using Barry's name (and the father in prison schtick). I'm sure he's going to come across as the most intentionally comedic and untrained out of the bunch, and will probably save face by saving everyone's necks during the latter half of the film.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Sat, 28 Oct 2017, 08:11
Quote from: The Joker on Fri, 27 Oct  2017, 23:48
So far from what I've seen of Flash, he's essentially Wally West using Barry's name (and the father in prison schtick). I'm sure he's going to come across as the most intentionally comedic and untrained out of the bunch, and will probably save face by saving everyone's necks during the latter half of the film.
Yep. I like what I've seen from the Flash. A cheery youngster in a red costume needing guidance from an experienced crimefighter. It's basically what the Robin/Batman relationship is all about. Bottom line, just agree with whatever Joker says. He's gonna be right. That goes for me too.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: ObserveCreativeSoul on Mon, 30 Oct 2017, 19:06
As a part of Justice League's European tour (for non-U.S. participants), Ben Affleck (Batman/Bruce Wayne) himself wanted all admirers & experts to participate in this special #BatmanWeek #JoinTheLeague contest on Instagram. Mr. Affleck's assignment is simple: "Show me where you gather YOUR LEAGUE."

(https://i.imgur.com/zTJ7K3M.gif)

This is what I decided to create:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4q6VikD6SI

That was my idea: that there is ONE strange individual who is not only ready to ACCEPT Mr. Affleck's challenge, but he is also dying to JOIN the Justice League without actually having any intention of GATHERING it. His name is very well-known... Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!

Enjoy! :D #MarketingCanBeSoFuuun
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 1 Nov 2017, 11:37
Quote from: ObserveCreativeSoul on Mon, 30 Oct  2017, 19:06
As a part of Justice League's European tour (for non-U.S. participants), Ben Affleck (Batman/Bruce Wayne) himself wanted all admirers & experts to participate in this special #BatmanWeek #JoinTheLeague contest on Instagram. Mr. Affleck's assignment is simple: "Show me where you gather YOUR LEAGUE."

(https://i.imgur.com/zTJ7K3M.gif)

This is what I decided to create:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4q6VikD6SI

That was my idea: that there is ONE strange individual who is not only ready to ACCEPT Mr. Affleck's challenge, but he is also dying to JOIN the Justice League without actually having any intention of GATHERING it. His name is very well-known... Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!

Enjoy! :D #MarketingCanBeSoFuuun


Very nice!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Wed, 1 Nov 2017, 13:46

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 28 Oct  2017, 08:11
Yep. I like what I've seen from the Flash. A cheery youngster in a red costume needing guidance from an experienced crimefighter. It's basically what the Robin/Batman relationship is all about. Bottom line, just agree with whatever Joker says. He's gonna be right. That goes for me too.

(https://s25.postimg.org/vpn0iuflr/Cheers.gif)


Quote from: ObserveCreativeSoul on Mon, 30 Oct  2017, 19:06
This is what I decided to create:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4q6VikD6SI

That was my idea: that there is ONE strange individual who is not only ready to ACCEPT Mr. Affleck's challenge, but he is also dying to JOIN the Justice League without actually having any intention of GATHERING it. His name is very well-known... Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha!

Enjoy! :D #MarketingCanBeSoFuuun

Cool. Very cool.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: ObserveCreativeSoul on Thu, 2 Nov 2017, 08:10
The Laughing Fish and The Joker, thank you very much, I really appreciate that! Hopefully, Matt Reeves will reunite both of them at some point & maybe we will get some grandiose confrontation out of that too (fingers crossed: if it's done in the style of the Killing Joke, A Death in the Family or Frank Miller's TDKR, then I would be one very happy individual).

I honestly think that Leto's Joker has this untapped potential that, if used accordingly and in the right hands (unlike what David Ayer did to him in Squad by cutting out/rushing most of his scenes & writing the script for the film in two weeks, which, if you are not someone like Aaron Sorkin or Shane Black, is a bad move), could turn out to be something truly phenomenal & beautiful. At this point, I would rather see Mr. J appearing in The Batman film as opposed to Ficarra/Requa's Mad Love spin-off & Gotham City Sirens or any other DCEU property.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Thu, 2 Nov 2017, 11:47

If anyone had a yearning for GIF's of the JL Face motion posters, here ya go.

(http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/8a/81/3c/48d955644683563.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/48d955644683563) (http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/c0/29/35/d1e17e644685453.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/d1e17e644685453) (http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/94/51/af/c490c0644686613.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c490c0644686613) (http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/ab/0c/f3/5cfc3c644688233.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5cfc3c644688233) (http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/f0/5a/ca/aa7d73644692093.jpg) (http://www.imagebam.com/image/aa7d73644692093)
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Wayne49 on Thu, 9 Nov 2017, 11:01
Plenty of good vibes coming from people who saw the screening of this film. I think for the first time since they started building this DC universe, I feel at least hopeful that something good will come from this. Fingers crossed that the new inserts and story adjustments have done the trick here and we have product that everyone can champion. It would be fun to embrace this film. If nothing else, I like the fact it's not so dark. No, I'm not a big fan of how Barry Allen is playing here (and note he will be just Barry in the film - no Flash reference yet), but like others have speculated, maybe that will be a growth cycle that sees him through to a satisfying ending. I hope so. I love the Flash.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: riddler on Thu, 9 Nov 2017, 21:25
Quote from: Wayne49 on Thu,  9 Nov  2017, 11:01
No, I'm not a big fan of how Barry Allen is playing here (and note he will be just Barry in the film - no Flash reference yet), but like others have speculated, maybe that will be a growth cycle that sees him through to a satisfying ending. I hope so. I love the Flash.

I picked up on that from the first trailer on how Bruce and Diana introduced the other three
"Arthur Curry- the Aquaman"
"Victor Stone. He's a Cyborg"
"Barry Allen"

Though one aspect I'm a little confused on: in at least one of the trailers, Barry states he's never done battle but in his Suicide Squad cameo he stops Captain Boomerang. And assuming Superman does return in JL, that would imply that Suicide Squad does indeed take place between BvS and JL
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Thu, 9 Nov 2017, 22:11
He simply...pushed Captain Cold, and then ran away.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 00:49
Quote from: Wayne49 on Thu,  9 Nov  2017, 11:01
Plenty of good vibes coming from people who saw the screening of this film. I think for the first time since they started building this DC universe, I feel at least hopeful that something good will come from this.
I'm happy to hear that. It's not surprising to see the cast members throw BvS under the bus - Cavill said BvS was a "niche". Even though I think BvS is a masterpiece...this is business. Reality is the film got savaged by dumb critics, and the studio shot themselves in the foot by not release the ultimate edition in the first place. This is 1992 all over again. Like Batman Returns, we will likely never see something like BvS for a long time, with the tone lightening up in a way similar to Batman Forever...which still had elements of darkness. Not necessarily a complaint, but an observation.

Quote from: Travesty on Thu,  9 Nov  2017, 22:11
He simply...pushed Captain Cold, and then ran away.
Yep. Works for me. Running into somebody (which is what SS shows) isn't combat. The guy doesn't know how to punch and kick his way through enemies. The CCTV footage in BvS shows he uses his speed to push people and that's it.

Quote from: riddler on Thu,  9 Nov  2017, 21:25
And assuming Superman does return in JL, that would imply that Suicide Squad does indeed take place between BvS and JL
When was that ever up for debate?

They talk about Superman's death in the film - it's the reason why they establish the Squad. We see a man selling Superman memoriam t-shirts. The post-credit scene has Bruce talking to Waller, getting ready to locate the League members.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Dagenspear on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 06:52
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 10 Nov  2017, 00:49I'm happy to hear that. It's not surprising to see the cast members throw BvS under the bus - Cavill said BvS was a "niche". Even though I think BvS is a masterpiece...this is business. Reality is the film got savaged by dumb critics, and the studio shot themselves in the foot by not release the ultimate edition in the first place. This is 1992 all over again. Like Batman Returns, we will likely never see something like BvS for a long time, with the tone lightening up in a way similar to Batman Forever...which still had elements of darkness. Not necessarily a complaint, but an observation.
Except Batman Returns was good. These statements about how dumb people are who criticize this movie are silly. I heard somebody say this about Avengers: Age Of Ultron once: If your superhero movie needs to be 3 hours to be good, the movie isn't good in general, essentially, I think. It's as true for that as it is for this. Not that AOU or BvS were good with 3 hour cuts regardless. The movie needed to cut out the needless nonsense, not add excuses. As for this movie, we'll see, the trailers are cool, but then again the trailer for MOS made me tear up, the BvS trailer got me hyped and the SS one got me excited and the onyl trailer I didn't like was WW, which was the better movie of them all, so it's still up in the air. Have a very great day!

God bless you all!
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 09:05
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Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Wayne49 on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 12:53
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Fri, 10 Nov  2017, 00:49

I'm happy to hear that. It's not surprising to see the cast members throw BvS under the bus - Cavill said BvS was a "niche". Even though I think BvS is a masterpiece...this is business. Reality is the film got savaged by dumb critics, and the studio shot themselves in the foot by not release the ultimate edition in the first place. This is 1992 all over again. Like Batman Returns, we will likely never see something like BvS for a long time, with the tone lightening up in a way similar to Batman Forever...which still had elements of darkness. Not necessarily a complaint, but an observation.

I think that pretty well sums it up. And I completely get why some really like BVS. I understand the film is a kind of "coming of age" for Batman where he has to face his demons or be destroyed by them. But, FOR ME, it just blurred the lines a bit more than I like to see with Batman in terms of his general state of mind and the films insistence in keeping the mood incredibly grim. It felt like Rob Zombie had invaded the DC Universe. I could see Batman, but I could never feel him. For me, he was pushed too far to the edge to come back so quickly at the end. But its a theme that has been examined extensively in graphic novels and comics, so I completely understand why some really liked that departure. It just wasn't for me.

It's nice to see optimism returning to the brand. At least that's what the trailers are pushing. I just hope they do evolve Barry into a more contained and assured hero near the end. His story responsibilities (from the trailers) seem to feel more like comic relief than real character evolution. If I'm being honest, he really seems to be getting the Peter Parker treatment as that character is stylized by Marvel right now. He's got all this ability and intelligence but no direction. So Bruce Wayne plays that Stark role of being his mentor and grooming him to the finer aspects of being a hero. At least that is the vibe I get from the trailers.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 16:29
We're about to get the social media embargo lifted in about an hour, so you'll start to hear from critics. The actual review embargo is still set for Tuesday, but we'll start to hear reactions soon.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: Travesty on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 17:22
It seems to be getting positive reactions. Granted, it's still early, but so far, so good.


Here are some tweets:

@Mike Rougeau:
Wonder Woman is wonderful, Aquaman is surprisingly cool, Flash is hilarious, Batman is drunk, the story is coherent, and it's all surprisingly funny. It's not perfect, but really enjoyable!

@ErikDavis:
I think if you are going to a #JusticeLeague movie to see all your favorite DC heroes rocking their skills & being the badasses you love, then you will get plenty of that. Lots of action. Lots of superheroes being superheroes.

@Terri Schwartz:
I am genuinely happy to report #JusticeLeague is a lot of fun. It's not perfect and has its problems, but does the job of making you care about these characters as a team by its end. It's also VERY funny, in lots of unexpected ways.

@_Winter_wind
Justice League is my fave film followed by Mos. You v much feel @ZackSnyder hand, vibe. It's absolutely joyful. You'll love it and I say it again Ezra Miller is a delight

@MikeKalinowski
They did it???? Justice League is wonderful. Heartfelt, funny, but with high stakes and consequences. They address and fix many peoples issues with BvS, but in ways it helps the story and characters. So many surprises you all have no idea about.

@markhughesfilms
#JusticeLeague was good & very fun. It's going to be popular w/audiences, not only fans but mainstream viewers & families.

@DCrowsNest
Unlike that movie, the heroes are genuinely likable and seeing them interact is a joy. The entire #JusticeLeague cast is on point, with Affleck really growing much more comfortable in the cowl this time.

@Paul Shirey:
#JusticeLeague is a fun, bumpy ride that succeeds in character, but fails in narrative. It's a mixed bag of execution that's saved by the actors, who rise above the shortcomings to deliver an engaging, funny and hopeful, yet flawed, entry to the DCEU.

@Chris Sylvia:
#JusticeLeague is a blast from start to finish. Pure visual comic book fun

@Aaron Sagers:
SO I saw #JusticeLeague -twice. Still under embargo, but: This is a fun superhero flick. Funny but still hero adventure. Reminds me of JL Unlimited ep. Likable interaction amongst recognizable heroes. There is a villain problem (no worse than Marvel's)
And yeah, I really liked #Aquaman in this (didn't expect to). Enjoyed Affleck's #Batman. Of course Gal's #WonderWoman is great, and Ezra's #TheFlash is a winner. I'm a fan. And I like messages of hope. I'll see it a third time #JusticeLeague -

@arcticninjapaul
#JusticeLeague is a fun, bumpy ride that succeeds in character, but fails in narrative. It's a mixed bag of execution that's saved by the actors, who rise above the shortcomings to deliver an engaging, funny and hopeful, yet flawed, entry to the DCEU. Oh, and yes, The Flash steals the movie @joblocom

@GermainLussier
JUSTICE LEAGUE! It's okay. Narratively it's a mess, the stakes don't work & the villain isn't great. HOWEVER, the heroes ARE great, it's funny, & there's some surprisingly effective character work. I didn't love it, but there are enough good pieces to excite me for the future.

@KevinMcCarthyTV
Bottom line: JUSTICE LEAGUE is awesome!
ZACK SNYDER's film is filled with so many moments that had me geeking out and crying nerd tears. When an action scene/hero moment hits, the film is firing on all cylinders.
Still love Affleck's BATMAN. My fav Batman actor since Keaton.

@ErikDavis
#JusticeLeague is better than BvS and #SuicideSquad - it's lean, mean & packed w/ superhero action. I dug most of its lighter moments & I think it has one of the best action sequences ever in a DCEU movie. And of course Wonder Woman steals the show.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Joker on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 20:23

Batman & Robin inspired JL poster

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DC Rebirth in DCEU style

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& last but not least

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Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Dark Knight on Fri, 10 Nov 2017, 21:47
Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 10 Nov  2017, 17:22
It seems to be getting positive reactions. Granted, it's still early, but so far, so good.
Thanks for collating these reactions. They're basically a dream come true for DC fans. The fact WB made such a big deal about the tone being more fun meant they weren't going to drop the ball on that front.
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 14 Nov 2017, 12:51
So, the ever worthless Rotten Tomatoes is delaying the aggregate score for JL, and even appeared to have a countdown for when the score will be revealed.

Source: https://screenrant.com/justice-league-rotten-tomatoes-score-delayed/

I occur these sentiments from somebody who is a DCEU detractor, ironically:

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This is very, very worrying and sets a dangerous precedent. Rotten Tomatoes is an aggregator - this sees them buy into the misread hype around their Tomatometer and try and become an actual critical outlet themselves.  :(
https://twitter.com/ADLeadbeater/status/930229943283351553

Quote from: ADLeadbeater
Quote from: Rotten Tomatoes
Fans vs Critics - who do you side with when it comes to #BatmanVSuperman
Can you f***ing not? You've already damaged film discourse, now you're trying to actually foster the divide?

https://twitter.com/ADLeadbeater/status/930104663076167681
Title: Re: Justice League Promotion
Post by: ObserveCreativeSoul on Wed, 15 Nov 2017, 11:04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uD42ToLHwE

Saw #JusticeLeague yesterday, here's my special 'THE JOKER' review (no spoilers; featuring JARED LETO!). #JaredLeto #Joker #NoSpoilers

You can ask me anything you want.